Mario to the portal

Cocky Hobbit

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If we are going to take away the big plays, take away the negative and zero yard plays when he had absolutely no blocking. With any blocking at all, he has 1000+ yards easily.
It amazes me that no one else realizes this. His body probably aged 4 years running behind our mighty "Wall of Jello".
 
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Tngamecock

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I know people are upset but 1) It took forever for our coaches to realize he was the only legit running back we had; 2) we almost got him killed by absolutely giving him no running lanes; 3) we pulled him in critical moments when we needed hard yards or touchdowns -- in favor of backs that averaged 2 yards a carry; 4) we pushed him to play wh we n he was hurt. Also, if Raheem is coming then his carries would drop significantly. Also -- did GT lowball him in the NIL?
He by his own admission didn’t realize how much he needed to step up. Early on treated it like D2 and wasn’t blocking as well and didn’t know all the plays. He had a chance to be good with an off season of big time cond and diet.

But, he is replaceable. Many of our transfers I feel left with encouragement. Only ones who didn’t were likely Blake, Anderson, Wells and Jeter.
 

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He by his own admission didn’t realize how much he needed to step up. Early on treated it like D2 and wasn’t blocking as well and didn’t know all the plays. He had a chance to be good with an off season of big time cond and diet.

But, he is replaceable. Many of our transfers I feel left with encouragement. Only ones who didn’t were likely Blake, Anderson, Wells and Jeter.
Agree with your list of four. Unfortunately it's our three of our best skill players.
 

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Agree with your list of four. Unfortunately it's our three of our best skill players.
Wells gave us nothing this year. Easy to replace nothing. Blake gained a whopping 178 yards In receiving…..easy to replace. We get Sheppard from AK, immediate RB upgrade.

I will sleep fine tonight
 

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Wells gave us nothing this year. Easy to replace nothing. Blake gained a whopping 178 yards In receiving…..easy to replace. We get Sheppard from AK, immediate RB upgrade.

I will sleep fine tonight
You only named one of the three in which I was referring.
 

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This is the gratitude you get for giving a Div II guy a chance to play big time football! He $hits on ya and looks for the bigger better deal! Loyalty is non-existent and has made me hate college football just as much as I do pro football!
 

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This is the gratitude you get for giving a Div II guy a chance to play big time football! He $hits on ya and looks for the bigger better deal! Loyalty is non-existent and has made me hate college football just as much as I do pro football!
Quit
I am not debating you about anything…..just stating where we are. Feel free to add who I missed.
I am not suggesting that you are debating me. I was simply suggesting that Jeter, Anderson and Juice were our best skill players. You did bring up a good point about Juice.
 

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If we are going to take away the big plays, take away the negative and zero yard plays when he had absolutely no blocking. With any blocking at all, he has 1000+ yards easily.
My guess is if you took away the 4 worst runs as well it wouldn’t change much. I agree with you. Was just surprised to see that stat. Felt like he was more productive than that.
 
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There’s no way he’s leaving for big NIL money.
107.5 confirmed this morning that this is 100% around NIL. He is negotiating with our team. He hasn't hit the portal yet but plans to leave for bigger $$'s if we can't increase our offer.
 
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107.5 confirmed this morning that this is 100% around NIL. He is negotiating with our team. He hasn't hit the portal yet but plans to leave for bigger $$'s if we can't increase our offer.

Nah, dude's not a competitor. I don't want to send players out there who are afraid to play. Better off he leave.
 

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Nah, dude's not a competitor. I don't want to send players out there who are afraid to play. Better off he leave.
So it’s not possible at all he’s trying to get paid as much as he can? Like 100% of this board would do, or has done.
 

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Nah, dude's not a competitor. I don't want to send players out there who are afraid to play. Better off he leave.
He played every snap he was asked to play and played with a very probable concussion, yet he's afraid to play? Where do you come up with this stuff?
 

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So it’s not possible at all he’s trying to get paid as much as he can? Like 100% of this board would do, or has done.
I'm sure he is. If it's communicated properly with the coaches it's shouldn't be a problem. The coaches have the option of meeting his demands or finding a replacement that's as good or potentially better. No guarantee the spot will be available if the player can't find a better opportunity. It's a gamble. He has a child on the way. Who can fault a man for trying to provide for his kids. Not me.
 

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I'm sure he is. If it's communicated properly with the coaches it's shouldn't be a problem. The coaches have the option of meeting his demands or finding a replacement that's as good or potentially better. No guarantee the spot will be available if the player can't find better opportunity. It's a gamble. He has a child on the way. Who can fault a man for trying to provide for his kids. Not me.
100%!

Who among us has never lied to an employer about being on another job interview? Who among us has never taken another offer to our employer and told him you need a raise or you’re leaving? Who among us retired from the same place they began working out of school? My guess is nobody on this board meets this criteria. But we demand 18-23 year old young men do it? Some of you need to get over yourselves.
 

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So it’s not possible at all he’s trying to get paid as much as he can? Like 100% of this board would do, or has done.

Nope.

If he's that stupid, I'd tell him "good luck, thanks for your contribution this year, clear out of the facility."

His NIL value will not be THAT high. It's not like he's gonna be getting hundreds of thousands more to go somewhere else.

And the analogy to taking a higher paying job is so seriously flawed, I don't know why anyone with a brain ever uses it. It's one thing to take a higher paying job that I may work out for 5, 10, 15 years or more. That works out to be a lot of money. In no way whatsoever is that comparable to a one-year NIL deal. It's a laughable comparison.

All that being undeniably true, that's where this NIL stuff is so crazy. It's not the pros where a guy leaves one team to go somewhere else for several million more dollars. You have guys quitting on their teams to go somewhere for $15,000 or $20,000 more dollars. NIL preys on these kids who have no perspective. It ain't like Mario gonna be soaking in a gold-plated jacuzzi, sipping on Cristal with the kind of NIL money he's in line for.
 

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Nope.

If he's that stupid, I'd tell him "good luck, thanks for your contribution this year, clear out of the facility."

His NIL value will not be THAT high. It's not like he's gonna be getting hundreds of thousands more to go somewhere else.

And the analogy to taking a higher paying job is so seriously flawed, I don't know why anyone with a brain ever uses it. It's one thing to take a higher paying job that I may work out for 5, 10, 15 years or more. That works out to be a lot of money. In no way whatsoever is that comparable to a one-year NIL deal. It's a laughable comparison.

All that being undeniably true, that's where this NIL stuff is so crazy. It's not the pros where a guy leaves one team to go somewhere else for several million more dollars. You have guys quitting on their teams to go somewhere for $15,000 or $20,000 more dollars. NIL preys on these kids who have no perspective. It ain't like Mario gonna be soaking in a gold-plated jacuzzi, sipping on Cristal with the kind of NIL money he's in line for.
Being the top RB at Carolina this year was really a "tallest pygmy in the jungle" situation. Anderson was the best on the team but that isn't saying a lot. I say let him go and don't worry about it. How much worse can ANY other actual FBS RB be? I think Anderson has an inflated sense of his worth because he has been surrounded by almost no competition at Carolina. The whole team only has 1021 rushing yards and Anderson and Rattler combined for 240 of 369 rushes and 811 of the total rushing yards. Anderson also has a whopping 3 tds. I don't see any big name, big money programs beating down his door.

Anderson should have one more year of eligibility if my calculations are correct. What big money program is going to pay him much to come in? I can see him being one of the players who goes in the portal and ends up having to step down to an FCS program and get little or nothing in NIL money. It appears to me he is not as much ungrateful or disloyal as he is stupid.
 
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Being the top RB at Carolina this year was really a "tallest pygmy in the jungle" situation. Anderson was the best on the team but that isn't saying a lot. I say let him go and don't worry about it. How much worse can ANY other actual FBS RB be? I think Anderson has an inflated sense of his worth because he has been surrounded by almost no competition at Carolina. The whole team only has 1021 rushing yards and Anderson and Rattler combined for 240 of 369 rushes and 811 of the total rushing yards. Anderson also has a whopping 3 tds. I don't see any big name, big money programs beating down his door.

Anderson should have one more year of eligibility if my calculations are correct. What big money program is going to pay him much to come in? I can see him being one of the players who goes in the portal and ends up having to step down to an FCS program and get little or nothing in NIL money. It appears to me he is not as much ungrateful or disloyal as he is stupid.
Y’all are underestimating the value of a home run hitter. His explosiveness alone makes him valuable. His relatively low ypc when taking out the big plays can be explained as poor OL play. The kid has value. I don’t blame him for wanting to get as much as he can. We’ve had plenty of good RBs that never made it to the NFL. If he can get a one time $30k bump, for a college student, that’s a crap ton.
 
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The obvious elephant in the room that nobody's talking about: Anderson is not even officially in the portal yet, so how can he have any idea about NIL value from other schools?
 

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The obvious elephant in the room that nobody's talking about: Anderson is not even officially in the portal yet, so how can he have any idea about NIL value from other schools?
He is now. Apparently he got an agent involved that’s trying to shop him around. Damn shame.
 

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Life changing to him may not be life changing to you. He could very easily be getting a couple hundred grand more than we are offering. I'm sure he considers this life changing and I would also as a college player.
He won’t get anywhere near that much.
 

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Nope.

If he's that stupid, I'd tell him "good luck, thanks for your contribution this year, clear out of the facility."

His NIL value will not be THAT high. It's not like he's gonna be getting hundreds of thousands more to go somewhere else.

And the analogy to taking a higher paying job is so seriously flawed, I don't know why anyone with a brain ever uses it. It's one thing to take a higher paying job that I may work out for 5, 10, 15 years or more. That works out to be a lot of money. In no way whatsoever is that comparable to a one-year NIL deal. It's a laughable comparison.

All that being undeniably true, that's where this NIL stuff is so crazy. It's not the pros where a guy leaves one team to go somewhere else for several million more dollars. You have guys quitting on their teams to go somewhere for $15,000 or $20,000 more dollars. NIL preys on these kids who have no perspective. It ain't like Mario gonna be soaking in a gold-plated jacuzzi, sipping on Cristal with the kind of NIL money he's in line for.
So I take it you know how much we offered? Apparently we DOUBLED his first deal and it wasn’t enough to keep him out of the portal. Even if it’s $50k, this kid may never sniff the NFL. Starting a family with a baby on the way, with an extra $50k in the bank would have been life changing for a young me!
 

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Stanley Roberts says "hello"
Roberts was set to become a Gamecock then at the 11th hour changed his mind to LSU. He thought the grass was greener. He would've been set for life in South Carolina. Now the last I heard or read, he was living in a small apt in Baton Rouge BROKE...He's embarrassed to come back to South Carolina....

If he could turn back the clock, I'm willing to bet he would've been a Gamecock...Anderson may find greener pastures but he will be a traitor to the very program that took a chance on him...

Xavier McDaniel and Tyrone Corbin were not recruited by Bill Foster. Kevin Garnett has stated many times that if he had gone to college, it would've been with the Gamecocks...
 

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What is laughable is thinking Mario would receive several hundred K in NIL from any school. Listening to people like you will cause him to have to, as Kiffen once said, "pump gas for a living".
You are sorely mistaken and blinded by garnet glasses.
 

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This is the gratitude you get for giving a Div II guy a chance to play big time football! He $hits on ya and looks for the bigger better deal! Loyalty is non-existent and has made me hate college football just as much as I do pro football!
I don’t blame someone like him who likely never makes it to the nfl but could be a very good college RB. Get the money while you can young man you have to think of it like a business for them.
 

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Nope.

If he's that stupid, I'd tell him "good luck, thanks for your contribution this year, clear out of the facility."

His NIL value will not be THAT high. It's not like he's gonna be getting hundreds of thousands more to go somewhere else.

And the analogy to taking a higher paying job is so seriously flawed, I don't know why anyone with a brain ever uses it. It's one thing to take a higher paying job that I may work out for 5, 10, 15 years or more. That works out to be a lot of money. In no way whatsoever is that comparable to a one-year NIL deal. It's a laughable comparison.

All that being undeniably true, that's where this NIL stuff is so crazy. It's not the pros where a guy leaves one team to go somewhere else for several million more dollars. You have guys quitting on their teams to go somewhere for $15,000 or $20,000 more dollars. NIL preys on these kids who have no perspective. It ain't like Mario gonna be soaking in a gold-plated jacuzzi, sipping on Cristal with the kind of NIL money he's in line for.
I’ll bet you it’s way more than 15-20k more.