Marshawn Lloyd? Any intel?
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Here is what I don’t get about this thread. First, we are mad he is leaving. We make personal attacks on his character. Then we decide that he wasn’t that great anyhow. I just don’t understand the rationale sometimes.
My point is that if you feel he wasn’t that great anyhow, why would you want him here? If you think he lacks character why would you want him here? If I thought he were either of those I’d been overjoyed he left.
I don’t like the way he left; sneakily. Poor judgement in his part. For me though, I don’t think he was a feature back (other than possibly 2016, he would not be the starter for any team we had since maybe 2006). I do think he could help this team tremendously as a second back (if we had a solid #1). That is why I hated to see him go.
My point is that if you feel he wasn’t that great anyhow, why would you want him here? If you think he lacks character why would you want him here? If I thought he were either of those I’d been overjoyed he left.
I don’t like the way he left; sneakily. Poor judgement in his part. For me though, I don’t think he was a feature back (other than possibly 2016, he would not be the starter for any team we had since maybe 2006). I do think he could help this team tremendously as a second back (if we had a solid #1). That is why I hated to see him go.
Maybe '05 (Mike Davis-25 was a TR FR). '06....no way he beats out Boyd. '08 or '09 maybe.
Marshawn seems a good open field runner, but breaking tackles & finding holes don't seem to be his strengths. Contrast that with the CU guy who finds yds that aren't there.
Sure, the initial reaction is visceral. Once you cool off and look at the facts, you realize it’s not a tremendous loss. It’s not complicated.
Isn't that pretty much the norm for fan reactions? Initial displeasure, followed by a form of "we didn't need him anyway"?
He fits in because he can’t see holes….he won’t stand out unless he gets behind a UGA style line. but my 10 year old would gain yards behind that crew
Is that a statement about great defense or an indictment of some of the worst offenses you will see in college?
That’s a question that can always be asked. But in this case, it would still point to the fact that Lloyd could have a more difficult time running the ball being on an atrocious offense…if that is indeed the case.
Llyod isn’t going there to stand out. He’s going for the $$. Though last night I read he’s having second thoughts and considering returning. No clue.
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Phil Kornblutt reported on Sportstalk last night that a reporter in the Washington D.C. area reported that Marshon Lloyd wanted to go to Maryland and that Maryland told him that they were full and would not accept his transfer to Maryland. Phil also reported that in the rumor mill that Marshon may want to come back to USC. Stay tuned to see what happens. Also Roderick has not received any power 5 offers only from smaller schools. Who knows how this will end up.
Wonder how this might have impacted Tree? Didnt they go to the same high school? And, if so, wonder how much his commitment impacts him ending up back here?
That line blocking we have given him, would make me want to transfer too!
I guess we are just used to Kevin Harris who led the SEC in rushing on a 2 win team. Maybe we expected too much of him.
It is also not that simple. The overwhelming majority of us are grown men and women. I’m sure there are still high school and middle school kids that may get on here and post.
I work with kids for a living. The amount of issues that these types of reactions cause (when about people or situations in things that truly matter in life) is tremendous. Part of growing up is learning when and how to express your thoughts.
Understand, I am not criticizing your feelings about players leaving. You are entitled to you thoughts and opinions. To a point, I agree with you. I don’t like the setup anymore than you do. I don’t like it that these kids just pick up and leave on a whim. I’m sure some have legit reasons, some don’t. CFB right now is turning into a shell I what we all enjoy.
90% positive that Lloyd will return, especially since Tree recommitted and signed this morning. They are good friends. Lloyd is a mentor to him.
You gotta see the field. It's amazing that lesser talented guys can do this and make yds.
Marshawn is still a threat out in space.
Truth is Carolina has been getting great press and ended the season on a high note. All the talking heads had the Vols blowing us out and the taters beating us really bad to show why they should be in the playoffs … however we whupped them both. Staying home and helping us beat Notre Dame would have given him much more attention and tv time than freakin Maryland. He made a choice and scrubbed everything Carolina from his Twitter profile even before sending an official announcement. I have no hate for him or even hard feelings as he has to do whatever is best for him. Having said that, his time here is over and he should move on to whoever picks him up. Everyone still home or coming home should be given a chance to play.
Not sure there is a spot held for him. Look at the numbers... there may not be a spot left after this week.
Yep, plus we just got better at RB with signing Braswell. Tough kid from Georgia, that probably will be available on game days!
I would take him back! Dynamic when he’s healthy we open some running room. No he won’t run over people like Kevin did but he can jump over them. As long as he didn’t trash us I would love to have him back.
Not my program, but I’d take back any player that played out the season and entered the portal after the season ended… if I thought it’d help. I’d have difficulty taking one back that didn’t. I’d be afraid it would open the door for others to do the same.
I probably wouldnt take him back. It has nothing to do with him, but more to do with the guys I have on the team.
I may not have the whole story, so I'll say if bridges were burnt, I'm teaching the guys the risks involved in burning a bridge. Secondly, I'm teaching them on the pitfalls of the portal itself. I think the future of my program will benift more from not taking him than doing so if I can get guys to pause before jumping. You go in there at your own risk so dont count on me to bail you out if things go south. We are a team and we look out for each other. Once you decide you are not a member... best of luck to you, we are moving on. We'll be fine without you
I may not have the whole story, so I'll say if bridges were burnt, I'm teaching the guys the risks involved in burning a bridge. Secondly, I'm teaching them on the pitfalls of the portal itself. I think the future of my program will benift more from not taking him than doing so if I can get guys to pause before jumping. You go in there at your own risk so dont count on me to bail you out if things go south. We are a team and we look out for each other. Once you decide you are not a member... best of luck to you, we are moving on. We'll be fine without you
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Lloyd was a 5 Star High School All-American Number 33 player in the Top 100 regardless of Position.
I was excited when he signed with Us.
It was Unfortunate He tore his ACL. It has held him back. Was looking forward to seeing that 5 Star Talent this Season.
He showed Some bursts of it this past Season. I was disappointed when he entered the portal
He just bailed on his team. He should be going through Bowl prep and instead he’s in the portal finding out he may not have a place to go.
At this point, I’m not sure it would be a good move bringing him back into this locker room with him basically just sitting out the bowl game at this point. Not sure he’s worth the risk of what that might cause. I am not saying I know there are hard feelings. But these things don’t typically work out. Even Tom Brady, possibly the greatest teammate of all time, is rumored to be experiencing some of this because he tried to bail on Tampa for Miami.
No..that they are so irrelevant for so long….no one caresThat you forgot Maryland switched conferences?
I would LOVE if he decided he wanted to come back and Shane said “sorry, we’ve moved on.” That’s the attitudes we need to take here. Playing here is a privilege.
This is true. For the players going to the nfl… good luck. Thanks for you contribution. Forever to thee.
If you transfer out….good luck and don’t let the door hit you. If you want to come back, we all make mistakes so if the team wants you back, most fans will welcome you back most likely.
But like Fried said above, missing the bowl while testing the waters doesn’t sit well.
For those who defend players putting their name in the portal to see if they have other options, how do you think players will take if schools said they were going to wait on renewing their scholarship to see if they had better options? I’m guessing the evaluating other opportunities rationale would certainly not be justifiable.
Why would he sit out the bowl? Did we suddenly install a completely new playbook that he wouldn't know?
As far the locker room... you have no clue what that locker room is like. With the number of guys that we've lost, I'd bet you my Bowl tickets that the majority of the players would more than welcome him back.
If he decides to stay... you play him. He missed many practices when he was injure and when he got back in the game, he gave it his all. I'd love to have him back on the team and I'll be in the stands cheering for him.
Well, if he comes back he’s not preparing. We’re practicing and he’s not. He’s in the portal so I’m not sure what all that means. But I highly doubt he’d play. Could be wrong, but I highly doubt Lloyd is playing in this bowl game even if he comes back. I don’t even think that’s on the table at this point.
As far as me not knowing what that locker room is like, didn’t I say that in my post, admitting I don’t know if there are hard feelings? Of course you don’t know what that locker room is like either. What I do know is that Kai Kroeger posted that “All we need is all we got”. I know that Pup Howard, who isn’t there yet, is getting publicity for saying he wanted players that would die for the university. I don’t think it’s any secret that some of these players weren’t thrilled with guys bailing on this team. How would they welcome him back? I don’t know. Which I admitted as much. You say the majority of players would welcome him back. I’d agree. But even that language (majority) hints that a fraction wouldn’t and that’s a divide you don’t want as a team.
I’d guarantee you there are players who aren’t happy about this situation. Enough to be a major issue or to move on from? These are the kinds of things that causes issues in a locker room. Not sure Lloyd’s production is worth that risk. He’s replaceable. Hell, we played our best football with him out (Tennessee) of a non-factor (Clemson).
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Beamer didn't even want to discuss it when he talked today, said he was gonna talk about players that are on the team now and Lloyd had been off the team a couple of weeks; he seemed rather irritated and his tone led me to believe that it was aimed at Lloyd. But just my impression of the way he said it, who knows.
Just guessing. Looking at the tea leaves in my humble opinion it may be best for Marshon to move on to another school since Maryland told him they were full and it seems like Beamer is not interested in bringing him back. That is my humble opinion.
Beamer won't take him back on the team. Bridges were irrevocably burnt. Phone calls weren't returned.