Can't believe no one is comparing this to the Scottie Scheffler arrest a few months ago. He was also arriving at a sports venue. He allegedly disobeyed an officers direction, was pulled from the car, handcuffed, taken in and booked complete with mug shot and jailed. Then, I guess someone decided to release him so he could compete. Can't believe one side or the other isn't comparing his treatment to Tyreek's.
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The way they walked up to the car knocking on the window, it did not appear they were thinking about him having a gun. When that happens they do not walk up to the car and instead get the suspect to get out facing away from them, hands up and walk backwards to them.
If you get pulled over for a ticket, you need to show a valid license & registration. You are not required to talk. You are not required to roll down your window. And you are not required to "obey" any order which is not reasonable based on the reason for the traffic stop. Police officers are not your masters. There is no law which says you must do whatever they say.
That said, Hill's actions did encourage the over-reactions from the police officers. However, his actions were legal (except for speeding, obviously). It was the police officers who escalated the situation after feeling disrespected.
That said, Hill's actions did encourage the over-reactions from the police officers. However, his actions were legal (except for speeding, obviously). It was the police officers who escalated the situation after feeling disrespected.
This is what I came to say after watching the body cam footage. Hill clearly should have handled the interaction better - not rolling the window down, using antagonistic language - but that doesn't justify getting forcibly yanked out of the car, thrown on the pavement, and handcuffed.
Really good example all around of what not to do in a traffic stop.
Was going to go there- maybe the difference in the two stops had something to do with each person's response to and compliance with the officers' commands.
Nah, this was a case of bad ego (Tyreek Hill) vs bad ego (the officers). It wasn't about safety for the officers. It was about doing what they said. Which, Tyreek should have done, but that is how you get yourself in trouble as an officer. I have done training courses for officers in my area with regard to dealing with the public. With that said, these officers were dripping with ego and they are just asking to get themselves in trouble if it is not this time. If you look back at the video, Tyreek was even complying by stepping out of the car. They would not even give him a chance to get his feet on the ground. Then, grabbing a handcuffed guy around the neck. Come on man. Tyreek was an "xxx" like I said, but dudes were tripping.
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If they had known his record and violent history, they may have approached his vehicle with guns drawn.
Given his previous encounters with the law, he should have been very respectful to law enforcement.
He is an arrogant a--hole who has not learned from his mistakes.
Tyreek Hill is a violent POS, and got some humble pie served by cop. The cop will pay the price because idiots like Hill are worshipped now by leftist sports media. His high profile and minority status are a Gold Card to do WHATEVER he wants. And shame on his morally corrupt enabler Drew Rosenhaus for punching low on the police and elevating Hill to sainthood. Let’s post Tyreek’s rap sheet and see this scum for what he really is. I mean, who beats his pregnant girlfriend?? And you wonder why there’s a cultural schism in this country…
I wish this Law Enforcer could have pulled over Tyreek hill and see the interaction between the two
I the video, Hill stats over and over for the office not to tap on his window. How is law enforcement supposed to get his attention?
Assuming your probability is correct, that means every 100th person the cop pulls over has a loaded gun if the distribution is equal. Since the probability is spread over all stops, there is a chance there could be 5 people in a row who have a loaded gun. If I dealt with those odds at my job I would be very careful in how I handled every stop I made. Any stop that did not comply fully and willfully would immediately be suspected of being someone who is more likely to be in the 1%.
I suspect that stat is a lot higher than 1% in Florida. Approx. 10.5% of the state's population has a concealed carry permit and the state recognizes constitutional carry, to say nothing of those who carry illegally. To the extent officers make any assumptions at all in a traffic stop, I'm sure they err on the side of officer safety by assuming everyone has a gun.
Scottie Scheffler was handcuffed and booked into jail. Never once did he say anything negative about the arresting officer. Handled it like an adult and moved on from it. This guy was handcuffed released and played in the game.
I lived in Texas. There was probably slightly more than a 1% chance there wasn't a loaded gun in the car. I've been pulled over in other states with Texas tags on my car. They saw my tags and didn't even ask IF I had a gun. They just asked me where I had it.
I made up the number to prove a point... it could have been 1 out of 100, 1 out of 1000; whatever. There was a possibility of a gun. The officer needs to be able to see in the car and see who's in it. Period. There is no debate over that fact. Anyone debating that fact is baiting for a different argument.
I made up the 1% statistic to prove a point. At the time of the stop, the cop does not know who is in the car or what is in the car. Once the law breaking citizen did not roll down his window to comply with cops, it is on from there.
Just because someone has money and fame does not give them free reign on the highway. I don't know Florida law but I am sure if you are stopped for reckless driving you could be arrested for it...
Just because someone has money and fame does not give them free reign on the highway. I don't know Florida law but I am sure if you are stopped for reckless driving you could be arrested for it...
I'm sorry. I thought you were making the opposite point. My bad.
I re-read your post. I stopped reading after the 1% comment.Get unlimited access today.