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BftCocks09

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Following that logic, we might as well not show up at WB tomorrow following the 13-day layoff we've had since Sept. 30th. No way we can perform well enough to win.

So you’re comparing football and baseball? Am I reading this correctly?
 

Prestonyte

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So you’re comparing football and baseball? Am I reading this correctly?
I certainly am. Played both, plus basketball. Skill set is different, obviously, but a layoff is a layoff regardless of the sport. Of course, practice is what keeps you focused during layoffs and the Braves and Dodgers may not have worked properly to maintain focus during the layoff. Or, as was mentioned previously, streaks come and go all the time - the Yardcocks experienced it this past season. Blaming the layoff for poor play is not a valid excuse, just an excuse.
 

BftCocks09

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I certainly am. Played both, plus basketball. Skill set is different, obviously, but a layoff is a layoff regardless of the sport. Of course, practice is what keeps you focused during layoffs and the Braves and Dodgers may not have worked properly to maintain focus during the layoff. Or, as was mentioned previously, streaks come and go all the time - the Yardcocks experienced it this past season. Blaming the layoff for poor play is not a valid excuse, just an excuse.

Oh here we go again. Another world class athlete who has played the sport before. Wait for it…..so did I. But I’m certainly not naive enough to think that my experience is the same as professional baseball players who are tasked with keeping their timing sharp to hit 100 mph fastballs and 80 mph sweepers with over 14” of break. Are you kidding me dude? Get over yourself.

And once again, even those who didn’t play both know the physical demands are entirely different for each sport and layoffs have extremely different effects. It doesn’t take a world class athlete to figure that one out.
 

Prestonyte

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Oh here we go again. Another world class athlete who has played the sport before. Wait for it…..so did I. But I’m certainly not naive enough to think that my experience is the same as professional baseball players who are tasked with keeping their timing sharp to hit 100 mph fastballs and 80 mph sweepers with over 14” of break. Are you kidding me dude? Get over yourself.

And once again, even those who didn’t play both know the physical demands are entirely different for each sport and layoffs have extremely different effects. It doesn’t take a world class athlete to figure that one out.
You can blame the layoff. I'm blaming the athlete. Looks like they are going to have to figure it out - according to the Comish, it's here to stay for a while.
 

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Here’s the thing. I am not surprised at all that the Braves lost. That’s the nature of the MLB playoffs. Even the best teams lose. I am not even afraid to say that, in a short series, the Phillies truly could be a better team. I’m ok with all of that because of the parity in baseball.

What I’m not ok with feeling like the teams and fans got cheated by not being able to see not just the best team in baseball (purely from a record standpoint), but the best THREE teams in baseball at their very best when it mattered most. I HATE the Dodgers, but I still want to see them at their very best, especially in the playoffs. I mean isn’t that what makes sports so great? When the little guy conquers the giant? The problem is, given some outside factor (and I have no idea what else could be the contributing factor for all three top teams other than the week long break), there were no giants. For that, as fans I feel like we’re getting cheated across the board. We did not see all teams at their best because of something out of their control, plain and simple.
Understood. I did edit my post about the schedule of NL and AL on games 1 and 2. Day off was stupid for NL.
 

BftCocks09

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You can blame the layoff. I'm blaming the athlete. Looks like they are going to have to figure it out - according to the Comish, it's here to stay for a while.

Again, if it was just the Braves I would t be making this argument. But this was all 3 top teams. That’s not chance. And that’s not just on the athletes. If you’re not willing to concede that at all then we will just have to agree to disagree.
 

Prestonyte

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Again, if it was just the Braves I would t be making this argument. But this was all 3 top teams. That’s not chance. And that’s not just on the athletes. If you’re not willing to concede that at all then we will just have to agree to disagree.
So be it. We disagree.
It would be interesting to see if any of these 3 teams were swept in a series during the regular season, without a layoff.
 

BftCocks09

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So be it. We disagree.
It would be interesting to see if any of these 3 teams were swept in a series during the regular season, without a layoff.

Don’t be ridiculous. Of course they got swept. But not all at the same time and that’s the difference here you’re refusing to face. The probability of the top 3 teams all playing as poorly as they did at the exact same time with no outside factor as an influence is extremely low.
 

Prestonyte

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Don’t be ridiculous. Of course they got swept. But not all at the same time and that’s the difference here you’re refusing to face. The probability of the top 3 teams all playing as poorly as they did at the exact same time with no outside factor as an influence is extremely low.
Regular season = no pressure
Playoffs = pressure
Some teams perform better under pressure than others and they may not be regular season champs.
There are many factors other than layoffs which can influence performance and not necessarily the same one for each team. Focusing on the layoffs as the only factor for all 3 teams performing poorly is a convenient assumption with a high probability of coincidence.
 

Mic4usc

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MLB Comish says ''Give it some time''.
He’s garbage.
I was happy Houston got the week. It aligned the pitching order, their bats were still good enough.
Nothing will explain the Dodgers and Braves epic offense failure. One week off cannot shut down prolific offenses like Braves had. Dodgers same....
oh yes it can. They lost to the Oakland Athletics 3 out of 4 games coming off the All-Star break. The Astros have one the division series 7 straight years and are loaded with veteran players.

Sitting and resting is the worst thing you can do to hot bats. I’m not gonna say it was the sole cause for the loss bc the Phillies are absolutely loaded. But the sample size is building. The rest is hurting more than it’s helping.
 

BftCocks09

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Regular season = no pressure
Playoffs = pressure
Some teams perform better under pressure than others and they may not be regular season champs.
There are many factors other than layoffs which can influence performance and not necessarily the same one for each team. Focusing on the layoffs as the only factor for all 3 teams performing poorly is a convenient assumption with a high probability of coincidence.

You’re right. Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts are two guys who are known to underperform due to pressure. Say what you want, that it’s a “convenient assumption,” but at the same time your only explanation is that all the players on all three teams just happened to play bad at the same time. You’re not winning many arguments with that.
 

Mic4usc

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I still fail to understand how both Braves and Dodgers looked so bad. I really thought the Braves would win WS.
I did watch the games when Houston wasn't playing at same time. Baseball can be strange to predict. Best of 7 for all series is not automatically a fix for failures.
I will say I don't understand the schedule, game 1 then day off for game 2 in NL. That definitely benefited Philly.
The reg season and postseason are nothing alike. You pretty much either get lucky or you have the right combination of guys who just get hot. Harper and Alverez are probably the most elite playoff hitters in the game right now. That goes A LONG WAY. Add Castellanos to the list too. Acuna and Riley can be great but they were pressing the whole series.
 

Prestonyte

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You’re right. Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts are two guys who are known to underperform due to pressure. Say what you want, that it’s a “convenient assumption,” but at the same time your only explanation is that all the players on all three teams just happened to play bad at the same time. You’re not winning many arguments with that.
As I said, there are many other possible factors and maybe not the same one for each team.

Overconfidence? How about the assumption they all 3 thought - "all we have to do is show up to win, we are regular season champs you know"
Lack of focus?
Team dissention?
Lack of clutch hitting with RISP?
Lack of respect for the opponent? ''It's only one game, we can always come back next game'' and then it's too late.
Undisclosed injuries?
 

BftCocks09

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As I said, there are many other possible factors and maybe not the same one for each team.

Overconfidence? How about the assumption they all 3 thought - "all we have to do is show up to win, we are regular season champs you know"
Lack of focus?
Team dissention?
Lack of clutch hitting with RISP?
Lack of respect for the opponent? ''It's only one game, we can always come back next game'' and then it's too late.
Undisclosed injuries?

Ok.
 

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If you are truly the best team in baseball the week off shouldn't matter. Also didn't the braves scrimmage between series? It's not like they played 0 baseball the week off. No reason to lose except the moment was too big for them and harper owned them.
 

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For me it's not just a Braves issues. It's a MLB issue. MLB has had a popularity issue going on for a while now. That's why they're trying to shorten the game, entice stolen bases, etc...They're trying to make it more enjoyable for the average fan. That doesn't happen with your biggest names sitting on the couch in October. Two straight years, the two teams with the most star power are sitting at home after the NLDS. I don't know if 2 is a trend, but I don't think they want to develop a trend.