Moorhead on the State job...

OG Goat Holder

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He got fired for off the field stuff. Not wins and loses.
You really can't be serious. The trend was straight down. It was absolutely about wins and losses.

Cohen would have fired him after the Egg Bowl had nimrod not pulled his endzone stunt, and our leadership gotten emotional about it.

The fight gave us the ammunition to override the leadership. Moorhead would have gone 0-10 in 2020. If it had been a normal year, probably around 2-10 or 3-9.
 

BrunswickDawg

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Man, you guys sure love bringing up stuff that just pisses me off. So many frustrating games in those 2 years of football
Just to fire you up moor.....

How quickly we forget the real damage he did to the program: https://www.al.com/sports/2019/08/m...ion-vacated-wins-for-academic-misconduct.html

All 8 of those 2018 wins were vacated because Moorhead didn't keep his house in order

The full is list of penalties for the academic misconduct are as follows:
  • A fine of $5,000, plus 1% each of the football and men’s basketball budgets.
  • A reduction of two football scholarships during each of the 2020-21 and 2021-22 academic years.
  • A reduction of one men’s basketball scholarship during the 2020-21 academic year.
  • A reduction of four football official visits from the program’s four-year average of 40 visits during the 2019-20 academic year.
  • A reduction of two men’s basketball official visits from the program’s four-year average of 10 visits during the 2019-20 and 2020-21 rolling two-year period.
  • A prohibition of football unofficial visits during one home contest for the 2019-20, 2020-21 and 2021-22 academic years.
  • A prohibition of men’s basketball unofficial visits during two home contests for the 2019-20 and 2020-21 academic years.
  • A reduction of football evaluation days by two in the fall 2019 and 10 in spring 2020.
  • A reduction of men’s basketball recruiting-person days by six in the spring of 2020.
  • Three years of probation.
  • A vacation of records in which student-athletes competed while ineligible. The university must provide a written report containing the contests impacted to the NCAA media coordination and statistics staff within 45 days of the public decision release.
  • A disassociation of the former tutor.
  • All involved student-athletes must conduct one rules education session on the consequences of academic misconduct.
  • Participation in the National Association of Academic and Student-Athlete Development Professionals program review and Academic Integrity Assessment process.
  • A 10-year show-cause order for the former tutor. During that period, any NCAA member school employing her must restrict her from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
 

dawgman42

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Shouldn't this 17tard be a little more focused on the absolute backside mauling his team is about to receive on Saturday rather than pulling a Stuart Smalley on a podcast with some spare?
 

Mjoelner

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He didn't beat Ole Miss twice, Ole Piss beat themselves remember? What a 17ing idiot! That game was poorly coached and undisciplined and he was the reason for both of those!
Ole Miss Football GIF by CornDoggyLOL
Ole Miss would have boat-raced us that game if their idiot would have started Coral.
 
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TrueMaroonGrind

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Well it would have been at least 50 more yards of offense and 7 points if not for player execution.

Throat slash and dropped TD pass cost us the Iowa game. And Abrams busted an assignment on the long TD pass.

2019 debacle and horrible music city bowl.... 100% on Moorhead.
A pattern of poor behavior by your team is on the coach. He clearly wasn’t ready to run an SEC program and he was fired because the massively underachieved and allowed the team to act however they pleased.

It was a clear cut case of being in over your head. He was a bad coach. To pretend otherwise is foolishness.
 

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It's amazing how successful he was as offensive coordinator, and how bad he was 1 level above that, multiple times.
Life lesson : stay in your lane... as long as it's the right lane 90% of the time.
Some guys just aren't head coaches. Takes a different mindset and different manager skills. As an OC you can be more buddy buddy. His offense was way too slow with out talent. So not sure if he would be a good OC at our level of talent type schools. Just my thought like an Arkansas or South Carolina. He would be fine at LSU or Bama. Oregon and Penn State were also very well established schools and offenses he just came in and made some tweaks to what the head coaches ran

I also think he is a good nice dude just not ready or aware of the level scrutiny the SCE brings. He will do better
 
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Drebin

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Best defense ever, not Miami, not Alabama ?? Or better running qb than say Tebow or cam newton… not sure which is more 👀👀…Give me a shot of what you’re drinking
He's not wrong. That's probably the best defense we ever fielded here. Three first round picks. That defense gave up only a handful of TDs that year, and half of those were short fields after the chitty offense turned the ball over.
 

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I started to lose confidence in JoMo in the end zone seats at UK watching their DE blow up every play without us making one adjustment.

I totally lost all confidence at UT watching that bad team kick our ***.

it’s amazing how little we can perceive reality when OM is bad also.

If OM was the OM of today during those years JoMo doesn’t see year 2.
That was the most frustrating game. Of course we haven't done well at Kentucky in a while. we continue to not adjust well against them.
 

Drebin

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It’s a shame he wasn’t more competent on offense. Which was suppose to be his cup of tea. I generally liked him but he simply wasn’t a good hc.
I thought Moorhead was a cultural fit for us and he was really good in the community. It would've been great if it had worked out. It's just too bad that he turned out to be a really horrible football coach.
 

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He's not wrong. That's probably the best defense we ever fielded here. Three first round picks. That defense gave up only a handful of TDs that year, and half of those were short fields after the chitty offense turned the ball over.
one of the best defense here sure... ever... not hardly.
 

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This guy talked about pointing the thumb and not the finger for two years. Apparently he did not mean point the thumb at himself, he meant point it in a different way that doesn’t really work…. Which is a lot like his offense.
 
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It seems many &tate fans point to the program getting soft or undisciplined under Moorhead. I have no idea what went on at practice and off the field. It must have been bad for Cohen to pull the trigger that quick.

However Moorhead is right. His on the field results were good enough for &tate. People point to that 2018 season. However the Florida game and Iowa game were lost by players failing to execute.

Florida.... Gay dropped a sure pick 6. The WR drops a dime that Fitz layed in there for a TD.

Iowa. We stop Iowa early in the game to force 4th down. Gay throat slashes. Auto first down to extend the drive. They score their long TD. Again Fitz throws a TD pass to a Wr that hit WR in the chest.... deflected for an Int.
Who put us in position to allow a single play to decide the game against opponents we should have been able to beat fairly handily? The Kentucky game was enough for most. Then he seemed to "figure it out" when he finally played to our strengths on offense to beat Auburn like a drum. But, no, he ignored that and went back to his "offense". He was more worried about proving points than being a good coach. So now he's at Akron. He was gifted a HC job in the freaking SEC, and he turned it into a job at Akron. Hey, Joe - that says exactly what the entire industry thinks about your coaching abilities.
 

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His most amazing statistical game is Iowa. Held Iowa to less than 200 yards of total offense and negative yards rushing and still lost.

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And the most amazing part…. How do you score 27 points with 199 yards of total offense with negative rushing yards? Hell.. in the majestic 3-2 debacle.. State had 40 yards rushing.
 

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He would've lost the second one if not for Elijah Moore's stupidity. Think about that....
In hindsight we probably would’ve been better off losing that game given that it prolonged the inevitable for Moorhead but also lit a fire under OM to get rid of Luke. If OM wins that Egg Bowl, they don’t make a change and Kiffin is at Arkansas.
 

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It seems many &tate fans point to the program getting soft or undisciplined under Moorhead. I have no idea what went on at practice and off the field. It must have been bad for Cohen to pull the trigger that quick.

However Moorhead is right. His on the field results were good enough for &tate. People point to that 2018 season. However the Florida game and Iowa game were lost by players failing to execute.

Florida.... Gay dropped a sure pick 6. The WR drops a dime that Fitz layed in there for a TD.

Iowa. We stop Iowa early in the game to force 4th down. Gay throat slashes. Auto first down to extend the drive. They score their long TD. Again Fitz throws a TD pass to a Wr that hit WR in the chest.... deflected for an Int.
LOL
 
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johnson86-1

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It seems many &tate fans point to the program getting soft or undisciplined under Moorhead. I have no idea what went on at practice and off the field. It must have been bad for Cohen to pull the trigger that quick.

However Moorhead is right. His on the field results were good enough for &tate. People point to that 2018 season. However the Florida game and Iowa game were lost by players failing to execute.

Damn. Just our luck that the one head coach we have where the wife likes starkville and MSU enough to stick around and comment on sixpack for years after he was fired later also happened to be a ****** head coach.


Florida.... Gay dropped a sure pick 6. The WR drops a dime that Fitz layed in there for a TD.
Blaming losing on one of if not the best defenses we've ever had not scoring more points when the offense is shitastic, maybe this is Crooms. Did Mohead marry Crooms and that news somehow not make it to Sixpack?

Iowa. We stop Iowa early in the game to force 4th down. Gay throat slashes. Auto first down to extend the drive. They score their long TD. Again Fitz throws a TD pass to a Wr that hit WR in the chest.... deflected for an Int.

There are always mistakes made during games on both sides. It's not a testament to SloMo that our defense was good enough to keep it close despite his ****** coaching. It's a testament to how good our defense was. Yes, it would have been nice if hte defense had been flawless or if the offense had made one less mistake, but it would have been even nicer for the offense to just be competent. That's all we really needed for a 10 win season.
 

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Dude completely lost the locker room in an unprecedented way, wild wild wild. No respect from the players.

Let's all admit it, we thought he might be another Mullen type hire but he will always be a background coach and he will do well at that with the right players on the field.
 

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Damn. Just our luck that the one head coach we have where the wife likes starkville and MSU enough to stick around and comment on sixpack for years after he was fired later also happened to be a ****** head coach.



Blaming losing on one of if not the best defenses we've ever had not scoring more points when the offense is shitastic, maybe this is Crooms. Did Mohead marry Crooms and that news somehow not make it to Sixpack?



There are always mistakes made during games on both sides. It's not a testament to SloMo that our defense was good enough to keep it close despite his ****** coaching. It's a testament to how good our defense was. Yes, it would have been nice if hte defense had been flawless or if the offense had made one less mistake, but it would have been even nicer for the offense to just be competent. That's all we really needed for a 10 win season.
We all know 13 is Nellie Cohen
 
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The 2019 game against Auburn was one of the least ready to play teams you will ever see. We got delay of game on the very first play of the game. Typically the coaches script the entire first drive. Our team most likely knew the first play they were going to run before they even came out of the locker room and we still couldn't get the ball snapped. Then on 4th and 24 from our own 11, when the only call needed is "PUNT", we took another delay of game.

We were down 21-0 with 9 minutes left in the first quarter.
 

dogmatic001

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It's amazing how successful he was as offensive coordinator, and how bad he was 1 level above that, multiple times.
Life lesson : stay in your lane... as long as it's the right lane 90% of the time.

Some of y'all may be old enough to remember Watson Brown - he was a former Vandy HC, then was OC at State for a while working for Coach Sherrill in the Sleepy Robinson era. I always thought he was a brilliant strategist who could tinker-toy-build the best possible offense out of the parts and pieces on hand. If he could have stayed in his lane and then had a great recruiter go round him up players, there's no telling how far we could have gone.

Most coaches come in with one offense they want to run, then run it whether they have the players to do it or not. Watson Brown could take yours and beat his, or take his and beat yours. But he had to be a HC so most of y'all without gray hairs have never heard of him.
 
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