I think it's incredible that the entry price of watching Nick Saban continue to ruin college football is $148 per.
As someone who lives in another state, I get back to a couple of games a year. But, I have had season tickets for 30yrs. The worst thing about traveling to our games for someone like me is hotel costs. It is ridiculous and hurting our attendance.according to Sports Talk MS twitter. Why is this? Concessions, parking, etc are challenges that all major CFB programs have, but why are our fans not showing up? I dont say that as criticism but rather just a question..... Its as if we as a fanbase quit caring after JoeMo lost to Florida and Dan, and never have bounced back.
Most of our alums are living out of state and it is too expensive to stay in Starkville for a game.Our fans will find any reason not to go. Didn’t used to be this way. Not sure what changed
I was thinking about this in the stands Saturday. In my day the players weren’t on tv every week and that was about the only time you got to see them besides highlights from the coaches shows. It was like they were larger than life to an extent. Of course a lot of that has to do with being a kid but still a big dealBack in the day you either went to the game or listened to Mr. Jack on the radio. We were rarely on TV. I grew up going to as many games as possible so it’s just in my blood I guess. I do miss Jack though. He was like a hero to me.
So most of our alums moved out of state in the last 6 years? Because from 2010-2018 we would pack out DWS for a game like this weekend.Most of our alums are living out of state and it is too expensive to stay in Starkville for a game.
That’s patently falseMost of our alums are living out of state and it is too expensive to stay in Starkville for a game.
This is part of my point in my OP. It’s as if we just lost all interest during/after 2018 season.So most of our alums moved out of state in the last 6 years? Because from 2010-2018 we would pack out DWS for a game like this weekend.
Our offense has been boring since Mullen left. Not saying we’ve been bad, but just bland. We need a big win and a shot in the arm offensively.This is part of my point in my OP. It’s as if we just lost all interest during/after 2018 season.
Go look at our attendances from years and years ago, before we expanded the stadium. It sucked. The game where we beat Arkansas to basically clinch the West we only had about 32,000 people there. The only time we had consistently good crowds was when Mullen had us rolling because our fans were so thrilled to see some semblance of success after a decade of Sherrill’s final years and the Croom error. Small fanbase, rural school equals no sellouts.
College football is now a depressing sport .
^^^^^^^^ This. Me and the Devil family use to stay two nights at pretty much every home game. Now it’s 7K for 6 home games, and I can get a nice Caribbean vacation for that so it is not a hard choice.The worst thing about traveling to our games for someone like me is hotel costs. It is ridiculous and hurting our attendance.
I’m saying most new alums are moving out of state to get jobs. It has been happening for years. I did not say that correctly I’ll admit.That’s patently false
Squandered 2018 season. 2019 meh nobody like jomo and his brand of football. 2020 Covid and and other politics and we were not great at all that season. 21 we had a lot of come from behind efforts. Boring small ball short passes. No big run breaks very few big pass breaks. Boring. 2022 won more games but most of the games were still the games of short passes very few run. Add in costs of hotels gas inflation of groceries and then add in that every games is broadcast on tv or an app well there you are. You have to want to go see a game live in person fork out for tickets meals hotels gas. It's great for seeing family or old friends if you can all tailgate.This is part of my point in my OP. It’s as if we just lost all interest during/after 2018 season.
Absolutely right. We had a lot of fans that have been priced out of the market. The reseating of the Hump started some to become disenfranchised. As prices continue to go up expect smaller and smaller crowds (not just at State). I thought it was a brilliant idea to change some of the upper deck seating to premium areas. They should do more.
So most of our alums moved out of state in the last 6 years? Because from 2010-2018 we would pack out DWS for a game like this weekend.
Nothing to do with hype for me. From the time I was at State until I turned about 30, I rarely missed a home game. In 2010, I went to every game home and away.Herein lies the reason why the lack of hype = lack of attendance.
That’s my point. The fanbase is there to fill 60k, they just need a reason to be excited.Mullen effect, the dude got the fan base excited.
I understand things are more expensive now, but money is more of an excuse and not a reason for not showing up. If we had an exciting, nfl caliber QB and ranked in the top 20, this weekend would be a sellout.
Regarding parking, has anyone tried Uber / Lyft when going from hotel to DWS or vice versa? Seems like that’s an option that would help many people avoid the parking congestion.This is accurate.
I was reminiscing last weekend as I struggled to find parking with the closure of the grass lot. In the 80s, Dad would Park in the lot behind the Tin gym (lot 17 now) for free. It would be half full most games. But I can remember in 86 and maybe 88, having to park out on the intramural fields (for free) because Bama and auburn filled the place up.
Because AZ is a worthless OOC opponent for us. This game means a hell of a lot more for them than us.
IMO, more people would show up for a USM game. At least that has some level of intrigue to the people who could actually attend the game.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this game scheduled around a Byrne relationship?
Count me in this crowd. I'll tailgate a few times a year, and I may even go in the stadium if someone gives me a ticket or I get a wild idea. Sure, I'd like to see us compete with LSU and Bama, but do I care enough to actually put extra money into something like that? Not even close. There are way more important things for me.That said, we have a number of fans who live in the Starkville area, will wear maroon on Friday and talk about the game at the water cooler on Monday, but won’t come anywhere near Davis Wade this season.
I agree. My point is AZ as an opponent doesn't resonate with the average MSU fan. I don't think they are a bad opponent in terms of quality. They are a much better team this year. But I do think they are not very marketable to a large portion of our fans.Arizona is gonna give us all we want and may even win.
This game reeks of 2019 Kansas State. The fanbase was 100% sure we were going to win that one, too.
We will have a stadium of 47k and the stadium will be completely unintimidating. Home field advantage is real. I am not sure why our fanbase refuses to believe that.
It's not often I'm in agreement with the prince of darkness, but he's spot on here. That actually tilted the scale of reason for why we purchased a RV the year before my firstborn started at State. A 2 night stay arriving Friday night and leaving Sunday afternoon is just $70 (all concrete pads and full hook-ups).^^^^^^^^ This. Me and the Devil family use to stay two nights at pretty much every home game. Now it’s 7K grand for 6 home games, and I can get a nice Caribbean vacation for that so it is not a hard choice.
I can not speak for anyone else, nor would I want to but this is what it has been for us. I usually come to every home game regardless of the opponent, but the price of hotels has me down to 3 or so a year. We only live two hours away, so the idea of paying 1200 dollars when I could just go home is not something that I want to do anymore.It's not often I'm in agreement with the prince of darkness, but he's spot on here. That actually tilted the scale of reason for why we purchased a RV the year before my firstborn started at State. A 2 night stay arriving Friday night and leaving Sunday afternoon is just $70 (all concrete pads and full hook-ups).
Arizona is gonna give us all we want and may even win.
This game reeks of 2019 Kansas State. The fanbase was 100% sure we were going to win that one, too.
We will have a stadium of 47k and the stadium will be completely unintimidating. Home field advantage is real. I am not sure why our fanbase refuses to believe that.
It's likely a combination of a few things:
For all we like to praise the lack of off season hype and lack of preseason ranking so we can surprise everyone and be the underdogs, the downside to this is not having a whole lot of hype to drive attendance. If you are projected to finish last and suck, why would your fans show up?
- Predicted 95 degree temperature at gametime
- Opponent returned ~80% allotment of tickets
- No media hype or excitement/predicted to finish last/near last
A decisive win on Saturday goes a long way to getting people back in the stands, but I recall several weekends in the Dan Mullen era where fans simply didn't show up. Most of them were out of conference games. Sure this is a P-5 opponent, but last year's game was a blowout against them.
I don't think they are going to come into Starkville and blow us out by any means, but...I know quite a few of you feel this way, and I'm open to the possibility they are going to scare us or beat us.
But what are you specifically seeing in terms of last year's results and one game this year that has them in our league? The QB scares me, but I simply don't see any evidence in their recent performance that makes me think they're coming into Starkville and whipping a solid SEC team.
I don't think they are going to come into Starkville and blow us out by any means, but...
They are a year more experienced with a heavy transfer team from last year.
We are running a completely new offense that sputtered at times last week against a FCS opponent
Their QB was pretty shifty last year and could give us some trouble
Our fanbase unanimously thinks we are going to win this game, and home field advantage will be lacking.