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Speaking as a 1999 Grad, the University had a long way to go with Inclusion and Diversity at the time I was on campus. I don't know any current students, and while I hope it's gotten a lot better, I have no idea how far we've come (seems that the Black student population is still pretty under-represented). But I'm sure many thought things were just fine in the late 90s.
 
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Does a vote of no confidence mean anything or is the bot likely to tell the faculty senate to go f*ck themselves?

EDIT: Wait a minute, wait a minute. Franklin will tell the faculty senate to go f*ck themselves. Franklin, Kraft, and Neeli are maligned aligned.
 
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I did not read the article yet. I will. That being said, having previously worked with the faculty senate, half those bozos are so caught up in their own little world, they are clueless and have no sense of real world reality since many have never known anything outside of educational jobs.
 

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Bob cheer her up with some anecdotes.


Surprised to read this; thought everyone was pretty happy with her. This is really not a big deal in practical terms though; just signals disapproval from the faculty senate. Concerning the DEI stuff mentioned, is it that she's not doing anything, or doing too much? Article isn't clear.
 

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Surprised to read this; thought everyone was pretty happy with her. This is really not a big deal in practical terms though; just signals disapproval from the faculty senate. Concerning the DEI stuff mentioned, is it that she's not doing anything, or doing too much? Article isn't clear.
I've heard some grumblings about her cutting budgets for individual departments to try to get the overall university budget balanced. Which probably is actually reasonable, but often accompanied by a point that the central administration of the university still grows and doesn't have its budget impacted. So there's probably a bit of both real justification in addition to academic cluelessness going on.
 

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Does a vote of no confidence mean anything or is the bot likely to tell the faculty senate to go f*ck themselves?

EDIT: Wait a minute, wait a minute. Franklin will tell the faculty senate to go f*ck themselves. Franklin, Kraft, and Neeli are maligned aligned.
The faculty vote means nothing regarding Bendapudi’s employment. It’s just their way of saying they’re mad.
 

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Surprised to read this; thought everyone was pretty happy with her. This is really not a big deal in practical terms though; just signals disapproval from the faculty senate. Concerning the DEI stuff mentioned, is it that she's not doing anything, or doing too much? Article isn't clear.
It's a powder keg either way.
 
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I've heard some grumblings about her cutting budgets for individual departments to try to get the overall university budget balanced. Which probably is actually reasonable, but often accompanied by a point that the central administration of the university still grows and doesn't have its budget impacted. So there's probably a bit of both real justification in addition to academic cluelessness going on.
She also pretty much replaced all the deans and higher up administrative folks that have had long tenures at PSU. Constantly bringing in new blood. Not to say that is a bad thing or good thing but I am sure there are a lot of unhappy people because knowing PSU people, they like to keep the status quo and don't like change and have the "this is a tiny town and we don't want you coming 'round" mentality. Now I have been living in SC 20+ years, the new blood has been refreshing at times, some things have felt stuck about 20 years behind when I first moved here.
 
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Surprised to read this; thought everyone was pretty happy with her. This is really not a big deal in practical terms though; just signals disapproval from the faculty senate. Concerning the DEI stuff mentioned, is it that she's not doing anything, or doing too much? Article isn't clear.

Per the letter attached to the article, it would seem the faculty feel they are "not doing enough":

The most egregious examples of this are the University’s new budget model, the consistent failure to uphold the University’s commitments to racial justice, diversity, inclusion, equity, and belonging and the continuing expansion of undergraduate enrollment at University Park beyond the capability of the existing infrastructure.
 
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Spoiler alert for the faculty senate: Most of the commonwealth campuses will be closed over the next 10 years

Keep in mind that the senate ranks are dominated by people from those campuses. That is one reason why people who urged the faculty senate to speak out against the NCAA failed --- CC people couldn't care less about athletics. You may recall that the past faculty senate chairs did release such a letter -- most of them were main campus people.
 
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I've heard some grumblings about her cutting budgets for individual departments to try to get the overall university budget balanced. Which probably is actually reasonable, but often accompanied by a point that the central administration of the university still grows and doesn't have its budget impacted. So there's probably a bit of both real justification in addition to academic cluelessness going on.
Right. She is showing some fiscal sanity and the faculty are worried about themselves
 

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Speaking as a 1999 Grad, the University had a long way to go with Inclusion and Diversity at the time I was on campus. I don't know any current students, and while I hope it's gotten a lot better, I have no idea how far we've come (seems that the Black student population is still pretty under-represented). But I'm sure many thought things were just fine in the late 90s.
You can’t make people go to state. Are you suggesting we let black students attend for free?
 

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The administration’s three executive orders targeting diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility (DEIA) initiatives take a “shock and awe” approach that upends longstanding, bipartisan federal policy meant to open doors that had been unfairly closed. In his first few days, is undertaking a deliberate effort to obfuscate and weaponize civil rights laws that address discrimination.

With these actions, the administration is not only undoing decades of federal anti-discrimination policy, spanning Democratic and Republican presidential administrations alike, but also marshalling federal enforcement agencies to bully both private and government entities into abandoning legal efforts to promote equity and remedy systemic discrimination.

The executive orders also target DEIA and necessary practices in higher education institutions and schools. These actions mischaracterize lawful equity programs as discriminatory, aiming to chill efforts to promote equal access in education, therefore...no federal aid.
 
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You can’t make people go to state. Are you suggesting we let black students attend for free?
No…I’m suggesting that we should make a strong effort to recruit/retain black students, and any other under-represented groups.

I had one pretty close black friend in school, and it was a daily occurrence for him to be asked what sport he played. Things that would have never occurred to me or I took for granted impacted him…he had to find friends to cut his hair or wait until he went home because there were so few black students thus no market for anyone downtown to know what they were doing. Other students would give him compliments like “wow, you’re so well spoken”…I’d take that as a compliment, but he took it as an insult.

Being able to interact frequently with those that are different is a big part of college that isn’t learned in the classroom. PSU is a better place when the school isn’t dominated by straight, white, Christian males (or that group and rich foreign students).
 

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No…I’m suggesting that we should make a strong effort to recruit/retain black students, and any other under-represented groups.

I had one pretty close black friend in school, and it was a daily occurrence for him to be asked what sport he played. Things that would have never occurred to me or I took for granted impacted him…he had to find friends to cut his hair or wait until he went home because there were so few black students thus no market for anyone downtown to know what they were doing. Other students would give him compliments like “wow, you’re so well spoken”…I’d take that as a compliment, but he took it as an insult.

Being able to interact frequently with those that are different is a big part of college that isn’t learned in the classroom. PSU is a better place when the school isn’t dominated by straight, white, Christian males (or that group and rich foreign students).
I just don’t understand HOW a university or any organization accomplishes this. Go to any hs cafeteria and look who sits where. I don’t see any inroads being made, programs, plans, grand idea doing nothing.
 

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I just don’t understand HOW a university or any organization accomplishes this. Go to any hs cafeteria and look who sits where. I don’t see any inroads being made, programs, plans, grand idea doing nothing.
I don’t know and you don’t know. Those that probably know best are those that have careers/studied about Diversity and Inclusion…but it’s now become the boogeyman and we’re heading back to ignoring it or throwing in the towel.

As for “Go to any hs cafeteria and look who sits where”, it’s likely a product of the diversity in the school…my area is extremely diverse, and it shows in my children’s friends. Areas that are less diverse might have more of what you’ve spoken to (as it was definitely true where I grew up).
 
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I've heard some grumblings about her cutting budgets for individual departments to try to get the overall university budget balanced. Which probably is actually reasonable, but often accompanied by a point that the central administration of the university still grows and doesn't have its budget impacted. So there's probably a bit of both real justification in addition to academic cluelessness going on.
Yeah balance the budget and quit spending money you don't have-they should fire her. Lol
 

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No…I’m suggesting that we should make a strong effort to recruit/retain black students, and any other under-represented groups.

I had one pretty close black friend in school, and it was a daily occurrence for him to be asked what sport he played. Things that would have never occurred to me or I took for granted impacted him…he had to find friends to cut his hair or wait until he went home because there were so few black students thus no market for anyone downtown to know what they were doing. Other students would give him compliments like “wow, you’re so well spoken”…I’d take that as a compliment, but he took it as an insult.

Being able to interact frequently with those that are different is a big part of college that isn’t learned in the classroom. PSU is a better place when the school isn’t dominated by straight, white, Christian males (or that group and rich foreign students).
When working in Baltimore city schools, Penn State and many other predominantly white north east and mid Atlantic large universities definitely were doing their damnedest to recruit good students like those who attended Baltimore poly or city high schools. They could have offered free rides to many of those kids and they still would not have accepted because kids from the city do not want to go to school in a rural area in cold weather. And the few that actually do consider generally have their parents telling them that it’s a bad idea.
 
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I just don’t understand HOW a university or any organization accomplishes this. Go to any hs cafeteria and look who sits where. I don’t see any inroads being made, programs, plans, grand idea doing nothing.
When there is a quantified desire, there is a way
 
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