Actually a European style VAT might be a more apt comparison. Trump has even referred to the VAT over there as a kind of tariff I believe.
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Are you going through one of your schizophrenic episodes? I’m asking to understand your question better. Not sure if your dense or uninformed on what’s going on down there.
Nissan is failing because they are losing billions due to their leasing model, not because of car sales. That is why they are doomed.
I'd be good with tariffs on seats if they would come up with better upholstery and in better colors **
Exactly. Somewhere in this thread someone said they fixed that issue. No idea if that’s right.
Toyota announces they will build their new hybrid in Indiana instead of Mexico to avoid the tariffs. Ain't that crazy ?? One of you geniuses need to reach out to the CEO of Toyota and explain tariffs to him. Obviously he doesn't understand how they work...lol
Do you have a link? All I can find is the announcement from last April saying Toyota was putting $1.4 billion into its Indiana plant to build their new 3 row EV there.
April 2024 Announcement
I just want to know what the new hybrid is going to be. A 3 row hybrid land cruiser would be cool.
Eta @thatsbaseball posted it. It's a Honda civic, not a Toyota. No 3rd row land cruiser in the US yet. Bastards
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I'm looking at the new Ford Explorer ST. It has the twin turbo 3.0 ecoboost V6 @400 horsepower and the 10 spd transmission built in Michigan. I think I've purchased my last import.
If Trump can get these American car makers to put V8’s back in the vehicles, I’ll vote for him a 4th time.
I'm kinda disappointed in the explorer lineup right now. They're taking one of the last few mid size body on frame SUVs and turning it into a street performance type vehicle. I wish they'd make it more off road worthy or throw a 3rd row in the Bronco somehow.
Silverado and F150s have them all day - have you considered driving a vehicle for a grown man?*
I have a truck for that. I'm looking for a street vehicle that can haul some luggage and a couple of people and that I can also do some testing and tuning with.
Ford is coming out with an Everest that's a Ranger platform offroad SUV that's going be pretty nice
I've read that the 3.0 is a totally new engine but if it is as good as the 2.7 ecoboost in my F150 you'll love it.
If they put a 3rd row in the Bronco, I will trade in my Armada immediately. It’s really the only thing keeping me from buying one until my son starts driving full time.
I have a truck for that. I'm looking for a street vehicle that can haul some luggage and a couple of people and that I can also do some testing and tuning with.
Well nevermind. I just looked it up and I guess it's unibody construction now. Great for the highway, but not built for Rocky trails.
I'm in the market in the next 12 months for a kid hauler for my wife. We need a 3rd row, but also want to be able to take it out fishing or hiking in the backcountry. I really don't want to buy a full size, but the picking is getting slim.
Are they bringing it to the US? I feel like they'll have to kill the explorer if they do.
Then why were those options not available on the expedition last year? Thanks, Ford.
I’m sure the performance of the vehicles doesn’t help, but business and #’s wise their leasing model was doomed to fail and 2020/Covid just sped it up.
Isn't that why everyone's leasing companies are set up totally separate and stand alone from the manufacturing and sales company?
Supposed to be coming later this year I think, I've been eying these for awhile
Probably not. If you want to gamble on Nissan, the new Armada is available as a Pro-4X now for 2025
I saw an announcement last week that they're coming but not sure when. Seems like it was August/Sept maybe???
Drove one with the small turbo diesel in Costa Rica. Great ride. Not sure how that model fits in with the Explorer but several manufacturers have overlap in their US SUV lineup these days. I guess there's a reason for it.
Yeah, I made the assumption they had made the same terrible decision with the f150. Glad they still have the option for a v8
At least it's available with 18" wheels. All the other full size SUVs force you into 20" wheels in the off-road models for some reason. But $80k for a Nissan right now feels a little to masochistic even for me.
I actually love your being able to choose what you want to buy and me enjoying the same freedom.
Loving or Hating an EV and owning one, I get. Hating on them while never having owned one, sounds ignorant.