While I may not agree with the BOT decision, I will not turn my back on the institution that I owe my career and my marriage to. You are free to boycott if you want, but finding solutions to problems would be far more effective.
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How can people find solutions if they don't have access to information, if they don't have a voice?
Not my problem, but coming here and whining about it solves nothing. If it is information you seek, and you feel there are laws being broke, as Barry apparently does, write some letters and make some phone calls. I would totally support transparency. Again though, coming here under an anonymous name and whining gets you nowhere.
FairTrue. But there is at least one new poster here today that might not have heard it.
I think by this point even Diane Lane is rolling her eyes when you post you won't be going to Penn State games.
Hey. I get it. A lot of what I read here is repetitive, but there are easy solutions. The easiest is to use the ignore button and you will never have to deal with my insufferable repetitions again. Now, I personally have no one on ignore, but that is not to say I don't ignore certain people. I just see their post and I don't read it. The reason I repeat as much as I do is because so many of the threads bring up the same issues. I am not posting that drivel in Olympic threads, or Cheese Steak threads. Still, I understand it can become tiresome but I just can't help myself.
My Diane???
Horrors!I think I need a Board break and so I will use this opportunity to take an extended one. See you all down the road. Peace to all and May God bless us, every one.
Brief clarification...My Board break has nothing to do with this, or any other, thread. I was going to be off the Board all of August anyway. The Gambits will be traveling extensively, leaving early tomorrow. We will be visiting family and friends, never leaving the States. While I will generally have internet access, our schedule is full though early September and I want to take the time to relax and enjoy my time with those closest to my heart. To friend and foe alike, all the best. May God bless us, every one.
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How many times do you intend to make the same point?
Now you’re just being sanctimonious. It says a
See his reply to your post and mine. Pretty sure he’s just a sanctimonious pr#%k who just needs to hear himself talk. My post was flippant but your’s was well reasoned and well communicated, yet he still had to respond like an a$$.
if you were the donor you say you were, why don’t you contact the school and eloquently tell them your reasons for not donating anymore. Perhaps they don’t read BWI and don’t realize Mr. Fairgambit, Class of 19…. is so disenfranchised with the university that he is withholding donations? Has anyone here that whines routinely actually attempted to contact the leadership at PSU to voice their concerns? Or do you just come here anonymously to do it?
yes, but it proved to be a pointless exercise, so I'll vote with my wallet- feel free to give them more if you wish
Well it's all part of the "pillow talk" we have before she leaves.My Diane???
I think I need a Board break and so I will use this opportunity to take an extended one. See you all down the road. Peace to all and May God bless us, every one.
Exactly.... call your governor or congressman like LB99 says and tell them PSU needs change immediately.... that will get us going quickly down the road to fixing things right?
We do everytime they call asking for money.... yet they still keep calling.
You can find the non PSU topics somewhere other than a PSU board. You are here for PSU topics.
Do you really come to a PSU board for cheese steak and Phillies talk? Cmon.
I think you are a Joebot that Obrien referenced.PSU BOT ....You can trust us behind closed doors what could go wrong...
YOu are the problem. You wont be happy until Joes corpse is propped up on the sideline.
you seem upset- write them a check, you will feel better, I imagine
It‘s not for you to decide how you use your money.
Have you tried? How many BOT members did you contact? PSU Adminstration ? Local and state government officials? Local and state media? If you feel laws are being broken and you feel that strongly about it, maybe seek legal counsel? If you haven’t, sounds like you are giving up before trying. I don’t always agree with Barry’s tactics or logic, but I respect his willingness to challenge the status quo legally because he felt laws were broken. If enough people didn’t stop until every rock was turned over than maybe your voice would be heard. If you truly want to make a difference, then do it.Exactly.... call your governor or congressman like LB99 says and tell them PSU needs change immediately.... that will get us going quickly down the road to fixing things right?
You mean the students they have making those calls who have no idea what the old guy on the other end of the line is talking about?
You contacted them voicing your concerns? Do as you wish, but I doubt they will even notice Mr. Nitt1300 didn’t go to the Kent State game.
They might not notice the absence of someone to one or more games, but they do notice the withdrawal of what promised to be an eight-figure donor. They still call. Do anything? Not at all, pilgrim.
Fair point, but I have to ask, have you voiced your concerns and reason for withholding to the powers that be. Or did you just silently withdraw as GrimReaper?
gee thanks, I will indeed do as I wish
and them ignoring the alumni- yeah, we all know that
So you presumably donated a sum of at least $10m and you’re trolling around a free message board? Ok.
I'm trying to find where I wrote that it was me.
You are the one that started this discussion. You had to expect that there would be some differing opinions. If that is what you were looking for, congrats, you succeeded.
I’ll miss your posts but will remain patiently waiting photos of your 2024/2025 Christmas tree.My Diane???
I think I need a Board break and so I will use this opportunity to take an extended one. See you all down the road. Peace to all and May God bless us, every one.
Differing opinions only upset the thin of skin.
Many of have done this multiple times. The lower level folks who do work with fundraising who I have interacted with (one was the son of a floor mate of mine, oddly enough) get it and some have told me they are hearing a lot of the same thing that I've spoken up about. But the folks higher up aren't listening. So be it. I do plan on writing a brief letter to the Penn Stater. I do not expect it to be published. I also plan on asking them why I did not get an election ballot this year (I did get the nomination one).
Totally disagree, @fairgambit is one of the most sensible and logical people on here
Not that this is a high hurdle
There are two asses in this post and @fairgambit isn't one of them.
Who says I am an old guy.... lack of reading comprehension by some on this board never ceases to amaze me.
Since I am a bit old-er, and have a better understanding of the history of the makeup of the BOT (learned from 2 past Presidents and several BOT members, past and present) -- the PA Gov. and the Legislature determine the numbers and appointees to the BOT. We have tried to make changes since the 1960's - they do not listen.
Oh and BTW - I might be a bit old-er, but my oldest daughter is also an Alum, and my oldest grandson will be a Freshman next fall and my youngest grandson will play as a CB somewhere - hopefully PSU. I am not removed in supporting and hoping students receive a quality education at Penn State, I hope the inner workings and decisions of the Administration and BOT reflect the best under changing economic policies.
If there might be interest - I can suggest an economic policy committee from another school, that would gain better profits than PSU.
Suggestion - learn something first, then comment - otherwise GFY (IF you can understand the entire comment).
While I do agree totally with fairgambit I do understand his position. I donated to my college for years, not much but something every year. After the Sandusky thing I stopped giving and sent an email to the development people and the Dean on why I stopped and why I did not want them to contact me again.
I still attend football games and pay for 2 Season Tickets. But it is now about seeing old friends rather than just going to the games.
As for this board I agree with fairgambit that more is discussed here than PSU and I will learn of other stories.
The BOT needs to be changed. The Ag folks need to be reduced. Same with the Business and Industry folks and no naming your successor. The number of folks on the board should be reduced to a manageable number.
I still attend football games and pay for 2 Season Tickets. But it is now about seeing old friends rather than just going to the games.
As for this board I agree with fairgambit that more is discussed here than PSU and I will learn of other stories.
The BOT needs to be changed. The Ag folks need to be reduced. Same with the Business and Industry folks and no naming your successor. The number of folks on the board should be reduced to a manageable number.
RO, were you in Ocean City NJ last week? I saw a guy on the beach that I suspect was about your age with a shirt that said "I may be old, but I got to see the best bands". Immediately thought of you.