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That’s one of the ugliest games you’ll ever see were you score 38 points.
I will take a win, ugly or otherwise over a Pretty Loss. That was the best offensive game plan and execution since the Mayo Bowl. We did that with our best running back sitting in Columbia with a bad wheel. Too many penalties but on the late hit, there should have been off-setting penalties. Considering throwing my glasses away (blind without them) so I can apply to the SEC for an officiating job.
 

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Ah, the Boomers are happy. As long as we get to a bowl, all is well.
That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
 
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That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
Because we don't play in that Jr High league.
 

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That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
You do realize no one cares about your views! This is a Carolina site. Wonder if Dabo went into the Irish locker room after the game?
 
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I will take a win, ugly or otherwise over a Pretty Loss. That was the best offensive game plan and execution since the Mayo Bowl. We did that with our best running back sitting in Columbia with a bad wheel. Too many penalties but on the late hit, there should have been off-setting penalties. Considering throwing my glasses away (blind without them) so I can apply to the SEC for an officiating job.
The offensive game plan only scored us 7 second half points against one of the worst defenses in the nation.

i’m glad we won, but that effort would not have beaten any other team in the conference besides Vanderbilt.
 

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That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
Cause we don’t cheat or play in the A She She
 
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We have a weak online and Lloyd was hurt and CBS is hobbled, our secondary is desperately thin…all this is to say, I’m just glad we won! And we beat the officials! And we won an SEC road game, which is always a solid win.
The officials almost seemed paid off.
 
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I am not a Satterfield apologist, but he did do a better job of getting the balls to our guys in space. That said, we still did not run anything that is complimentary, and still miss things that lower level offenses do not miss (level crossing routes, throwing to empty spaces left by a blitzer, and on a couple of major plays had 2-3 receivers very close to each other).

Rattler looked better than he has all year. Jaheim Bell needs to be on the field unit he can’t go anymore (may be the 2nd best back we have in traffic). We have some quality talent in space. Have to keep getting them there.

Defense was poor tonight, other than the takeaways. We don’t have the talent upfront to dominate. We will continue to give up yards until we do. As the field shrinks, D should improve. What we typically have done an adequate job of giving up points. Not tonight.

I will stand by what I said before. White, with improved talent, will be a good DC. Satterfield has better talent than he had last year, yet we still do things that are head scratchers. I do not think replacing coordinators every two years is a good idea, but I do think the ceiling for a Satterfield called game is not very high.
 

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I am not a Satterfield apologist, but he did do a better job of getting the balls to our guys in space. That said, we still did not run anything that is complimentary, and still miss things that lower level offenses do not miss (level crossing routes, throwing to empty spaces left by a blitzer, and on a couple of major plays had 2-3 receivers very close to each other).

Rattler looked better than he has all year. Jaheim Bell needs to be on the field unit he can’t go anymore (may be the 2nd best back we have in traffic). We have some quality talent in space. Have to keep getting them there.

Defense was poor tonight, other than the takeaways. We don’t have the talent upfront to dominate. We will continue to give up yards until we do. As the field shrinks, D should improve. What we typically have done an adequate job of giving up points. Not tonight.

I will stand by what I said before. White, with improved talent, will be a good DC. Satterfield has better talent than he had last year, yet we still do things that are head scratchers. I do not think replacing coordinators every two years is a good idea, but I do think the ceiling for a Satterfield called game is not very high.
The fact that Satterfield was a groomsman in Beamer's wedding and that he has never produced even a Top 50 offense here nor during his time as an OC at Temple, really makes him suspect in my eyes, and, I believe in the eyes of at least 90% of Gamecock fans. I don't need to read statistics to realize that Satterfield is way over his head. Our offense at times looks impotent. If Satterfield had not been a buddy of Beamer's, would he have gotten through the front door for an interview to be OC? I doubt it.
 

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The fact that Satterfield was a groomsman in Beamer's wedding and that he has never produced even a Top 50 offense here nor during his time as an OC at Temple, really makes him suspect in my eyes, and, I believe in the eyes of at least 90% of Gamecock fans. I don't need to read statistics to realize that Satterfield is way over his head. Our offense at times looks impotent. If Satterfield had not been a buddy of Beamer's, would he have gotten through the front door for an interview to be OC? I doubt it.

Agreed.

And to the previous posters point, stability at coordinator is good, but I don't think it's a reason to keep an underachieving coordinator.
 

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That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
How can anybody not get bowl eligible in the ACC, it's a joke of a football conference, a completely different scenario than playing in the SEC; just ask ol' Jimbo. If you think Clemson and Dabo would be anywhere near where they are now if they were in the SEC, well you are delusional. Schedule and conference matters, that's why any ACC team with one loss should never be considered for the playoffs, especially when the loss is against an unranked team. That said, USC is trying to rebuild a team that was decimated by a terrible coach and some very bad decisions; trying to get to the point of being a more competitive football team year-in and year-out. That's the short-term goal, it's a process, surely you remember that during the pre-Dabo era at Clemson, it hasn't been that long ago. We may not ever do that, we may never even get back to the 11-win seasons and 5 straight wins over Clemson like we had in Spurrier's time, but if we were in the ACC, I assure you it would be a much easier task. But for you to take the comments of one or two posters on here and put your own words in their mouths is shameful; why would a Tiger fan be on here doing that, I mean, get a life, go cry with all the other Clemson whiners this morning, it is hilarious. There is not a single USC fan on here or anywhere that is content with winning 6 games and going to a low-tier bowl game, and nobody on here said that! All they are saying is that it is a process, especially in the SEC; we have a long way to go and this is a first step, and we may or may not make it.
But your post reminds me of why I am glad I'm not a Clemson fan; biggest bunch of arrogant fans there is; biggest bunch of whiners and complainers if they don't make the playoffs every year; fans that go to the Gamecock Central website when their team loses and bash our fans and our team, and fans that live in the delusional world of thinking that beating a bunch of weak ACC teams in a weak conference means they have as good a tradition as Bama, UGA, or any other SEC team that battle week-in, week-out against real teams. Even after losses against other SEC teams, there will likely still be 5 SEC teams in the top ten, how many ACC teams in there? There will be zero, if the pollsters are honest, and the ACC teams in the Top 25 have beaten nobody, their wins are against other weak ACC Teams. Well enough wasting time on a delusional Clemson fan.
 

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Agreed.

And to the previous posters point, stability at coordinator is good, but I don't think it's a reason to keep an underachieving coordinator.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I believe we should cut our losses at the end of the season.

I said last night, before the Vandy game, that the offense (passing game) should put on a clinic because Vandy has the 2nd worst passing defense in the nation. Lo and behold, an article on the front page praises what a great showing Rattler had last night. The fact is that Clemson has the only good defense we will face the rest of the season. That MIGHT save Satterfield. But, it will be a mirage. My concern is that Beamer might axe one of the other offensive assistants (maybe deservedly so) as the "fall guy" and keep Satterfield on as OC. That will be a kick to the gut of Gamecock fans.
 

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That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
If clemson played in the SEC they probably would have more than 1 loss at this point. The two ranked teams they played were total pretenders.
 
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Agreed.

And to the previous posters point, stability at coordinator is good, but I don't think it's a reason to keep an underachieving coordinator.
Do not misunderstand me, I don’t like playing musical coordinators, but I believe the ceiling for his offense is not very high. He leaves a lot on the table and rarely makes positive in-game adjustments. He did do some things better last night. I do not believe he is the answer.
 
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Do not misunderstand me, I don’t like playing musical coordinators, but I believe the ceiling for his offense is not very high. He leaves a lot on the table and rarely makes positive in-game adjustments. He did do some things better last night. I do not believe he is the answer.

I agree with that. My comment was about not wanting to switch coordinators every two years. I agree with that sentiment as well, but I believe you have to have the right coordinator first.

And I don't believe Satterfield is that guy.
 

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You do realize no one cares about your views! This is a Carolina site. Wonder if Dabo went into the Irish locker room after the game?
N0ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR VIEWS. GO BACK TO WHEREEVER YOU CAME FROM
 
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Being happy with a goal of being bowl eligible is the definition of accepting mediocrity
Yeah, being bowl eligible is almost the default. We have 4 wins built into the schedule with cupcakes. That means we only have to get 2 more to be eligible. Not exactly a great accomplishment.
 

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The offensive game plan only scored us 7 second half points against one of the worst defenses in the nation.

i’m glad we won, but that effort would not have beaten any other team in the conference besides Vanderbilt.
Actually, a worse effort beat TAMU.
 

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We have to find an offense that can make plays against elite defenses. Otherwise, we're doomed to mediocrity.
In those 2 sentences, you have hit the bullseye, much, much better than I have. We will never have the talent to match up with the traditional powers in this league. Right now, including Texas and Oklahoma, our recruiting is 9th in the SEC....... NINTH!!!!! We can never go toe-to-toe with those programs. I'm NOT advocating going to option-style offence. NO.....not at all. The military academies, over the years, were able to play with and even beat Power 5 FBS schools because their offenses were tailored towards the less talented player. AGAIN, I am NOT advocating option-style football. That would not work long-term. What I am advocating is offensive football like Lincoln Riley ran with and runs at Oklahoma/Southern Cal. You greatly improve the odds of winning when you spread out the opposition, which, in essence, is what the military academies have done on offense over the years. That's how Dabo, early in his time at Clemson, beat traditional powers like Ohio State, Oklahoma, LSU, etc. The pro-style offense run by Satterfield, the buffoon, is destined to mire us in mediocrity. Does Beamer realize this? I'm not optimistic that he does.
 

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I'm NOT advocating going to option-style offence.
Semantics....RPO is an option as is zone read. Spread generally implies the alignment of the OL...spread out. It pushes the DE further out, but also leaves bigger gaps.
Dual threat: guy who can make plays with his arm and his legs.

QB rushing stats:
Latest poll 1-5 QBs: Name, avg yds rush, TDs rushing
UGA Bennett - 4.5 - 6 TDs
OSU Stroud -3.0 - 0 TDs
Mich McCarthy - 5.2- 2 TDs
TCU Duggan - 3.4 - 4 TDs
UTenn Hooker - 3.9 - 4 TDs

USC Rattler - 0.4- 2 TDs
USC Shaw (2013) - 3.9 - 6 TDs
 
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I agree with that. My comment was about not wanting to switch coordinators every two years. I agree with that sentiment as well, but I believe you have to have the right coordinator first.

And I don't believe Satterfield is that guy.
He’s the right guy if we want a low ceiling. I hope Beamer makes a change after the season.
 

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Elon‘s offense performed comparably to ours in terms of both yards and points against Vanderbilt.

it is possible to both be glad for the win and to realize the offense still has considerable work to do.
 

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That right there is why I'm glad I'm not a USC fan. Accepting "bowl eligibility" is a G5 dream, not a P5 dream, especially in the SEC (unless you're Vandy, but they're the "one that doesn't belong" anyway). But my Tigers took it straight to the chin tonight. No doubt that. It hurts. We have problems ALL over the board. But if we were worrying about just being bowl eligible, heads would roll. Heads MAY roll, even at 8-1 for us. Why doesn't USC have that same energy and want to?
Haha, if we played that tough ACC schedule we would be wanting a Championship!