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johnson86-1

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Playing with BBQ in my pub a couple of days a week this summer. Going to go traditional Texas BBQ on 1 day every week. Brisket, ribs, and sausage. White meat is not going to be on the menu, because it ain't. Going simple with the sides, pit beans (that recipe I shared on here from the State Fair of Texas), potato salad, and a cucumber salad that I had at Bar A BBQ a few weeks ago.

The 2nd day is when we are going to have fun. Will probably do pulled pork consistently, but other proteins and sides will rotate and include fun stuff. Here's what I have so far:

Proteins
  • smoked meatloaf
  • pork belly burnt ends
  • tri-tip,
  • texas twinkies
  • turkey breast
Sides I have dialed in the following
  • smoked bacon and ranch mac and cheese
  • brisket elotes
  • salsa
  • smoked queso
  • pineapple & jalapeño cole slaw

We are gone run this for about 10 weeks and I want to rotate this stuff around almost every week. Give me your best ideas. I don't want to interfere with my pizza business so all of this is being done on a smoker... easy bake style so basically an outdoor oven. Looking for a few more sides and proteins. And for the record, the pineapple and jalapeno cole slaw on a fried halibut taco is maybe the best bite of food I have had in my life.
I don't have any specific tips, but if you're looking for some experts that do a really good job of putting a lot of good bbq through consistently that people love, you could do worse than checking out these guys: Mash Here
 

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Malcolm Reed is my hero!
Ran into him at Walmart in Hernando a couple months ago. I just recognized him from his YouTube stuff but it was funny how he seemed surprised that he was recognized. Seemed like a real good dude just like on his show. I told him I was a huge fan and followed him and Matt at Meat Church. He said him and Matt were good friends.
 

PooPopsBaldHead

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BBQ joints have to be so nerve wracking. Pizza, burgers, wings, etc. you catch a rush it may slow service but you can cook all of that. If you are not an established steady Q joint where you know what your volume will be,how do you plan for it? Either run out of food or try and pull off leftovers the next day.
It's different in a touristy place even with pizza. On Friday an Saturday nights in July and August we are usually booked out for the night by 5:30 or 6 PM. We can only make so much dough and cook so many pizzas on a given day and when our population in town swells from 4K to 40K on a summer weekend there's no keeping up. Our dough is almost like a sourdough, it rises in a proofing cabinet throughout the day. After about 6-8 hours it falls flat and needs to be thrown out. So our goal is to sell out or get very close and chunk a few dough skins everynight if necessary.

What that has taught me is that similar to those top BBQ joints that are willing to run out. Quality and freshness are more important than maximizing those last few sales by "never running out." You can repurpose some BBQ items (turn brisket from yesterday into chopped brisket today sorta thing) but generally speaking leftover BBQ is crappy.

So we are going to cook 2 briskets, 12 slabs of ribs, and a couple dozen sausages on day 1. We'll probably run out by 1 pm. If we do, we'll cook a little more the next time and tell folks to get here earlier. Scarcity is something we are targeting. I have enough of a local following with my regulars that I don't even know if we'll get many tourists in the door to try it.

It's easy for me to be willing to run out since the BBQ is just incremental business bolted on to my cash cow pizza biz. Starting from scratch in its own entity would be scary as all get out to try to figure out how much to make, yet still wanting to run out.
 

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It's different in a touristy place even with pizza. On Friday an Saturday nights in July and August we are usually booked out for the night by 5:30 or 6 PM. We can only make so much dough and cook so many pizzas on a given day and when our population in town swells from 4K to 40K on a summer weekend there's no keeping up. Our dough is almost like a sourdough, it rises in a proofing cabinet throughout the day. After about 6-8 hours it falls flat and needs to be thrown out. So our goal is to sell out or get very close and chunk a few dough skins everynight if necessary.

What that has taught me is that similar to those top BBQ joints that are willing to run out. Quality and freshness are more important than maximizing those last few sales by "never running out." You can repurpose some BBQ items (turn brisket from yesterday into chopped brisket today sorta thing) but generally speaking leftover BBQ is crappy.

So we are going to cook 2 briskets, 12 slabs of ribs, and a couple dozen sausages on day 1. We'll probably run out by 1 pm. If we do, we'll cook a little more the next time and tell folks to get here earlier. Scarcity is something we are targeting. I have enough of a local following with my regulars that I don't even know if we'll get many tourists in the door to try it.

It's easy for me to be willing to run out since the BBQ is just incremental business bolted on to my cash cow pizza biz. Starting from scratch in its own entity would be scary as all get out to try to figure out how much to make, yet still wanting to run out.
Agreed. If I go to a BBQ place and they are closed an hour early because they ran out, i understand. Now if they do that a bunch, they need to forecast better.
 

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Playing with BBQ in my pub a couple of days a week this summer. Going to go traditional Texas BBQ on 1 day every week. Brisket, ribs, and sausage. White meat is not going to be on the menu, because it ain't. Going simple with the sides, pit beans (that recipe I shared on here from the State Fair of Texas), potato salad, and a cucumber salad that I had at Bar A BBQ a few weeks ago.

The 2nd day is when we are going to have fun. Will probably do pulled pork consistently, but other proteins and sides will rotate and include fun stuff. Here's what I have so far:

Proteins
  • smoked meatloaf
  • pork belly burnt ends
  • tri-tip,
  • texas twinkies
  • turkey breast
Sides I have dialed in the following
  • smoked bacon and ranch mac and cheese
  • brisket elotes
  • salsa
  • smoked queso
  • pineapple & jalapeño cole slaw

We are gone run this for about 10 weeks and I want to rotate this stuff around almost every week. Give me your best ideas. I don't want to interfere with my pizza business so all of this is being done on a smoker... easy bake style so basically an outdoor oven. Looking for a few more sides and proteins. And for the record, the pineapple and jalapeno cole slaw on a fried halibut taco is maybe the best bite of food I have had in my life.
No white meat? is the reason cause it was DEI 😉
 

PooPopsBaldHead

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I don't know how refined them mountain folks are but I do a Blooming Bologna that's always a big hit. Get a 4-6 inch piece of a whole chub. Stand on end and slice down to about 3/4 inch from the bottom making about 1/2 inch fries. I seasoning with Cajun seasoning and then pack with brown sugar. Put it in a disposable pan because the sugar makes a mess. Smoke until the brown sugar starts to crystallize. You can drizzle with BBQ sauce or honey near the end. It's a perfect finger food and they don't last more than a few minutes.
Not to refined to respond to this...


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This actually sounds great. Time and temp?
 
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I used to competition BBQ and made friends with a guy who owned a restaurant. One night I asked him how he serves something in 15 minutes that takes 10 hours to cook and it still taste fresh. He invited me to his place so I went. He smokes everything and then vacuum packs it in serving size portions. When you go in and order a sandwich he pulls out a sandwich size portion pack and throws it in a big pot of boiling water for ten to fifteen minutes, cuts the pack open and you have fresh bbq. Ribs he quarters, halves, and packs whole. Brisket and chicken quarters are done the same. You honestly can't tell its not fresh off the smoker. I now do the same and freeze it, it just takes about thirty minutes in the boil pot to be ready from frozen. My freezer stays full of ready made meals and my smoker is always full when I cook.
 

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It's different in a touristy place even with pizza. On Friday an Saturday nights in July and August we are usually booked out for the night by 5:30 or 6 PM. We can only make so much dough and cook so many pizzas on a given day and when our population in town swells from 4K to 40K on a summer weekend there's no keeping up. Our dough is almost like a sourdough, it rises in a proofing cabinet throughout the day. After about 6-8 hours it falls flat and needs to be thrown out. So our goal is to sell out or get very close and chunk a few dough skins everynight if necessary.

What that has taught me is that similar to those top BBQ joints that are willing to run out. Quality and freshness are more important than maximizing those last few sales by "never running out." You can repurpose some BBQ items (turn brisket from yesterday into chopped brisket today sorta thing) but generally speaking leftover BBQ is crappy.

So we are going to cook 2 briskets, 12 slabs of ribs, and a couple dozen sausages on day 1. We'll probably run out by 1 pm. If we do, we'll cook a little more the next time and tell folks to get here earlier. Scarcity is something we are targeting. I have enough of a local following with my regulars that I don't even know if we'll get many tourists in the door to try it.

It's easy for me to be willing to run out since the BBQ is just incremental business bolted on to my cash cow pizza biz. Starting from scratch in its own entity would be scary as all get out to try to figure out how much to make, yet still wanting to run out.
Work on scarcity, food cost loss is what kills bbq restaurants
 
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I can't remember the name of the processor in MS that does the pineapple jalapeno pepper jack smoked sausage but that stuff is amazing. Maybe you can get his recipe - but it works great with elk and probably bison. That with the suggested pimento cheese and some fry bread would be a nice appetizer.
 

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I would add the BBQ bologna. I cross score mine, rub with mustard and recently changed to using Meat Church Hickory rub. It doesn't even need sauce. The wife never liked BBQ bologna before and she eats it now.
 

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Ran into him at Walmart in Hernando a couple months ago. I just recognized him from his YouTube stuff but it was funny how he seemed surprised that he was recognized. Seemed like a real good dude just like on his show. I told him I was a huge fan and followed him and Matt at Meat Church. He said him and Matt were good friends.
I see Malcolm in his store from time to time. Heath Riles is who usually see in the wild at the butcher in Southaven, or Kroger in OB.
 
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I used to competition BBQ and made friends with a guy who owned a restaurant. One night I asked him how he serves something in 15 minutes that takes 10 hours to cook and it still taste fresh. He invited me to his place so I went. He smokes everything and then vacuum packs it in serving size portions. When you go in and order a sandwich he pulls out a sandwich size portion pack and throws it in a big pot of boiling water for ten to fifteen minutes, cuts the pack open and you have fresh bbq. Ribs he quarters, halves, and packs whole. Brisket and chicken quarters are done the same. You honestly can't tell its not fresh off the smoker. I now do the same and freeze it, it just takes about thirty minutes in the boil pot to be ready from frozen. My freezer stays full of ready made meals and my smoker is always full when I cook.
I have been vac sealing and using sous vide for my BBQ leftovers at home for 4-5 years now. Not quite the same as freshly smoked, but very close The problem is now with all the red tape from health departments. As soon as you say vac seal you have to come up with what's called a HACCP plan in most jurisdictions. Its apparently a turd to get them approved.

What most of the top joints are doing now is hot holding above 140° in a commercial food warmer. This is above the danger zone and allows you to wrap your proteins during the cook and let them rest indefinitely. I'm using this method since I have a couple of pizza warmers laying around.
 

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I've always thought good slaw is a more important part of a memorable BBQ meal than many give it credit. The spicier the better for me.
I agree, but I probably like slaw more than most. It’s gotta have more vinegar than mayo, though. I don’t like “goopy” slaw.
 

PBRME

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I have been vac sealing and using sous vide for my BBQ leftovers at home for 4-5 years now. Not quite the same as freshly smoked, but very close The problem is now with all the red tape from health departments. As soon as you say vac seal you have to come up with what's called a HACCP plan in most jurisdictions. Its apparently a turd to get them approved.

What most of the top joints are doing now is hot holding above 140° in a commercial food warmer. This is above the danger zone and allows you to wrap your proteins during the cook and let them rest indefinitely. I'm using this method since I have a couple of pizza warmers laying around.
I’ve seen in a few places using a warmer at 150 on brisket is a big secret to nailing it every time. Take it to 195. Wrap. Place in a pan. Add a little water. Cover with foil. Keep warm at 150 for about 12 hours. All the fat renders out, and the meat is always tender and juicy.
 

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I saw a video on one of the top Texas joints that said they do their brisket one day and hold at 140 in a warmer for 24 hours and serve it the next day.
 
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Playing with BBQ in my pub a couple of days a week this summer. Going to go traditional Texas BBQ on 1 day every week. Brisket, ribs, and sausage. White meat is not going to be on the menu, because it ain't. Going simple with the sides, pit beans (that recipe I shared on here from the State Fair of Texas), potato salad, and a cucumber salad that I had at Bar A BBQ a few weeks ago.

The 2nd day is when we are going to have fun. Will probably do pulled pork consistently, but other proteins and sides will rotate and include fun stuff. Here's what I have so far:

Proteins
  • smoked meatloaf
  • pork belly burnt ends
  • tri-tip,
  • texas twinkies
  • turkey breast
Sides I have dialed in the following
  • smoked bacon and ranch mac and cheese
  • brisket elotes
  • salsa
  • smoked queso
  • pineapple & jalapeño cole slaw

We are gone run this for about 10 weeks and I want to rotate this stuff around almost every week. Give me your best ideas. I don't want to interfere with my pizza business so all of this is being done on a smoker... easy bake style so basically an outdoor oven. Looking for a few more sides and proteins. And for the record, the pineapple and jalapeno cole slaw on a fried halibut taco is maybe the best bite of food I have had in my life.
Smoked sausage is always an easy addition for me. I also like adding stuffed jalapeños.
 

PooPopsBaldHead

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I’ve seen in a few places using a warmer at 150 on brisket is a big secret to nailing it every time. Take it to 195. Wrap. Place in a pan. Add a little water. Cover with foil. Keep warm at 150 for about 12 hours. All the fat renders out, and the meat is always tender and juicy.
Did this Thursday. Went in my warmer at 11:30PM. Cut into it at 11:30 am the next day. This was the result.... Completely rendered fat.

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Did this Thursday. Went in my warmer at 11:30PM. Cut into it at 11:30 am the next day. This was the result.... Completely rendered fat.

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I bet that’s the best brisket in a 500 mile radius. So that’s out of like, what, a few thousand folks?***

Seriously though, that’s too-tier looking Q. Bravo. I’ve found that when I do a hold of 4 hours or more at home, the brisket is always better than whatever I’m expecting. I wouldn’t be scare of going all the way to 12 hours, even though my oven only holds 170. V jealous of those of you who can hold 150.
 

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Two ideas for you PooPop... both courtesy of my local favorite here in Nashville (Edley's). It won't win all the big awards, but it's a solid "all-'rounder"

1) Their banana pudding is to die for... and they share their recipe here
2) Use some of that brisket and the pineapple / jalapeno slaw to make brisket tacos. Edley's makes them with fried jalapenos and a jalapeno ranch sauce and they are some good eatin'. Can only imagine taking it to 11 with some pineapple and jalapeno slaw.


Sadly, "PooPop's Meats for your Mouth" won't bring in customers so you'll need other ideas in the names dept.
 
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I say just mimic the Hilton Garden Inn BBQ platter. You've seen the results yourself.