Cold temperatures, rusty underpinning, and huge articulated bus equals a potential problem. Miracle no one was killed.
OT: Bridge collapse in Pittsburgh
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Have you factored in the couple of hour head start they need to get there on time and freshen up?
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I can assure you that some of them skip that "freshening up" part.
Heard thru the grape vine that former Penn State player, Paxton, is a suspect.
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maybe the bike riders should pay taxes to build their bike lanes instead of robbing funds that should go to road and bridge maintenance
They don't pay state taxes and are robbing funds? Explain.
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I'm sure you realize most bike riders live in the city and pay absurdly high taxes. Most commuters live outside the city and pay virtually none.
Pittsburgh has the reputation of being a very bicycle-friendly city. The bike trails improve the quality of living and provide recreational opportunities for many people. The northern terminus for the Great Allegheny Passage (one of the top rail trails in the country) is in Point Park. The trail brings in a lot of tourists and associated revenue every year ($121 million economic impact in 2019).
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??? So you have evidence that bike trails produced $121 million of revenue to Pittsburgh in 2019? Most of the people I know consider the bike trails an expensive luxury provided to a handful of bike zealots.
Exactly right! Bicycling is a hobby. Huge amounts of tax money should not go to fund the hobby of a few people.
They should get rid of that stupid walking trail that was under the bridge as well. Actually get rid of that whole park. It adds nothing and costs money to maintain.
how about funding of professional sports stadiums?
Taxpayers should not be funding sports stadiums. The taxpayers paid hundreds of millions of dollars for PNC Park and Heinz Field so that the team owners can become uber rich. Another waste of taxpayer money.
Evidence? What evidence have you provided? Oh yes. "Most people you know." Very persuasive. I won't read, or respond to, any of your future posts on this subject. You convinced me.
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Statewide Rails To Trails brings 930 million into the state's economy.
https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/study-rail-trails-inject-930m-annually-into-state-economy/
And this supports your post.
Study: Great Allegheny Passage is 'an economic highway' that generated $121 million in 2019
Bob Batz Jr.
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Nov 30, 2021
6:05 AM
The Great Allegheny Passage not only connects Pittsburgh with Cumberland, Md., but also connects businesses and governments along the entire 150-mile trail with tens of millions of dollars per year.
A new study that Pittsburgh consulting firm Fourth Economy did with the Great Allegheny Passage Conservancy reports that tourism along the trail created an economic impact in 2019 of more than $121 million.
That figure “translates to over $800,000 per mile,” Fourth Economy senior consultant Mickey McGlasson stated in a news release. “It looks like a scenic trail, but for the communities along the way, that’s an economic highway.”
GAP Conservancy Executive Director Bryan Perry says that not only does that show residents, small businesses and their employees in “trail towns” are continuing to benefit, but also that the initial $80 million infrastructure investment and continuing investment in, and volunteer support of, the trail are worthwhile.
The report, which the conservancy released on Tuesday, did note that most businesses — 70% of those surveyed — lost revenue in 2020 due to the COVID pandemic, even though trail usage was estimated to be up about 50% to an estimated 1.5 million users. Mr. Perry expects tourism spending on overnight stays, food and the like to rebound. Of the 2019 economic impact, he said, “I think it lends value to the retirees who opened businesses along the trail who now wish to sell them” to the next generation.
The trail, along former railroad rights-of-way through the Laurel Highlands, was constructed between 1978 and 2013, when the final “gap” between Pittsburgh and McKeesport at Sandcastle was completed. The GAP connects to Washington via the 150-mile C&O Canal Towpath.
Growing numbers of people who come from every state and more than 35 countries to bike and hike along this route drove others to open businesses to cater to them ranging from bike shops to bistros and bed-and-breakfasts, in places that once were economically dependent on coal and coke, lumber and paper and other manufacturing.
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For what Pittsburgh paid (or the tax payers) they could've had a domed stadium. It's okay to freeze your azz off in college, which I can't really remember.
This macho BS of freezing is horse crap.
Lemonears, hugh a amounts of tax payers fund the building of sporting arenas across this nation in the promise of an economic return.
I'd rather see bike paths along roads in lieu of trying to avoid running down cyclists on local and rural roads. Aside of 10 yrs working for Bechtel Power Corp., the company I started my career, Michael Baker, and the current company I work, perform consultant contracts for Penn DOT .
I always thought that the " Rails for Trails" programs which are partially if not total state funded is a great concept.
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Read PSUJAM....POST #26:
"Rep. Mike Carroll, D-Luzerne, the ranking Democrat on the House Transportation Committee, told a House hearing last month that the sprawling expanse of Pennsylvania's highways and state roads has not kept lawmakers from peeling off almost half of the gas tax revenue for other purposes.
That includes 12 cents a gallon to the state police budget, 8 cents a gallon to local governments, 3 cents a gallon to the Mon-Fayette Expressway's Southern Beltway in southwestern Pennsylvania and 3 cents a gallon to the Department of Agriculture and other state agencies.
“Nearly half of the gasoline tax that we collect does not go to PennDOT's responsibility with respect to roads and bridges," Carroll said."
For the cyclists.... 
SWOOPING SEASON
The magpie bird is about as common in Australia as pigeons are in Europe or the U.S. Magpies are considered one of the smartest animals in the world, and they can be just as irritating as pigeons. During the magpie’s breeding season (or mating period), the birds are extremely agitated, which means they are dangerous and more likely to attack people.
The breeding season, which usually takes place between the months of August to October, is also known as swooping season since the birds swoop to the ground and attack innocent passersby. Their intentions aren’t malicious – they’re simply acting on paternal instincts, trying to protect their nests. As a way to avoid the potential swooping, cyclists around the country usually wear protective helmets during the magpie breeding season, to fend off the birds.
SWOOPING SEASON
The magpie bird is about as common in Australia as pigeons are in Europe or the U.S. Magpies are considered one of the smartest animals in the world, and they can be just as irritating as pigeons. During the magpie’s breeding season (or mating period), the birds are extremely agitated, which means they are dangerous and more likely to attack people.
The breeding season, which usually takes place between the months of August to October, is also known as swooping season since the birds swoop to the ground and attack innocent passersby. Their intentions aren’t malicious – they’re simply acting on paternal instincts, trying to protect their nests. As a way to avoid the potential swooping, cyclists around the country usually wear protective helmets during the magpie breeding season, to fend off the birds.
So Lady Liberty was a bike rider? I had no idea.For the cyclists....
SWOOPING SEASON
The magpie bird is about as common in Australia as pigeons are in Europe or the U.S. Magpies are considered one of the smartest animals in the world, and they can be just as irritating as pigeons. During the magpie’s breeding season (or mating period), the birds are extremely agitated, which means they are dangerous and more likely to attack people.
The breeding season, which usually takes place between the months of August to October, is also known as swooping season since the birds swoop to the ground and attack innocent passersby. Their intentions aren’t malicious – they’re simply acting on paternal instincts, trying to protect their nests. As a way to avoid the potential swooping, cyclists around the country usually wear protective helmets during the magpie breeding season, to fend off the birds.
Who knew bicycle paths would elicit such passionate debate? I must say, I am a little disappointed... at the lack of personal attacks.
+100. The Bike lanes around here in Bmore and Harford county are awesome.
Plus if they are rail trails that money comes from fundraising.
From a discussion about a bridge collapse to vitriol about bicycles. Just another day on the McA board.
LolFrom a discussion about a bridge collapse to vitriol about bicycles. Just another day on the McA board.
Obviously not in the city but tons of townships in WPA have built parks, rec centers, bike trails etc with money from gas leases. I would assume at least part of the city ones are through Grant's or something as well
From a discussion about a bridge collapse to vitriol about bicycles. Just another day on the McA board.
Actually there wasn't any animosity between posters. It was rather refreshing. Now, what is truly shocking is all the shots at politicians that managed to survive. It warms my heart to see such unity survive.
They don’t pay road taxes which is ironic since bike lanes are paid using road funds.
Bike lanes are not, how many of you are bold enough to get on the road in traffic riding a bike?! You must have a death wish given how people drive. When we were kids we rode bikes everywhere and we didn't have bike lanes. It's just not the same anymore.
I thought they'd separate the bus into halves then move it but it's likely they didn't feel comfortable having mechanics working on a steep incline in cold weather. I give them credit for getting a crane in place so quickly to start the clean up.
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