OT: Country Music Mt. Rushmore....?

Tgar

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So Many to choose from but let’s go with these folks:

Willie
Chris Stapleton
The Rolling Stones
Lucinda Williams

There are literally hundreds to choose from, actually thousands, and this guy could replace anybody above. Some of my favorite Country is sung by Neil Young, The Grateful Dead and the Beatles but here is a deep dive into what the hell it’s all about for you to enjoy:

 

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They actually have an early 1960s San Francisco sound. solid.
They are brilliant. This one is my fav tour songs ever.
“When the good times are over, they’re all over,
and I’ve been all over getting these good times.”
 
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If we're only picking four:

Hank Williams
Patsy Cline
Waylon Jennings
Johnny Cash

Honorable Mention:

Willie Nelson
Merle Haggard
Loretta Lynn
Dolly Parton
George Jones
Having lived in Winchester, VA a few years, I have to agree Patsy Cline belongs on the list.
 
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So Many to choose from but let’s go with these folks:

Willie
Chris Stapleton
The Rolling Stones
Lucinda Williams

There are literally hundreds to choose from, actually thousands, and this guy could replace anybody above. Some of my favorite Country is sung by Neil Young, The Grateful Dead and the Beatles but here is a deep dive into what the hell it’s all about for you to enjoy:


The Rolling Stones? They are British.
 

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Good that some included the Carter family. But no mentions of Jimmie Rodgers, Bob Wills, or Bill Monroe? Jeesh.
If we're talking Mount Rushmore then we're talking about foundational and fundamentally transformational people. Washington and Jefferson are the foundational, and Lincoln and Roosevelt (I would argue this one) are transformational figures on the actual Mount Rushmore. Same with my selections to answer the question in the OP; Williams and Cline (less so overall, but much more so for females) are the foundational, and Cash and Jennings are the transformational. One could argue that without Hank and Patty there would be no C/W music like we now know it, and Johnny and Waylon really brought forward the 'outlaw' mentality and attitude that helped bring C/W into the mainstream.

A lot of the other acts mentioned, Strait for example, came along way later and picked up where others left off. Most of these performers were/are neither foundational nor transformational. I would say something similar regarding Bob Wills and Bill Monroe; they were really of different genres, Texas Swing and Bluegrass. Their work, particularly Monroe, has had significant influence on C/W.

The original Carter family and Jimmie Rodgers are foundational, good point. One can easily argue that there would be no Hank Williams without the work of Mr. Rodgers, Cline's work is tied to the Carter family women, etc. Not many around that know of or remember them these days, but they were very important. Of course, the same can now be said of Roy Acuff, Chet Atkins, Doc Watson, Carl Perkins, Lefty Frizzell, Ray Price, Audrey Sheppard, Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Flatt, Scruggs, Eddie Arnold, and many many more. But there's only so much room on Mt. Rushmore.
 

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Good topic, and nice thread to read the varied opinions. Also a hard topic because there are so many subgenres within country music.... my picks would be:

Hank Williams- seems to me that every singer that has been successful has paid tribute to the original Hank, his Cadillac, and his music
Johnny Cash- the Man in Black has one of the most quickly recognizable voices, a ton of hits, and legendary status even among the legends themselves
George Strait- 60 number 1 songs, and still going strong. That's hard to argue with for anyone. And, he does it with different styles within the genre.
Patsy Cline- I started to go with Loretta Lynn, but Patsy was a big influence on Lynn, so I went with the original. Imagine if Patsy had not died early....

So many honorable mentions that it is crazy to even begin naming them..... Haggard, Nelson, Dolly, Loretta, Carters, Waylon, the Possum, Reba, Jimmie Rogers, Conway, Acuff and Owens..... the list can go on for a long time. And that is not even diving into "newer" singers like Garth, Alan Jackson, Stapleton, Brooks and Dunn....
 
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If we're going there, how about these guys?



Buck Owens used to say that he made more in royalties from the Beatles covering that song than from his own original recordings.

Oh, some of their early covers are just classic. If you ever get the chance to see Ringo live you can just he loves the feel of that style of music. BTW, I mentioned the Beatles above as well.

John Mayer does the genre in a credible fashion with Dead and Company. The Grateful Dead themselves were totally excellent with the Bakersfield sound on Workingman‘s Dead. So much great country music and so much lousy country music. This is tasty.

 
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Good topic, and nice thread to read the varied opinions. Also a hard topic because there are so many subgenres within country music.... my picks would be:

Hank Williams- seems to me that every singer that has been successful has paid tribute to the original Hank, his Cadillac, and his music
Johnny Cash- the Man in Black has one of the most quickly recognizable voices, a ton of hits, and legendary status even among the legends themselves
George Strait- 60 number 1 songs, and still going strong. That's hard to argue with for anyone. And, he does it with different styles within the genre.
Patsy Cline- I started to go with Loretta Lynn, but Patsy was a big influence on Lynn, so I went with the original. Imagine if Patsy had not died early....

So many honorable mentions that it is crazy to even begin naming them..... Haggard, Nelson, Dolly, Loretta, Carters, Waylon, the Possum, Reba, Jimmie Rogers, Conway, Acuff and Owens..... the list can go on for a long time. And that is not even diving into "newer" singers like Garth, Alan Jackson, Stapleton, Brooks and Dunn....

I put Dolly on mine because she’s a tremendous songwriter in addition to being an outstanding, and trailblazing performer. Johnny Cash too. Strait is a favorite but not a songwriter.

My favorite contemporary country artist is Teddy Thompson (though British and the son of Richard and Linda Thompson); he does some great Leonard Cohen covers too…



 
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For me:

Hank
Dolly
Johnny Cash
Bill Monoe
Waylon Jennings

There are so many greats but to me these are the difference makers
Bill Monroe, the father of Bluegrass. While their are many subsets of country music, Bluegrass seems to stand on its own as its own form of music Which in turn has spawned its own lines of music as well. Hard to pick four in ” country” hard to pick four in “ Bluegrass”.
 
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I put Dolly on mine because she’s a tremendous songwriter in addition to being an outstanding, and trailblazing performer. Johnny Cash too. Strait is a favorite but not a songwriter.

My favorite contemporary country artist is Teddy Thompson (though British and the son of Richard and Linda Thompson); he does some great Leonard Cohen covers too…




Good list, and I could not argue with it. I give singers a pass on songwriting simply because I think it takes someone special to take someone else's written lyrics and sing it to make everyone else feel it. That's not a knock on song writers, as without them, it would be a very boring world. Takes a great artist to write a great song, but without the right, equally great artist to deliver it correctly, it doesn't ever shine. Those that can do both are really great.

Enjoyed the Teddy Thompson songs... thanks for the add.
 
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George Strait, George Jones, Jonny Cash and Garth Brooks. Garth edges out Hank at honorable mention. Garth completely changed country music and brought it mainstream.

I don’t understand inclusion of Willie Nelson. Popular? Yes. Rebel? Yes. Good singer? IMO…no. Again…just my opinion
 

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George Strait, George Jones, Jonny Cash and Garth Brooks. Garth edges out Hank at honorable mention. Garth completely changed country music and brought it mainstream.

I don’t understand inclusion of Willie Nelson. Popular? Yes. Rebel? Yes. Good singer? IMO…no. Again…just my opinion
The great singers, storytellers, communicators and visionaries of any form of music have one thing in common. They can make every person in the audience feel as if the singer is directing all of his his or her attention at them. Willie can do this.

I have had the good fortune to see Willie more times than I can remember, from a small outdoor picnic pavilion in Kempton Pennsylvania at the base of a Hawk Mountain to opening for the Grateful Dead. He pulls it off every time. They seem reachable.

Adele has this, as does Bruce, Van Morrison is a no. Dylan is a no, you go see Bob for other reasons and know what to expect. Billy Joel, yes, Paul, Yes, on and on it Goes.

I am not a fan of Country Lite Garth Brooks but he sure makes everyone in the crowd feel like he is singing directly to them. It’s remarkable how he can do that in a Football Stadium. While their voices may be different, their ability to deliver the personal moment to their loving fans is very much the same.

I have been To hundreds if not thousands of shows at this point in my life of all genres of music, Classical, Pop, Opera, Pops, Rock, Jazz, Blues, Country, Bluegrass, Punk, Classic Rock, Funk, Rap, jam Band, Jam Grass, jazz Grass, on and on, most of the great ones make you leave feeling they were singing to you.

A few, Van Morrison, Dylan, etc. just overwhelm you with their talent and library of great songs. I have never experienced the singing to me sensation but loved those concerts all the same.
 

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George Strait, George Jones, Jonny Cash and Garth Brooks. Garth edges out Hank at honorable mention. Garth completely changed country music and brought it mainstream.

I don’t understand inclusion of Willie Nelson. Popular? Yes. Rebel? Yes. Good singer? IMO…no. Again…just my opinion

Well, being a great singer isn’t the only criteria. Willie just has ‘it’.
 
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George Strait, George Jones, Jonny Cash and Garth Brooks. Garth edges out Hank at honorable mention. Garth completely changed country music and brought it mainstream.

I don’t understand inclusion of Willie Nelson. Popular? Yes. Rebel? Yes. Good singer? IMO…no. Again…just my opinion
No comparison.
Garth with the typical country godawful sings-through-his-nose twang.
Willie with a unique voice of experience.
 
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Bill Monroe, the father of Bluegrass. While their are many subsets of country music, Bluegrass seems to stand on its own as its own form of music Which in turn has spawned its own lines of music as well. Hard to pick four in ” country” hard to pick four in “ Bluegrass”.
That is why I selected Bill. Bill created a genre of county music. Maybe bluegrass has pushed far enough away. My thinking was how formative Monroe was.
 
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Probably not for Mount Rushmore, but Marty Stewart hasn't been mentioned. One of my favorites along with Dwight Yoakum.
 
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I know there is no one right answer so I won't say that anyone is right or wrong. I do think something should be said for longevity. Willie Nelson has been putting out great country music for a long time, so while I understand that others may have been more influential, his longevity has exposed him to a much larger audience than many of the others.

As far as transformational, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Alabama (maybe someone has, I didn't read all of the posts). Alabama changed country music
 

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I know there is no one right answer so I won't say that anyone is right or wrong. I do think something should be said for longevity. Willie Nelson has been putting out great country music for a long time, so while I understand that others may have been more influential, his longevity has exposed him to a much larger audience than many of the others.

As far as transformational, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Alabama (maybe someone has, I didn't read all of the posts). Alabama changed country music
I look ay Waylon and Willie as kind of the same. they were the big influence to pull out of the machine of Nashville, so I think you pick one or the other.
 

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I look ay Waylon and Willie as kind of the same. they were the big influence to pull out of the machine of Nashville, so I think you pick one or the other.
I don't disagree that Waylon and Willie are very similar. So if they are essentially the same I pick Willie due to his longevity.
 
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