While I appreciate the inference that trans people having rights is a feature of a legitimate republic, no, I don't think Algerian society is supportive of trans people at any level beyond the privacy of their own home - if even that.
A bit intersex? So you admit she’s not a woman just like I do. Glad we agree.
I think the obsession here is more around protecting women from mentally ill dudes, but I'm just spitballin'.
This is the exact thought process that has led to where we are today. Continue to minimize one minor incident after another. It will eventually affect your life- it may not be today, hell it may not be in the next 10 years. But if we continue to allow insanity there will be consequences for you and/or your children.
The country is really democratic, and they are soft on a lot of issues most other Islamic nations are not because they are in the process of joining the EU. You are right most of their population are probably against it, but the Government is going to do what it needs to do to get in.
I'm not familiar with that particular syndrome, but there have been cases in female track athletes with unusually high testosterone production (in particular Caster Semenya of South Africa, whom lots of people on this board also insisted was secretly a man or transgender) being required to take drugs to lower their testosterone levels down in order to compete.
No matter what he/she identifies as, the presence of Y chromosomes, even if a rare XXY person or one who has some XX and some XY chromosomes (we're talking about maybe 1% of the population), is by definition a male.
You already went to a mental health professional and this is what they suggested saying as your look at yourself in the mirror? Man that's cool I'm proud of you.
oh for 17s sake.
But this isn't a case of transgender issues to begin with. There's no "minor incident" to minimize.
You’re using that “mental health professional“ talk on people who you disagree with about actual people who need mental health professionals. It’s not sane for one to think they’re a different sex anymore than someone thinking they’re an entirely different species of animal.
Exactly. It's amazing to watch folks twist themselves in pretzels over when to cite science versus when to deny it.
You seem to be very invested in this one instance and seem to have inside knowledge that others don’t have.
Maybe it could be more of a discussion than an argument? Maybe there's more to this than what we know from a couple tweets? And maybe lots and lots of people acting in good faith balanced your (legit) concerns with fairness to all participants, and this was the outcome? Or maybe the other athlete got completely robbed - I don't know! And frankly women's boxing just is not on my radar in any way.
I have a non binary nephew so the trans/LGBTQ community isn’t some foreign thing to me. If you want to be that way I have no problem with it. You be you but I draw the line on things that create a competitive advantage.
I was expecting an actual rebuttal. This is weak, man. Pretty standard response though for the modern day liberal. You can’t counter with facts so you go straight for insults.
Sounds like we're probably 99% in agreement.
Allowing men to compete as women isn't progressivism, it's denial of reality. I and, I think, most others who consider themselves progressive think men in women's sports is insanity.
What are you saying is "Kinda Weird"? Why Do male athletes not take estrogen for a competitive advantage and female athletes have restrictions on testosterone? What's the difference between this Algerian boxer and not allowing female athletes to juice?
The athlete in question is from Algeria, on of the most anti-LGBT countries in the world.
Except it's not fake news. The Algerian boxer was banned from IBF championships because he is a male with the Y chromosome.
While I believe your post is sincere, and you personally may feel this way, reality is beginning to say otherwise. The current administration’s policies are in complete contradiction to “most progressives think men in sports is insanity”. Biden’s rewrite of Title IX went into affect today.
Whoa, now! Let's not let facts get in the way of a good argument.
The "ban" was reversed after further testing.
It is clearly evident that this thread kind of acts as a microcosm of the wider population and their cognitive dissonance (hypocrisy?). One post was spot on that one side seems to selectively rely on science (male/female is social while global warming is real or vise versa for the other side). Conversely, there is the crowd that says I draw the line at anything that creates a competitive advantage in something meaningless like sports, but I see no problem with things that cause a real competitive advantage in real life such as growing up in a stable home or even one with a 10 million dollar trust fund. That kid clearly has the same opportunity to make it as a kid who grew up with one parent working a minimum wage job. But I hate a competitive advantage! Sure you do.
So you think it’s hypocritical to point out it’s wrong for biological men to compete against women in sports because there are people born with certain social and economic advantages over others?
