Does anyone else find humor in these 4-5 artist boycotting Spotify, not a single one of them is relevant? Maybe their management is using it as marketing. I consider myself a "music person" and I could go the rest of my life without hearing Neil Young or Graham Nash.
OT: Joe Rogan
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Neil Young is a giant hypocrite.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/neil-youngs-long-record-of-spreading-scientific-misinformation
https://www.thedailybeast.com/neil-youngs-long-record-of-spreading-scientific-misinformation
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Regardless of their relevancy to you or I, Spotify is/was relevant to them and they had the balls to forgo whatever that means to them for something they believe in. I can give them credit for what they did regardless of whether I agree with their stance or not. How ballsy it was it proportional to what they were actually making from the platform and I'm ignorant on that front.
Spotify is the one showing balls here in my opinion. Those “artists” have a thousand different ways to sell their music. If anything they gained attention for themselves because a majority of folks had to Google everyone but Young to see who in the hell they were.
Neil Young doesn’t even own the rights to his catalog. His stance was posturing at its finest. All he did was lose a **** load of money for whoever owns his masters.
Anyone listening to Joe Rogan for medical advice deserves what they get. Don't listen to him, go to a doctor and discuss it with them. That is all.
Anyone who entrusts their health and well being exclusively to the knowledge of their local doctor deserves what they get. Most family practice and internal medicine doctors know very little about virology and epidemiology.
The quality of a doctor is no different than the quality of an electrician or lawyer. Some are experts and some barely made it through school.
The quality of a doctor is no different than the quality of an electrician or lawyer. Some are experts and some barely made it through school.
Agreed. He's only one of many spreading false vaccine information that is literally killing people. Still their fault for being sucked into getting medical advice from a talk show host. It's just a shame that people like him have no moral compass at all.
You have a vastly different opinion than me. This day and age of arm twisting to silence what now hurts feelings is childish and idiotic. These people are clowns. Sad, crying, weak, pathetic, clowns.
Neil Young had a tour in 2006 called the “Free Speech Tour”. Remember that? How ironic. Now he wants to censor and silence.
“But it’s about misinformation!!!” They say. Bibbidy babbidy ********. Nope. There is misinformation on TV every day. Every single day. Every single hour. This is a podcast they are whining about.
It’s about this new demand that everything some weasel doesn’t like be cancelled. And it’s freaking pathetic. Along with the people involved in it.
But any doctor is better than Joe Rogan, no?
Joseph James Rogan (born August 11, 1967) is an American podcaster, Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) color commentator, comedian, actor, and former television presenter.
Joseph James Rogan (born August 11, 1967) is an American podcaster, Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) color commentator, comedian, actor, and former television presenter.
Joe Rogan has experts in their respective fields on his show. It’s not it’s just him riffing ad nauseam about random topics.
Nope
There are some real quacks out there. If you’ve never met or dealt with an idiot dr, congrats.
There are dr’s who agree with everything Joe says. There are some that disagree with everything he says. They can’t both be right.
There are some real quacks out there. If you’ve never met or dealt with an idiot dr, congrats.
There are dr’s who agree with everything Joe says. There are some that disagree with everything he says. They can’t both be right.
How exactly is it that he has no moral compass? Please explain that clearly. He had medical professionals and scientists on his show. He discussed what they believe. He discussed what he believes. What about that makes him immoral? If he actually believes what he is saying, then where is the problem? I’m not bashing you. It’s a serious question. It’s as if you don’t think medical professionals and normal every day people can disagree about the results of health data.
ETA: I’m not one of the people that believes Rogan’s views or my regular doctor. I review a lot of sources and ask questions. I just don’t think it’s fair to say he has no moral compass for having an opinion.
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The people who listen to Rogan that won’t get vaccinated weren’t going to get vaccinated regardless if he had every guest lined up promoting vaccines for the rest of the year. It’s a big deal about nothing.
Have you even listened to any of his podcasts? Before the Pandemic even hit the US in early March 2020 he had Dr Michael Osterholm who laid out what was about to happen. Osterholm is about as left as it comes and is/has been one of Biden’s advisers. Rogan has right/left/center guest including Sanjay Gupta.
Maybe, but he also has quacks. And he doesn't inform his audience as to which is which. So either you get misinformed, or you deep dive into each of his guests so as to know who to dismiss......and at that point what was the point of tuning in?
Some people just prefer to be misinformed. To have their **** repeated back to them. That's his audience, and he's at least smart enough to pander to it.
What do you mean “what’s the point of tuning in”? He has interesting topics that you may have not thought to read about if they weren’t discussed on his show.
So then after you listen to a point of view, like any self respecting adult, you take the time to form your own opinion outside of what you’ve heard. Not that complicated.
So then after you listen to a point of view, like any self respecting adult, you take the time to form your own opinion outside of what you’ve heard. Not that complicated.
Not everyone. His opinion was about as important as Rogan’s until he decided to join cancel culture.
^this. Part of the problem is Spotify has part owners that own music rights, who appear to be engaging in shenanigans to reduce payments to artists based on contracts written in the frigging 90s. They are literally selling the streaming rights to themselves, and have to pay a cut to the artists, so they lowball the sale amount to reduce the cut. This kind of arrangement was somewhat common in tv deals until recently some successful lawsuits made it more risky. See Walking Dead or Bull.
Spotify is out to make as many bucks as possible. Nothing wrong with that, except that they have no moral high ground to stand on. Boo hoo. Some potential customers will have a problem with that, and will vote with their feet.
Neil Young doesn't even own the music library that he demanded be removed from Spotify. Blackrock private equity firm owns it. Yes, the Blackrock that has been destroying neighborhoods since 2008 by buying up everything In sight and turning it into rental houses. Neil Young sold his library to a British company headed by Nile Rogers, who in turn flipped their company to Blackrock for a profit.
Garbage in, garbage out. If you listen to propaganda, it will skew your views, no matter how much you research it. Even when you know it's ********. That's why propaganda works. Everyone thinks they're the special snowflake that won't be the sucker in the con.
He airs con artists, and the answer is not to tell people to research it and spot the con. It's to not air the con artists.
Not to say contrarianism is bad, or old media is good. He just takes it too far and then doubles down on it instead of learning. Only a fool would listen.
Do you give credit to other people who stand up for what they believe in?
Like not taking a shot they don’t think they want or need?
Like not taking a shot they don’t think they want or need?
I’ve said this before here: Joe Rogan uses an excellent persona of interested amateur very well in his podcasts when he gets experts in all fields to be his guests.
He gets a lot of deserved kudos for doing that. It’s a great approach and makes the guests more accessible to his audience.
The problem comes when his behind the scenes production becomes amateurish and not at all professional (especially when it comes to vetting guests, e.g.). He’s received some criticism for his bookings before— this is just the latest and most outspoken.
The big question is: What lasts longer? This controversy or the Wordle fascination?
He gets a lot of deserved kudos for doing that. It’s a great approach and makes the guests more accessible to his audience.
The problem comes when his behind the scenes production becomes amateurish and not at all professional (especially when it comes to vetting guests, e.g.). He’s received some criticism for his bookings before— this is just the latest and most outspoken.
The big question is: What lasts longer? This controversy or the Wordle fascination?
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