I read the other day that making phones is still pretty labor intensive.
OT: Made in the USA
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This can't be stated enough. Even poor americans are better off than most of the world.
Gotcha. I never knew about that. That seems like an industry we should own. We invented it and we have gypsum.
Thats a good point. But you'd think that China would have enough stolen IP that someone else could start ripping off iphones!
The article I read in this did the size does matter. It makes it harder to automate.
I wouldn't expect you to realize how much more powerful an iphone is than a TV.
I think most of it is made in the USA but i'm sure someone saw an opportunity to buy some cheap stuff from China and rolled with it. Later to find out it was poison!!
I guarantee you i know more about technology and manufacturing than you do.
thats what i was thinking. Robots are great but the smaller size would require a lot of precision/accuracy.
Meh, I shouldn't have made it as a blanket statement. There are people who care about it. But a lot of people don't. It's similar to folks shopping for cars and only caring about what their monthly note will end up being. They're called suckers and they're born every day.
Do I have a problem with us getting product from China? No! I do though have a problem with them being our largest and critical provider of manufactured goods. That should be diversified for a couple of reasons. 1) negotiating space for better deals and quality 2) potentially gets us more friends in a very contentious part of the world.
It's not that I'm opposed to all moral arguments but sometimes I they don't matter to me (child labor, slave labor for instance). Let the Chinese and others decide whether their govt is appropriate or not. We're allies with the Saudis and Qataris, hardly angels, and we chose Russia and Putin over Ukraine. And China spends nowhere near what we do on their military. And I need to save money on buying products because my and my family's health and homeowners insurance with American companies, including American pharmaceutical companies keeps going up. I'll buy something Hecho en Mexico too if it saves me money and is a good product. An American-owned importer is profiting from that too.
Apple, an American company, truly cares for us.
I'm in Europe 2-3 times a year and their middle class lives well but with a lot less stuff. If I lived like them, one and no more than 2 cars per family, small house, tiny fridge and washer and dryer etc, I'd be really rich with the income I make in America.
Corporations require more profit than they did back when the middle class could afford to raise a family and have a mother in the house. Look at how much more executives make vs the average worker in their company.
It used to be CEO's made 60 times what their workers made. It is now 1,000 times more.
It cost a lot more to live than 20 years ago and wages haven't really gone up. That profit goes somewhere. Also amazingly enough, there are more billionaires in the US than any time in the history of the country. During Covid, over a Trillion dollars shifted to the top 1%. That was lost from everyone else.
That is such a great show.Don’t give Jin Yang from Silicon Valley any ideas.
I haven’t read this thread beyond this line but based on the fact that there are 60+ replies within two hours of posting, I think that ship has sailed
China is having fun with the memes showing fat Americans sewing emblems on tennis shoes. Manufacturing was increasing without all this tariff bluster (FYI, I'm no fan of Biden).
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I find it real annoying when folks try to hide behind "now I don't want to be political, but...". If you believe something, stand on it and accept that some people are going to disagree (and they could even be correct!).
"Should we make more things in the USA, and what will that mean?" is precisely a political question, and one that reasonable people can disagree on.
I agree with most of this but we didn't choose Russia and Putin. Two things can be true at once.
You can dislike Russia and Putin and want to end the war.
You can dislike Russia and Putin and dislike Ukraine and zelensky.
CEO's do make some jack. But those houses were small and typically had a lot less in them then we require today. You can still live that way today in a small home or trailer. Not sure if wifey's gonna go for that, though.
It actually hasn’t. It’s mostly economic theory and consumerism conversation.
Our baseball team is meh. That has a lot to do with it. There's only so much to say on a thread about "did you see where some portal player you never heard of at Northern Arizona State Technical College has State among the 5 schools he's considering next year?
The intellectual property angle isn't talked about enough. People scream free trade, but China doesn't play by the same rules as the free world. Limited original ideas and poaching tech is not allowed anywhere else, yet we are willing to ignore China doing exactly that to get cheap stuff. And then they implement it with child labor, which no free world country can do. Somebody has to be willing to force a correction toward true free trade and be the one everyone blames. Perhaps the ahole in office is OK being just that.
Can he catch a slider and hit above .250? Where is this golden god?
I'm o.k. with that but I dislike Putin, not Russia. Not sure why I should dislike Zelensky and Ukraine. They never really caused much trouble and are just defending themselves against a brutal conqueror. We excluded Russia from tariffs. That implies something to me along with other things the administration has done.
The one hill I will die on is we never need to import Coke from China. They put pee pee in it.
Yes, pretty much. Plus some tech, the development of which is mostly driven by capitalism. Damn capitalism and all the people not in grinding poverty anymore.
BTW, in mid-1950s around 25% of American homes had no indoor toilets, showers or bathtubs (my late father-in-law grew up in such a house in rural Arky), maybe 50% of homes had central heating, fewer than 5% had air conditioning, almost 30% had no car and 33% didn't have a TV. But those memes. Anyone who longs for the good old days has a bad memory
Yep, capitalism has brought much good. I'm for it! It is also at the core of many of the most intractable problems that keep us up at night.
So it goes.
I mean… they already kind of do. Then just sell them with the Android OS.