OT: National Park in Mississippi

[PooPopsBaldHead]

I guess you guys know more than people who have spent their careers in the park service. You have to love this board!

So you are saying we have to decide between a government employee and an SPS poster....

For the record, after consulting my handy dandy National Park passport. The Natchez Trace is a Parkway. Yellowstone is a National Park. The National Park Service manages over 400 sites that have all kinds of designations. But to put it simply all 400+ sites are "parks" but only 63 are National Parks. This is bureaucracy it its finest.***


If it was a National Park, it would have the NP behind it like Congaree.

 

[dorndawg]

So you are saying we have to decide between a government employee and an SPS poster....

For the record, after consulting my handy dandy National Park passport. The Natchez Trace is a Parkway. Yellowstone is a National Park. The National Park Service manages over 400 sites that have all kinds of designations. But to put it simply all 400+ sites are "parks" but only 63 are National Parks. This is bureaucracy it its finest.***


If it was a National Park, it would have the NP behind it like Congaree.
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Nice try with your "sources" and "documentation"

 

[AttalaDawg72]

So you are saying we have to decide between a government employee and an SPS poster....

For the record, after consulting my handy dandy National Park passport. The Natchez Trace is a Parkway. Yellowstone is a National Park. The National Park Service manages over 400 sites that have all kinds of designations. But to put it simply all 400+ sites are "parks" but only 63 are National Parks. This is bureaucracy it its finest.***


If it was a National Park, it would have the NP behind it like Congaree.
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You’re using logic and fact. He's not going to believe you.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

Nice try with your "sources" and "documentation"

I no where L4 is coming from. They all call wherever they are "park". We go to a National Monument that's closeby at least once a year on our way to Yellowstone and the kids go through junior ranger and scientist crap. It's always a park to the rangers.

 

[Darryl Steight]

I’ve been to the WWI museum in Kansas City and have been trying to get down to NOLA for WWII. A Civil War version in Vicksburg would be awesome.

The one in Nola is incredible. It started only as a D-Day Museum - I think because the Higgins boats that hit the shores of Normandy were designed in New Orleans. But it's grown so much over the years, now it's the official National WWII Museum. I want to go back as it's been a couple years now.

 

[L4Dawg]

The one in Nola is incredible. It started only as a D-Day Museum - I think because the Higgins boats that hit the shores of Normandy were designed in New Orleans. But it's grown so much over the years, now it's the official National WWII Museum. I want to go back as it's been a couple years now.

That's part of it. The biggest reason is that Steven Ambrose at UNO was the driving force behind the original museum.

 

[Darryl Steight]

That's part of it. The biggest reason is that Steven Ambrose at UNO was the driving force behind the original museum.

Makes sense. I just knew when it first opened, they had an actual Higgins Boat in there and that's what they were saying. I'm sure Ambrose was a huge part of it. I would guess he helped bring in Hanks and Spielberg as contributors too.

 

[Hail State]

Issaquena National Park
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Glacier National Park
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The Japanese are going to 17ing attack Pearl Harbor again if you trick them into visiting the Delta by putting a national park there. What are the tourists supposed to do, watch a 17ing bean sprout in plantin' season?

Holy crap. Early lead for post of the year.

 

[Hail State]

Delta National Forest is the largest and only primeval bottomland hardwood forest in the US.

 

[dorndawg]

Delta National Forest is the largest and only primeval bottomland hardwood forest in the US.

 

[615dawg]

I kind of wonder whether the interest in civil war attractions might die off. When I’ve been to Vicksburg, the average age of non-school groups appeared to be somewhere in the 70s to 120’s. I k ow a lot that is just people having more time when they’re retired, but didn’t know if some of it was due to the recency of the war. Always going to be some interest, but I think people that are in their 80’s or 90’s now, at least in the south, probably at one time referred to the north as ‘they/them’ and south as ‘we/us’ when discussing the civil war. Will some of that interest die off when we get more removed from it? Or is history history and going to have the same interest to the people inclined to it?

A well done museum like WW2 would create interest. The problem is every little town from Vicksburg to Gettysburg wants to do their own thing. There isn't a place where you can walk through the entire conflict, see artifacts from the entire War and immerse yourself for hours in the history. You go to Vicksburg, you learn about three weeks of the war. You go to Corinth and get a little more.

Vicksburg may not be the place for it, but it would be a finalist. All the little Civil War Society of random town in Virginia would have to get on board and its not happening.

 

[AttalaDawg72]

Delta National Forest is the largest and only primeval bottomland hardwood forest in the US.

It’s settled then. Delta National Forest will be expanded West until it touches the Mississippi River into Issaquena County. Issaquena National Park will be the new name. I wish the Japanese well.

 

[mcdawg22]

You believed what a woman said? #undefeated

If it was Leslie Knope I’d trust her. She knows THE Ron Swanson.

 

[mcdawg22]

So you are saying we have to decide between a government employee and an SPS poster....

For the record, after consulting my handy dandy National Park passport. The Natchez Trace is a Parkway. Yellowstone is a National Park. The National Park Service manages over 400 sites that have all kinds of designations. But to put it simply all 400+ sites are "parks" but only 63 are National Parks. This is bureaucracy it its finest.***


If it was a National Park, it would have the NP behind it like Congaree.
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[katfsh]

It’s settled then. Delta National Forest will be expanded West until it touches the Mississippi River into Issaquena County. Issaquena National Park will be the new name. I wish the Japanese well.

Can I continue to live in said national park?

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

All of Mississippi is a wonderful place. I haven't lived there since 2007, but I have been up and down the trace from one end to the other, and I think it is a great place to start building something today. I think it cuts a great path through the state where you would experience many parts of Mississippi, except the Pine Belt and the coastal area. I know it has something to do with the park service, but I'm not sure whether it is considered a national park. Many people do not like traveling that slowly, but I enjoyed every trip I took on the Natchez Trace, especially in the Northern part that ends near Nashville. The last time I came to Mississippi, I drove along the Trace from Jackson to Highway Eight. It was a good, reminiscent trip.

 

[AttalaDawg72]

Can I continue to live in said national park?

Of course my Delta brethren

 

[patdog]

A well done museum like WW2 would create interest. The problem is every little town from Vicksburg to Gettysburg wants to do their own thing. There isn't a place where you can walk through the entire conflict, see artifacts from the entire War and immerse yourself for hours in the history. You go to Vicksburg, you learn about three weeks of the war. You go to Corinth and get a little more.

Vicksburg may not be the place for it, but it would be a finalist. All the little Civil War Society of random town in Virginia would have to get on board and its not happening.

I think Vicksburg would be the perfect place for it. The war was won and lost in Vicksburg. When it fell, it was just a matter of time.

 

[hdogg]

No, she isn't. The park service considers all of the various designations, not just the "national parks," to be part of the National Park system. Now if you want to die on the hill of semantics, go right ahead.

It has the same insanely beyond comprehension slloooow speed limits of all the other national parks, so that has to count for something

 

[L4Dawg]

I think Vicksburg would be the perfect place for it. The war was won and lost in Vicksburg. When it fell, it was just a matter of time.

The war was won and lost at FortS Henry and Donnellson. The South never recovered from the cracking of the western defense line.

 

[leeinator]

I’ve never been there, but heard about it.

Great place. Fun boat ride out to Fort Massachusetts. Good way to spend a summer day with some nice waves on the south side of the island. It's my favorite place in Mississippi.

 

[She Mate Me]

I don't know what "unaffected" technically means, but I do know about undamned. I's a big deal out west because of the salmon/steelhead migrations

The Pascagoula River is only 80 miles long. The Salmon River is the longest undamned river in the western US at 425 miles and the home of the longest salmon migration in the US. The Yellowstone River is the longest in the east and thus lower 48 at 692 miles long. When talking east and west in rivers we are talking continental divide or whether the water ends up in the Pacific or Atlantic/Gulf.

It's not the length of the Pascagoula that's impressive (length is a function of what portions of rivers we decide to give a particular name anyway), it's the overall watershed that it drains. Quite a bit of water meandering through those swampy wetlands.

And there are definitely beautiful things to be seen. Massive Cypress trees and haunting swamps and oxbow lakes. Just mostly impossible to get to without more struggle than tourists typically like.

Also a vital spawning ground for the Gulf Sturgeon.

From the National Wildlife Federation...

"In a 1994 study of rivers in the northern third of the world, the journal Science identified this undammed, unlevied, undredged vestige as the largest free-flowing river system in the lower 48 states. Naturalist and Pulitzer Prize-winning author Edward O. Wilson, who grew up in nearby Mobile, Alabama, says places like the Pascagoula “are the closest thing the southeastern United States has to wilderness.”

 

[Villagedawg]

If you had to choose a place in Mississippi to turn into a National Park where would you choose? I would have to say somewhere in the Delta where you could incorporate natural landscape (Forrest/Swamp/River) with cultural history. Considering the Delta is dying and needs something would this work?

The answer is so obvious. Our national treasure. Elvis Presley Birthplace National Park***

 

[bolddogge]

It’s settled then. Delta National Forest will be expanded West until it touches the Mississippi River into Issaquena County. Issaquena National Park will be the new name. I wish the Japanese well.

Or we could just cut a logging road down the middle of it and call it the Issaquena National Parkway and L4 could say we have 2 national parks!

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

Why no mention of Holly Springs National Forest?

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

This summer my wife and I went Grand Teton and Yellowstone. We also spent 4 days at a dude ranch in Bridger Teton National Forest. The national parks were great but crowded. The national Forest we saw more animals, did more exploring, and had some great vistas and less than 50 people.

 

[bolddogge]

This summer my wife and I went Grand Teton and Yellowstone. We also spent 4 days at a dude ranch in Bridger Teton National Forest. The national parks were great but crowded. The national Forest we saw more animals, did more exploring, and had some great vistas and less than 50 people.

I love that part of the country. I told the wife the first year when we retire we're taking the RV there when they open Yellowstone up for the spring and staying the whole season. We might have to move from one campground to another, but we'll be in that general area for the summer.

 

[dorndawg]

I love that part of the country. I told the wife the first year when we retire we're taking the RV there when they open Yellowstone up for the spring and staying the whole season. We might have to move from one campground to another, but we'll be in that general area for the summer.

Most of the time I'm at least a little let down by attractions, but Yellowstone (and especially for me, Tetons) not only live up to the hype but exceed them. If a person is ever on the fence about visiting there, I can guarantee you won't regret it.

 

[maroontide06]

Great place. Fun boat ride out to Fort Massachusetts. Good way to spend a summer day with some nice waves on the south side of the island. It's my favorite place in Mississippi.

You better get someone with a center console bay boat to get you out there. If not, you would have to take the Excursion and be stuck out there all day. It's a good place to visit, but if you can avoid the Excursion and get out there in a regular boat, it's worth the trip.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I love that part of the country. I told the wife the first year when we retire we're taking the RV there when they open Yellowstone up for the spring and staying the whole season. We might have to move from one campground to another, but we'll be in that general area for the summer.

We stayed nights south, west and east of Yellowstone. We also went to Gardiner in the north. You could easily spends 3 or 4 months there and see amazing things. We left on the east side and the drive to Cody, Wyoming was spectacular and unexpected.

 

[FormerBully]

All of Mississippi is a wonderful place. I haven't lived there since 2007, but I have been up and down the trace from one end to the other, and I think it is a great place to start building something today. I think it cuts a great path through the state where you would experience many parts of Mississippi, except the Pine Belt and the coastal area. I know it has something to do with the park service, but I'm not sure whether it is considered a national park. Many people do not like traveling that slowly, but I enjoyed every trip I took on the Natchez Trace, especially in the Northern part that ends near Nashville. The last time I came to Mississippi, I drove along the Trace from Jackson to Highway Eight. It was a good, reminiscent trip.

When I have to go to Jackson from Tupelo for work, I take the trace. It is relaxing and peaceful. The section right before Jackson around the lake is beautiful. The only bad thing is if you got to go pee, you have to just find a trail and take care of business.

 

[FormerBully]

I think at one time the most visited tourist spot in Mississippi was Elvis' Birthplace in Tupelo. I don't know about now. I did a cursory search and couldn't find any list by visits. I do know it gets kind of crazy at times around birth and death week. You would be really surprised at the number of Brits and other Europeans who go there. There a lot of Japanese too. I lived down the street from Milam school for a few months a while back. They used to block off the street for the tour buses. I remember seeing nine bus loads of Japanese there once. This was a long time before the Toyota plant. The tours go to Graceland and then come to Tupelo.

I work downtown Tupelo, and it blows my mind the number of international visitors the city gets. I will sometimes grab lunch in front of city hall from the food trucks and it seems to be someone there regularly taking a photo with his statue.

 

[Villagedawg]

I work downtown Tupelo, and it blows my mind the number of international visitors the city gets. I will sometimes grab lunch in front of city hall from the food trucks and it seems to be someone there regularly taking a photo with his statue.

I sat next to a family of 4 from the UK last week at Johnnies. They waited until the "Elvis Booth" was open and moved over to it. I heard them order a Johnnie burger to split 4 ways because they were scared of it while I scarfed down three myself.

 

[MagnoliaHunter]

There are only 63 sites with the “National Park” designation. MS has none.

List of national parks of the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Well, in the link I posted, the US National Park service, under Parks, has 10 listed for MS. I'll go with the National Park Service over Wikipedia or SPS experts.

Mississippi (U.S. National Park Service)

Mississippi

www.nps.gov

 

[FormerBully]

I sat next to a family of 4 from the UK last week at Johnnies. They waited until the "Elvis Booth" was open and moved over to it. I heard them order a Johnnie burger to split 4 ways because they were scared of it while I scarfed down three myself.

Me and my daughter were eating there back in December and a couple from the UK came in and waited for the Elvis booth. The husband orders a burger, but the wife asked about a salad. Someone next to them spoke up and said, "mam there are great places to get a salad in Tupelo, but I would stick with a burger or something fried here." haha

 

[AttalaDawg72]

Or we could just cut a logging road down the middle of it and call it the Issaquena National Parkway and L4 could say we have 2 national parks!

That’ll work!

Me and my daughter were eating there back in December and a couple from the UK came in and waited for the Elvis booth. The husband orders a burger, but the wife asked about a salad. Someone next to them spoke up and said, "mam there are great places to get a salad in Tupelo, but I would stick with a burger or something fried here." haha

They should’ve told them to shut up and get the burger. It would’ve been life changing for her considering how much of an abomination food in the UK is.

 

[TimberBeast]

I would say upgrade the Gulf Islands National Seashore to a national park.

I live right around the corner and go there a lot. I would love to see them do some upgrades out there, I saw a few weeks ago they are finally rebuilding the walkway that goes down the bayou. BUT, I wouldn't want them to do anything to bring a lot more people in town, at least not right now. Ocean Springs can't handle the traffic we already have on a daily basis.

 

[L4Dawg]

I sat next to a family of 4 from the UK last week at Johnnies. They waited until the "Elvis Booth" was open and moved over to it. I heard them order a Johnnie burger to split 4 ways because they were scared of it while I scarfed down three myself.

My Dad used to force us to go to Johnnies when I was a kid. Back then I hated it. I haven't been back since then. I need to try it again sometime. Your tastes can change over the years.

 

[L4Dawg]

That’ll work!

They should’ve told them to shut up and get the burger. It would’ve been life changing for her considering how much of an abomination food in the UK is.

Food in the UK is dramatically underrated. Some of the best meals I have ever had were there. Seafood on the west coast of Scotland in particular is out of this world.

 

[L4Dawg]

Or we could just cut a logging road down the middle of it and call it the Issaquena National Parkway and L4 could say we have 2 national parks!

We actually have 10.