If it were me in that position, I think I’d probably just do my best to kick out the window, and depressurize the sub, and die a quick and painless death on the bottom of the ocean than sit down there for 3 days and suffocate. But then again, you wouldn’t catch me down there in the first place.
OT: Titanic submersible
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If you are going to do that just wait until everyone goes to sleep and kill them. Extend the air for yourself.
Would not be surprised if/when it’s found that it imploded.
Unfortunately, you aren’t kicking out a window designed to hold back 6,000 psi of pressure. If it didn’t implode on the way down, a slow painful death is your only option unless you convince one of your equally doomed buddies to strangle you.
I’ll take that smell any day versus the smell an hour after the first one of them expires.
Damn Glory.....That's a little serial killerish. Glad we're not friends/neighbors.
Ha no kidding. Imagine actually doing that and then they find you before you die with 4 or 5 people you murdered… that would be my luck.
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I bet you could take the other 3 out with one punch blindfolded
Nobody has mentioned pressure. Atmospheric change occurs every 33 feet in the great blue. Even if they were found, could they be rescued in time? Deep sea welders take days to resurface and these half-wits (they PAID to go deep in a plastic container) are over 2 miles under.
If the submarine is pressure tight, that isn't an issue. You keep the internal pressure @ or near atmospheric. At least that's the way we did it on the nuclear subs I served on.
They should have "Night Lock" pills/injections available for extremely high risk dangerous journeys to the ocean or space deeps. Just in case, the inevitable becomes evident. Rather than suffocating or burning up, it would be much easier to just go to sleep quickly and on to the next life.
Nobody is welding anything that deep, and you couldn't get them out without killing them anyway. The only rescue is to bring the sub to the surface.
Resin impregnated into carbon fiber under vacuum curing process. Same thing a lot of golf club and fishing shafts are made out of. Much lighter than steel and almost as strong, but as you say, it does deaden sound or vibration more than steel would. I've done a lot of work with carbon/resin composites and it's a wonderful technological material. Lots of plane parts are made from it as well.
I was just saying if you were going to do that. "You" as in "him" being the key. I did not say if I was going to that. However, I doubt not too many people has the strength to kick the window out or open the hatch that deep under water.
Just telling you what the man said 6 months ago. Here's the video. It's an interesting watch, especially now.
Submersible to the Titanic
ETA: I went back and found where he discusses losing communication on one of the dives. This starts at about 7:30 in.
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They put the bolts on the outside because it is way more likely that someone from the inside would open the door in a panic and kill all of them. Going into deep water screws with people's minds, regardless of how much they did or didn't train for that situation.
Nope, saw a video of it yesterday, it is a gaming controller. The "CEO" was showing it off and tossed it off to the side and mentioned it was made to be abused by 16 yr old boys playing games. They have 3 on board total
Its actually 2 layers of titanium wrapped in carbon fiber is what they said in the video I saw yesterday
It’s not 19,000 psi.
P (psi) = height (in ft) x Specific Gravity / 2.31
Height is 13,000 ft. SG is 1.025 for ocean water. Pressure in psi from the seawater is 5,768 psi. You can ignore atmospheric pressure because it’s counterbalanced by the internal pressure of the submersible
I suspect that this video is going to hammer the CEO. I'm sure the participants signed all sorts of releases and agreed to arbitration, but I'd be scared as hell of a fact finder seeing the CEO imply that they hired for anything other than expertise.
Didn't say it wasn't a video controller. Was saying I didn't find it to be all that unusual since nuclear subs use joysticks now.
I was wondering what this "tour" cost and found this article....pretty interesting
Ocean Gate CEO statement in Nov 2022:
“At some point, safety just is pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed,” he said. “Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything. At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question. I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules.”
Ocean Gate CEO statement in Nov 2022:
“At some point, safety just is pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed,” he said. “Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything. At some point, you’re going to take some risk, and it really is a risk/reward question. I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules.”
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Controller linked by bluetooth, no less. As many times as my bluetooth devices lose pairing, and sometimes refuse to re-pair . . . no thank.
So, they've detected "banging noises" and are bringing in vehicles that theoretically might have a chance of bringing this thing up from 13,000 ft. So, maybe there's a chance. Still very long odds though. Got to actually find it first. And this is over 10 times as deep as the deepest submarine rescue ever.
Worse than our stadium cups?
I suppose you could try, but there's about 6,000 psi pushing back against you. Not gonna happen.
That's even Derek Dunn proof.
Surface vessel sonar, and most submersible sonar to locate is not an option. The sound waves hit a thermal layer (thermocline) and is reflected or refracted. You have to get sonar below about 3500’ to scan that deep, and even then the area to look is immense.
The vastness and conditions of the North Atlantic can be brutal. I heard that right now during good weather for the area, they have 6ft seas. And don’t forget that it took researchers years to find the field of the Titanic wreck. This thing is the size of a minivan subject to strong deep water currents. They most likely will never be found.
The vastness and conditions of the North Atlantic can be brutal. I heard that right now during good weather for the area, they have 6ft seas. And don’t forget that it took researchers years to find the field of the Titanic wreck. This thing is the size of a minivan subject to strong deep water currents. They most likely will never be found.
I had a guy try to get me to invest in an antenna concept that was impervious to water and metal one time. The only issues I could find with the concept were:
1) It defied actual physics, something that the guy could not explain, but was nonetheless not deterred
2) His "prototype" was an inch tall hunk of rounded plastic with a BNC connector glued to it.
He left wondering what went wrong with his presentation...
Was this guy from Lucedale by any chance? **
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I can't recall, but pretty sure it wasn't that guy...unfortunately... Honestly, the number of "great ideas" i've had to sit through and decline is hard for me to believe except I did it and know its true.
Pilot's 16 y/o kid and his friends used up the batteries on the controllers the night before the launch.
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Then I will yield to you on pressure issues. Hats off to you dude, submariners are a special breed.
Was thinking about it from the standpoint of gasses in their bloodstream that would react negatively to surface pressure. Even if brought to the surface, would they have enough oxygen to allow their bodies a return to normal? Complete ignorance admittedly, but just curious.
Inside the sub, the pressure is normal. If they can get them to the surface, they should be ok. From what I’ve read, the biggest danger is hypothermia of the sub has lost power.
The gases in the bloodstream effect is only an issue when your body is actually exposed to higher pressures, like scuba divers. Their bodies are actually exposed to the higher pressure below the water. That’s not the case in this submersible. Their bodies don’t experience any significant higher pressure because they are sealed up in a vessel where pressure is controlled at atmospheric pressure that’s the same as on the surface above the water.
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