OT: UAP Phenomenon "Sequel" Thread

[PrtLng Lion]

When it comes to Congress, they'll do anything to spend more money.

OK, but humor and cynicism aside... how does that explain this aerial phenomenon that trained military observers have seen and picked up on telemetry?

This topic isn't going away despite attempts by many to dismiss it for who-knows-what-reason (challenges one's worldview?).

If this happens to be highly advanced Chinese technology, so be it. But wouldn't you want to know that (or want the government to spend money figure it out)?

 

[Zenophile]

Speaking of The Phenomenon, I heard James Fox is working on another documentary, this one about the 1996 Varginha Incident in Brazil. Supposedly targeting to have it out by end of this year.

Here’s another conversation that was an interesting listen.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Here’s another conversation that was an interesting listen.

Nolan is solid. Not an overtly dismissive skeptic, not a tin-foil-hat believer-- willing to follow the data. Saw him on with Jaimungal and was impressed. Looking forward to listening to this.

 

[Zenophile]

Congressional Hearing on UAP live stream

 

[ApexLion]

Congressional Hearing on UAP live stream

Not much happened but at least they are taking it seriously by setting up a process to examine each sighting.

Watched the first X-files movie again. Oddly enough, it has not aged and in fact seems more plausible than when it came out. Yes, I know its a movie. Nevertheless, it was interesting.

On a related note...Voyager 1 Probe Acting Strange. No doubt the aliens are messing with it.

 

[Zenophile]

Penn Staters who engaged in social media over the past 10 years will be all too familiar with this bush league tactic.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Penn Staters who engaged in social media over the past 10 years will be all too familiar with this bush league tactic.

Yes, we should certainly believe Mr. Formalbook87654 that he/she is an authority with inside knowledge on this topic. I'm sure this is exactly the way such an authority would handle this issue.

 

[Keyser Soze 16802]

How is it that we have craft that look like a bird on radar but these craft from a more advanced civilization are easily detectable by radar

 

[Zenophile]

Yes, we should certainly believe Mr. Formalbook87654 that he/she is an authority with inside knowledge on this topic. I'm sure this is exactly the way such an authority would handle this issue.

"Troll Farm with Honor" - Richard Edelman

 

[PrtLng Lion]

How is it that we have craft that look like a bird on radar but these craft from a more advanced civilization are easily detectable by radar

Speculation here (of course), but I could imagine numerous possible answers...

• Whoever developed this technology felt no need to make it stealth/radar invisible (no threat? radar is not a thing "there"?)
• We can also detect these things and birds with IR technology... that doesn't mean the maneuvers these things make aren't way beyond any known military capabilities
• The technology is indeed capable of being radar-invisible... the fact that sometimes can can detect it on radar and sometimes we cannot makes it even more advanced.
• Besides, if it's so easily detected on radar then why are some of these occurrences not so easily explained?

 

[Zenophile]

Interesting new Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/dod_aaro?s=21

 

[91Joe95]

Interesting new Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/dod_aaro?s=21

"As we grow the Office, begin building upon the previous
@deptofdefense
efforts in this area, and communicate with Congress, we will provide updates on our progress here. This is an exciting and intellectually stimulating opportunity for us here at AARO."

Emphasis on grow.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Is this the "new" task force setup recently from the Gillibrand amendment? First I saw that name (AARO).

 

[91Joe95]

Is this the "new" task force setup recently from the Gillibrand amendment? First I saw that name (AARO).

You would think so, but then again this is government.

 

[Zenophile]

Is this the "new" task force setup recently from the Gillibrand amendment? First I saw that name (AARO).

Looks like a reboot.

U.S. Military Creates New 'Anomaly Resolution Office' to Investigate UFOs

The new All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office will expand upon U.S. military efforts to study "unidentified aerial phenomena."

www.newsweek.com

 

[ApexLion]

Interesting new Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/dod_aaro?s=21

That is.
Btw, just saw the documentary on the Hill couple and their account of being kidnapped by aliens in 1961. I found the story to be pretty straightforward. I’m not sure what they got out of it if it’s made up. Has their story ever been debunked?

 

[Moogy]

Years ago, bored housewives would pick up a National Enquirer in line at the supermarket. The less reputable ones would pick up an even less reputable magazine, whose name escapes me, at the moment. But even those trashy housewives would look down upon rags like the National Examiner and Weekly World News. They're the ones that posted all the alien nonsense. Only the crazy ladies in mumus and hairnets smoking a cigarette with their baby in the carriage would purchase that nonsense.

I'm glad to see that those housewives have settled into this thread.

 

[91Joe95]

Years ago, bored housewives would pick up a National Enquirer in line at the supermarket. The less reputable ones would pick up an even less reputable magazine, whose name escapes me, at the moment. But even those trashy housewives would look down upon rags like the National Examiner and Weekly World News. They're the ones that posted all the alien nonsense. Only the crazy ladies in mumus and hairnets smoking a cigarette with their baby in the carriage would purchase that nonsense.

I'm glad to see that those housewives have settled into this thread.

I believe the name of the newspaper you're looking for is the New York Times.

 

[Zenophile]

Years ago, bored housewives would pick up a National Enquirer in line at the supermarket. The less reputable ones would pick up an even less reputable magazine, whose name escapes me, at the moment. But even those trashy housewives would look down upon rags like the National Examiner and Weekly World News. They're the ones that posted all the alien nonsense. Only the crazy ladies in mumus and hairnets smoking a cigarette with their baby in the carriage would purchase that nonsense.

I'm glad to see that those housewives have settled into this thread.

Thanks!

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Years ago, bored housewives would pick up a National Enquirer in line at the supermarket. The less reputable ones would pick up an even less reputable magazine, whose name escapes me, at the moment. But even those trashy housewives would look down upon rags like the National Examiner and Weekly World News. They're the ones that posted all the alien nonsense. Only the crazy ladies in mumus and hairnets smoking a cigarette with their baby in the carriage would purchase that nonsense.

I'm glad to see that those housewives have settled into this thread.

“There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement.” -Lord Kelvin, 1897.

 

[Zenophile]

More from Dr. Garry Nolan.

 

[Zenophile]

More from Dr. Garry Nolan.

Full interview

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Well now....
https://thehill.com/opinion/3610916-congress-implies-ufos-have-non-human-origins/

 

[ApexLion]

Well now....
https://thehill.com/opinion/3610916-congress-implies-ufos-have-non-human-origins/

Something is up. Military seems to be interested in explanations for the pilots’ footage.

 

[Zenophile]

Penn State prof offers Monday night courses on history of the phenomenon via Atlas Obscura.

 

[91Joe95]

Penn State prof offers Monday night courses on history of the phenomenon

You have to be out of this world to pay full tuition prices for that. The only degree that accepts it as a core credit is mathematics.

 

[ApexLion]

Always find these kinds of reports from a war zone interesting. These stories go back hundreds of years.

UAPs in Ukraine?

UFOs in History

 

[Zenophile]

Interesting conversation with Christopher Mellon.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

ONI (UAPTF) October report due out any day now...

Found this recently, good overview for anyone interested who wants to get up to speed on the UAPTF (from 2020, from a non-US govt organization) and it's role.
https://besacenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/183-Milburn-study-final.pdf

 

[Wow]

The whole thing is a gov't psyops program to bring conspiracy theorists back to the fringe subjects and get them out of politics.

 

[Zenophile]

The whole thing is a gov't psyops program to bring conspiracy theorists back to the fringe subjects and get them out of politics.

Could absolutely be. If so, someone's playing one helluva long (& multigenerational) game considering it's been going on since at least the 40's.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Moment of Contact from James Fox is a good watch- about the Varghina (sp?) incident in Brazil.

(and yes I know that looks like a certain part of the female anatomy)

 

[Zenophile]

Happy Christmas Eve! A note from Christopher Mellon on the recent passage of the National Defense Authorization Act.

Unprecedented UAP Legislation

Unbeknownst to most Americans, President Biden just signed into law far-reaching legislation that could soon confirm the existence of an alien presence on earth. The relevant provisions, incorporated into legislation needed to provide funding for the Department of Defense (DoD) and the...

www.christophermellon.net

 

[ApexLion]

Moment of Contact from James Fox is a good watch- about the Varghina (sp?) incident in Brazil.

(and yes I know that looks like a certain part of the female anatomy)

A lotta Varghina info.

 

[Zenophile]

Another interesting development

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Another interesting development

Interesting, as Salas has already made public statements about how nukes were affected in the presence of UAPs.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Short list of some other public figures I would think AARO would want to talk to (I imagine there are many more people who have not been public yet):

• Jim Lacatski (AAWSAP)
• Robert Bigelow (BAASS)
• Eric Davis, Admiral Tom Wilson
• Garry Nolan, Jaques Vallee (materials analysis)
• David Fravor, Alex Dietrich, Sean Cahill, Chad Underwood (+ officers from USS Nimitz c. 2004)
• Ryan Graves
• Lue Elizondo (AATIP), Chris Mellon

 

[Zenophile]

Happy New Year. If you’re at all interested in this issue (and presumably you are because you’re reading this), hang in there through the technical difficulties for a fairly straightforward & enjoyable conversational summary.

 

[Zenophile]

Looks interesting.

Ryan Graves UFO Podcast | UFO UAP Podcast - Merged Podcast With Ryan Garves

www.mergedpodcast.com

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Looks interesting.

Ryan Graves UFO Podcast | UFO UAP Podcast - Merged Podcast With Ryan Garves

www.mergedpodcast.com

So many new podcasts on this topic, hard to keep up. I like Graves' military experience... makes it hard for people to just dismiss.