Excuses makers don't help their teammate/workmates. I think you and a few others need to understand this basic reality.
Outgoing Transfers This Loss is on You. You Let Your Teammates, Your School and Your Fanbase Down.
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Translation: "I can't refute my own words....> Excuses are for losers" so I just say "blah, blah, blah."
YOU. ARE. WRONG. - And you can't deal with simple reality because if you do, it literally destroys your whole world view (fantasy) and God forbid, we can't have that. "Excuses are for losers." > EXACTLY!!!!!!! "I'm sitting out *BECAUSE* ....."
You nailed it. Now accept it and deal with it and quit encouraging it. It is WRONG. And @Dod Rangerfield nailed it with his response. It's so blatantly obvious.
And yet the guys fighting the war on the field give zero care about your opinion. And the reason is because it doesn’t matter.
Since its all about professional careers - lets start their careers early with college scholarships which are 4 year contracts with hefty buyouts secured by future earnings. At least some ROI for the institution is involved!
It's not an opinion. It's fact. Fact you refuse to see. In fact, I can break it down for you in mathematical terms. Even you cannot argue with math.
There's 11 players on offense and 11 players on defense. If all 11 players on offense quit, and all 11 players on defense quit and literally sit out and refuse to play - you lose the game.
I'm pretty sure the object of the game is to *WIN* the game. You don't / can't win with quitters.
Now that I've painted you into a mathematical corner that you *CANNOT* refute, you will say "but we will just replace those 11 players on both sides of the ball because of the depth chart." Fine. Now just keep subtracting. If those 11 replacements refuse to play / quit / on both sides of the ball - you lose the game. You will argue those 11 will be replaced, I will say keep subtracting..... eventually *YOU* are going to run out of replacements and literally have no one left at all. Not a single player. At that point, you will be forced to forfeit the game and that counts as a loss.
Math / basic, simple, 3rd grade math utterly destroys your entire argument. Reality is not your strong suit. Math doesn't lie. Will say again, it's not an "opinion" - it is fact. Fact you don't want to deal with because you're wrong and it destroys your fantasy land narrative.
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3 years like I said. I never specified that that had to go to school.
Tell that to all the teams that have won super bowls with college bowl opt outs.
No because their team mates don’t think like 30-80 year old men behind a keyboard preaching values and quitting. They see it for exactly what it is.
Name me just *ONE* team with *AN ENTIRE 53 MAN ROSTER* made up of all "opt outs" (cough quitters) ........ that has ever won a super bowl.
You can't. Why? Because it's never happened. Why? Because quitters don't win. They quit. They don't have the character to be winners. You can argue all day and you're going to be wrong all day. There's never been an entire 53 man roster NFL team made up *SOLELY* of quitters to ever win a single super bowl. ~ When you find one, be sure to let me know. I'll wait......
Exactly. They think like kids, and kids don't know diddly. You can keep arguing but you're still gonna be wrong. Work ethic, character, morals, integrity matter. It's a shame there are some who encourage these young athletes down the wrong road in life.
Quitting is never the answer.
You’re characterizing all opt outs as quitters. You’re also saying you can’t win with quitters. Therefore if one opt out has played and won a super bowl. It means you’re full of ****.
No what matters in the end is providing for your family. I bet if I take your house, your money, and your means, your morals will disappear real quick. Providing for their family and making the best decisions for them, the real team, is what trumps all. That is exactly what these kids are doing.
Players don’t label them quitters. Nfl teams don’t label them quitters. You know who labels them quitters. Spoiled fans who have no skin in the game. That believe they should honor their school till the end, Screw the consequences. Sounds selfish to me. But you play it on morals which has crap to do with it.
No they didn't. They simply exposed themselves as people that you cannot rely on. They made a commitment *TO A TEAM* / to be part of a team. Win together. Lose together. No matter what. What would be "best for them" is to not brand themselves as quitters for the rest of their lives.
It's a cop out rationalization for quitting - and exposes your true character for life. Anyone who thinks they are doing themselves any favors by being forever known as a quitter is clearly not thinking about what is "best for them." - They're making a selfish rationalization to quit. Nothing more.
They are only labeled a quitter by the likes of you, that oh btw don’t matter.
Still waiting for that 53 roster team full of quitters that won a super bowl...... don't respond to me again until you name that team. <grin>
Just tell me the team that won a super bowl with 53 "opt outs" on the roster.......and I'll tell you that you're right. Like I said, I'll wait........
When that team that you so much defend has literally stated they aren’t bothered by it then your argument means nothing. You’re a simple bystander. If you want to preach that you as a fan feel bad then that’s one thing. Go ahead and complain as much as you want that you’re so bothered that so and so didn’t play that last bowl game so you hate them so much wah wah wah.
But don’t try to hide behind the defense of them being a bad teammate when actual real teammates come out saying they’re ok with those decisions.
You aren’t a player with them. You aren’t their family. You aren’t their brother. You’re a random person who just cheers them and boos them from the stands.
They make a commitment to a team so then they should only care about what their team says. If their team is ok with it then that’s all that matters.
You aren’t their team. You’re just some random person they’ll never know who cheers for them and boos them as well. You sit in the stands and then whine on message boards when people don’t do what you like like the rest of the 20 year old generation right now.
Again who said anything about a whole team you employed you can’t win with one or any.
I’ll take it a step farther they whine that a different generation of 20 year olds isn’t doing it like their generation. It’s called evolving we tend to do that.
I did.
I want you to name me a NFL super bowl team made up of nothing but 53 "opt outs" / quitters.
Argue all day dude, you're wrong.
Nope. Just more word salad nonsense for rationalizing quitting.....
You're wrong. Period.
There isn’t one but you’re trying to imply that you can’t win with what you label as a quitter and that’s not true.
I’m not wrong because it’s an opinion. We don’t get a say. They do and they don’t have a problem with it. You can complain all you want but it’s not going away and no one sees them as quitters but a select few .
Motion seconded!!
They are paid. Handsomely.
All paid for:
college education
housing
meals
books
tutoring
more UA gear than you can shake a stick at
Nice to hear from our biggest new fan. You are an inspiration.
Out for us on offense:
Lloyd
Bell
Stogner
Kenion
Vann
Brooks
Defense:
Smith
Rush
Pickens
Edmonds
Reed
Yeah, those two ND were missing were the best two players in the country. One is even a projected 2nd round pick. Oh wait, their QB was out due to transferring..you know, that all world QB who was 2nd string, then got the job when the guy that played yesterday got hurt, who would have lost his job again in the spring.....That QB left so I guess that's 3 out for them that matter. The other few didn't play for them.
You're brilliant
. The taters have two DEs better than the one sitting out for ND. And as for the TE being out, he was their leading receiver due to them having no other receivers.You can keep saying that all you want but it’s not true and it’s not how SCOTUS see’s it. There is this think called law and the US government has ruled and they don’t see it your way. If they thought that was just compensation they would allow the NCAA to regulate NIL.
Here we are going to make million off your body and back. But you can get training and education while you’re here. Something I would garnish 1/2 don’t care about it you really got their opinion. Oh, by the way we will make millions.
Good answer. If not for the bowl games T V would very boring for a while. If not for the bowl what would the 40,000+ Gamecock fans be doing Fla. Take some consolation in the tigers took it a heck of a lot worse than us.
Would you mind re-typing this? Preferably using better grammar, punctuation, & the King’s English. Not really sure what you’re trying to tell me.
SCOTUS made a decision. The right decision. They do not see an education as just compensation when the schools are making millions and rightfully so. It’s the reason the NCAA can not touch NIL. Therefore I’m pretty sure that if the NCAA did what you asked, it wouldn’t fly legally. No matter how you want to scream it training and school is not just compensation compared to the billions that the NCAA makes off their backs. Got it. It’s not a hard concept. Pay them and it all goes away over night.
The persistence against that very thing is what has put college football in the situation that it’s in now.
These players haven’t been amateurs in a long time open your eyes. Amateurs don’t get hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on them, so that entity can make more money. Quite the opposite actually.
What you do have to do is obey the law, so you can’t either conform or college football will continue down the road it’s one. The days of having your cake and eating it to are over mandarin rightfully so.
Furthermore, according to you they are already being payed right?
The players will never love the team like the fans do. Most aren't fans to that extent. A scholarship is a means to an end for a hopeful NFL career. Wrapping up your hopes is an 18-23 year old kid is going to lead to disappointment more often than not.
Are we still talking about people who are transferring out? Landing on a NFL roster is not something I would be betting my future on at that stage (transferring, not declaring for the draft).
Love DK, but what do you expect him to say when he is put on the spot about his Teammates?
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