Outgoing Transfers This Loss is on You. You Let Your Teammates, Your School and Your Fanbase Down.

Prestonyte

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High schools athletes willingly sign college scholarship agreements and the NFL requires three years of college.
What a winning deal for the NFL.
Seems to me the NFL should be footing the bill for this bartering arrangement we now mistakenly call college football instead of Minor League Professional Football.

Ideally, the NFL should start their own farm system and sign 18 year old's straight out of high school and develop them to the NFL themselves. The NFL's control over college football is insane and needs to be changed.
 

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Not really; they were missing their best player on offense and defense. Give them some credit. They threw two pick sixes and still won. That says enough.
And look at ND's schedule...they beat some good teams...and lost to some no-so-good.

65 yds rushing is our main culprit. One dimensional offense with key players missing.
 
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I am not going to say Pickens, because he could have gone Pro Last Year. Came back anyway.
I'm going to say that, overall, this idea of opting out and not finishing the year with the players you started with is frustrating. I don't understand the mindset of this and personally I would struggle as a head coach in this environment. That's why I do like Beamer's approach with opt outs (portal or otherwise) - no bowl for you......my advice to a young person today would be simply this: Finish the complete season.
 
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The players will never love the team like the fans do. Most aren't fans to that extent. A scholarship is a means to an end for a hopeful NFL career. Wrapping up your hopes is an 18-23 year old kid is going to lead to disappointment more often than not.
I will tell you what. Let's not teach young people to be committed to anything. No Marriage Commitments, No relationship commitments, No Parental relationships to your children, No commitment to family, no commitment to education, no commitment to jobs, no commitment to our pets, no commitment to church and/or Religious Beliefs, no commitment to our neighbors, No commitment to our Country.

Let's everyone individually do What's best for him/her. What kind of Society would we have. We would cease to exist. Everything would completely fall apart. This is the kind of Society many of you are encouraging When you Communicate the Message to young people/Kids, Commitment doesn't matter.
No commitment to anything at all. I will say this I am Infallible like the next person, but I have done my best to communicate to kids Commitment does Matter.

When I meet God, my conscience is Clear that I tried my best to teach/Communicate Commitment does Matter and is Important in all Aspects of Life.

We Will all Die One Day and Meet God whether we believe in Him or isn't going to change that we will meet Him and give an Account for Our Lives.
 

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I’m not wrong because it’s an opinion. We don’t get a say. They do and they don’t have a problem with it. You can complain all you want but it’s not going away and no one sees them as quitters but a select few .
If you don't like the word quitter - try backstabber. Fits just as well for the career minded college athlete who abandons their colleagues (team).
I can’t wait until all these “I hate you opt outers” threads are finally over with. When’s it gonna be, mid-Feb?

No one here is gonna change anyone’s mind on any matter, whether it be against opt-outers or the understanding of opt outers. So the cliche thread just gets annoying.

Oh and according to Dakereon Joyner they did not let their teammates down.

Joyner also said, "My father taught me to finish what I started". Valuable life lesson learned.
 

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Motion seconded!!

They are paid. Handsomely.

All paid for:

college education
housing
meals
books
tutoring
more UA gear than you can shake a s
Would you mind re-typing this? Preferably using better grammar, punctuation, & the King’s English. Not really sure what you’re trying to tell me.
He is probably the same guy bashing the Supreme Court for over turning Roe v Wade. Now they are correct.
 
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Lol... you realize ND had 5 starters (1 all American out on Defense) and 2 on offense (1 all American out)..... baseless argument..
Lol... you realize ND had 5 starters (1 all American out on Defense) and 2 on offense (1 all American out)..... baseless argument..
Wrong….3 (and the qb was a wash cause he got the job due to injury to the guy who played last night). Give up the 11 out vs 3 argument like it makes it equal losses. You look silly trying so hard. Remember to pick up your paycheck at Jervey Athletic Center next Friday.

We lost, good effort, but acting like ND was going to blow us out is comical
 
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Wrong….3 (and the qb was a wash cause he got the job due to injury to the guy who played last night). Give up the 11 out vs 3 argument like it makes it equal losses. You look silly trying so hard. Remember to pick up your paycheck at Jervey Athletic Center next Friday.

We lost, good effort, but acting like ND was going to blow us out is comical

Starting DL- Jayson A. Out (injured)
Starting S - out (injured)
Starting CB - out (injured)
 

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When that team that you so much defend has literally stated they aren’t bothered by it then your argument means nothing. You’re a simple bystander. If you want to preach that you as a fan feel bad then that’s one thing. Go ahead and complain as much as you want that you’re so bothered that so and so didn’t play that last bowl game so you hate them so much wah wah wah.

But don’t try to hide behind the defense of them being a bad teammate when actual real teammates come out saying they’re ok with those decisions.

You aren’t a player with them. You aren’t their family. You aren’t their brother. You’re a random person who just cheers them and boos them from the stands.

They make a commitment to a team so then they should only care about what their team says. If their team is ok with it then that’s all that matters.

You aren’t their team. You’re just some random person they’ll never know who cheers for them and boos them as well. You sit in the stands and then whine on message boards when people don’t do what you like like the rest of the 20 year old generation right now.
Quitters are bad teammates. Period. The end. Bye.
 
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I will tell you what. Let's not teach young people to be committed to anything. No Marriage Commitments, No relationship commitments, No Parental relationships to your children, No commitment to family, no commitment to education, no commitment to jobs, no commitment to our pets, no commitment to church and/or Religious Beliefs, no commitment to our neighbors, No commitment to our Country.

Let's everyone individually do What's best for him/her. What kind of Society would we have. We would cease to exist. Everything would completely fall apart. This is the kind of Society many of you are encouraging When you Communicate the Message to young people/Kids, Commitment doesn't matter.
No commitment to anything at all. I will say this I am Infallible like the next person, but I have done my best to communicate to kids Commitment does Matter.

When I meet God, my conscience is Clear that I tried my best to teach/Communicate Commitment does Matter and is Important in all Aspects of Life.

We Will all Die One Day and Meet God whether we believe in Him or isn't going to change that we will meet Him and give an Account for Our Lives.
Well said……

The dictatorship of “relativism” by Pope Benedict from 20+ years ago: (little did we know then how true this is now)

"Civilization is now under the tyranny of relativism. We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one's own ego and one's own desires."
 

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Because college is a means to an end. Always has been. The nfl requires 3 years, that is always the end goal. Nothing more nothing less.
That is the first thing that should change in IMO. The NFL should require four years. For many reasons. And transfer portal should be a one-time thing only. And once a player accepts NIL money from a particular University they should be obligated to stay there.

TP should be for players who are not getting to play where they are. Also TP should not open for enrollees until complete season is over, including bowl games.

Let's see. Did I leave anything out? I love telling people what to do, haha!
 
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Have you ever left a job for more money or because of mismanagement? Or made a lateral move for a better opportunity for advancement? If so then you have no right to call these kids quitters. Sure some of these players make selfish decisions that just plain suck and they deserve some criticism but you can't paint a broad stroke over EVERYONE. Some players leave for good reasons. You have ZERO Idea what's going on in their lives that's causing them to make that decision.

By ya'lls definition if you are divorced then you are a quitter. So if you are divorced and calling these kids quitters then look at yourself in a mirror..... quitter.
 
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That is the first thing that should change in IMO. The NFL should require four years. For many reasons. And transfer portal should be a one-time thing only. And once a player accepts NIL money from a particular University they should be obligated to stay there.

TP should be for players who are not getting to play where they are. Also TP should not open for enrollees until complete season is over, including bowl games.

Let's see. Did I leave anything out? I love telling people what to do, haha!
Again players don’t receive money from the university. NIL has zero to do with the school other than that is who the giver of the money pulls for. That’s it.

Out of curiosity what are these reasons the nfl should require 4 years?
 

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And yet the guys fighting the war on the field give zero care about your opinion. And the reason is because it doesn’t matter.
They are not fighting a war on a field. They're playing a game. Google Omaha Beach if you want to see what fighting a war is all about.
 

coolmamie

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Again players don’t receive money from the university. NIL has zero to do with the school other than that is who the giver of the money pulls for. That’s it.

Out of curiosity what are these reasons the nfl should require 4 years?
With all the rules changes for the sake of safety, it is a no-brainer that another year of growth (maturity, size, strength, etc.) would be of benefit. With all the time, money, etc. that a school puts into recruiting a player, that commitment should not be as temporary to the school as it has become. The NFL certainly designs contracts with its best interests at heart.

I do understand that the NIL money does not come from the school, but the school as well as the teammates are integral to the success of the player in question. If you are a star for USC, then USC is certainly part of your equation.

We have set up a system in which a lot of money is flooding into the hands of a lot of young men who may not be ready to withstand a lot of the pressure put on them to get MORE in pastures that may or may not be greener.

I recently heard someone say these players are enjoying more freedoms and less restrictions than NFL players.

These are my opinions only.
 

coolmamie

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I am no expert and don't know the names of plays, but from my layman's point of view, we lost because we kept doing that ridiculous sweep? play to the right on the first down every series and it NEVER WORKED and because they kept doing that run play to the left on every third down and it ALWAYS WORKED.

It was like deja vu all over again.