I agree. Penn State did not need a law school, but once it decided it would have one it should have made a commitment to make it a top 40 school at the very least.
Penn State withdraws from U.S. News law school rankings
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I worked with dangerous chemicals (flammable, pyrophoric, etc.) and the requisite lab equipment safely and to produce the desired products at high purity and in excellent yields. That was years ago. I’d probably be a dumpster fire working at Starbucks now. It would be such an unmitigated disaster.
I’m such an a$$hole.
LOL, I wish Tom McAndrew would open an escrow account for posts like this, $1K, you didn't pass the CPA exam. Make it $10K. Tom?
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My friend. Come visit Alpharetta. It's a great place to live. Inclusive, diverse and fun.
I was a University Scholar (now Schreyer Honors College) who received my undergrad degree in Accounting, so I was taking grad level accounting courses as an undergrad (and not going to class, not studying and getting As). It came very easy to me. I'm sorry it was hard for you. If you wish to donate $10K to a stranger on the internet, you really must have struggled balancing the books. It took you two shots to make your post, so no wonder you struggled with the CPA exam.
Well this thread has certainly spiraled. We are now having a pissing match about who is better at accounting. Must be a slow Tuesday night. This thread needs taken behind the barn and shot.
I worked with dangerous chemicals (flammable, pyrophoric, etc.) and the requisite lab equipment safely and to produce the desired products at high purity and in excellent yields. That was years ago. I’d probably be a dumpster fire working at Starbucks now. It would be such an unmitigated disaster.
I’m such an a$$hole.
You could be like the Walter White of coffee - do it!
Well Bob,I worked with dangerous chemicals (flammable, pyrophoric, etc.) and the requisite lab equipment safely and to produce the desired products at high purity and in excellent yields. That was years ago. I’d probably be a dumpster fire working at Starbucks now. It would be such an unmitigated disaster.
I’m such an a$$hole.
You're mine, no matter the individual you perceive yourself.
My dearest Uncle John who worked for Tenaco as a chemical engineer & developed many patents for Tenco, had a similar experience with lose of lives and remembered the accident the remaining yrs of his life, and never accepted the accident as being an accident.
Perhaps the message to the PSU law school was "go woke go broke"....as well as to the rest of the university. I still prefer the old standard of "excellence" from back in the day. Equal outcomes does not appear to be much of a motivational factor to me. But that's just me.I might have missed a word or two but here is my tally of terms in regards to PSU’s “interim” response
1. Equity / Equality = 4
2. Inclusion = 2
3. Tied at one (1) mention: Justice; Excellence, Engagement, Championship (that one is going to sting Franklin) ….
I especially loved this hurled insult to equitable inclusion ….
“Relying heavily on a subjective rating submitted by law school administrators and faculty as well as attorneys and judges”.
Aren’t those the individuals marginally qualified to contribute to such rankings?
I love
when you brag about things some of us already knew up to the point where you start lying.And then I have to throw a flag
Along the path of life, I’ve found that people who artificially insist on bragging about themselves not only suffer from deep-seated insecurity issues, but ultimately expose themselves as ego-maniacal frauds.
Your posting history on this board and the former demonstrate that you have “life issues”. What’s truly unfortunate is that you seem to be subjecting “certain others” to same.
You’re not only a bad person, you’re a worse parent.
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Excellence? It was idiotic. Welch was the first CEO to take a healthy company and treat it like a turnaround, preemptively laying off tens of thousands of workers.
Did Cracky Jack make money for the shareholders (the people who actually owned the company)? Yes he did, up to a point.
Why do I suspect you were a victim of a needed employment downsizing at a certain location in Pennsylvania?
Treated employees like ****.Did Cracky Jack make money for the shareholders (the people who actually owned the company)?
Why do I suspect you were employment victim of a needed downsizing at a certain location in Pennsylvania?
He nearly drove GE out of business. Under Welch, GE unleashed a wave of mass layoffs and factory closures that other companies followed. The trend helped destabilize the American middle class. Profits began flowing not back to workers in the form of higher wages, but to big investors and GE executives in the form of stock buybacks.
From being the most valuable company on Earth, GE fell to the point of essential irrelevance in the American economy. In 2018, with all of Welch's bad decisions catching up with the company, GE was removed from the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the bluest of blue chip indexes and a real bellwether of the American economy. GE had been one of the very first companies included in the index.
I never worked for GE, worked for a competitor.
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So you took a break from failing at doxxing, and from bragging that you were the sole reason this board wasn't going under, to talk to us about the dangers of bragging, acting like a fraud and poor posting histories.I love
And then I have to throw a flag
Along the path of life, I’ve found that people who artificially insist on bragging about themselves not only suffer from deep-seated insecurity issues, but ultimately expose themselves as ego-maniacal frauds.
Your posting history on this board and the former demonstrate that you have “life issues”. What’s truly unfortunate is that you seem to be subjecting “certain others” to same.
You’re not only a bad person, you’re a worse parent.
Thank you for that unintentional awesomeness.
Says the guy getting smoked on another thread.
Keep doing what you’re doing. Pure entertainment.
Can't you afford to pay someone to give you a hug?Says the guy getting smoked on another thread.
Keep doing what you’re doing. Pure entertainment.
A question your two parentally-abused children will undoubtedly ask on your death bed.
I feel for your progeny. They deserve better in life.
The sooner you let out all these regrets in your life, the sooner you can get to healing. Why do you feel you let your kids down?
I missed this earlier.
Sure, you're always going to find jaded/conspiratorial/agenda-driven people in all walks of life. You even saw it in this thread ... when confronted with a situation where the overwhelming majority of law schools with favored status in these rankings are protesting the rankings, those who are determined to cast PSU (or any other "lower" ranked law school) in a negative light scramble and say "well, those schools don't need the rankings, so they don't even care! Now, back to saying anyone with a lower ranking is lodging this protest because they don't like their ranking!" Bigfoot is real. Nessie is out there. Unsupported assertions are tossed around the interwebz as fact on the daily.
Look, it's possible. Just about anything is possible. But without some real, concrete evidence, there's no reason to believe in this negative portrayal.
And, yes, I believe PSU has botched their handling of establishing a law school, from the very inception (when they decided to purchase a middling law school hours away from campus, rather than just forming their own in State College. Hoping they make the correct move and consolidate both operations into a going concern at UP. Tough task, however, to quickly rise above law schools established 100+ years, with an established record of above average performance, in a metric that doesn't move much over decades, in almost all cases.
It's just a shame you don't have any PSU friends, like your Pitt friends, to point out all the great things about Penn State whenever someone says anything negative about dear ole PSU on this board.
I have scores of Penn State friends. Both my daughters are Penn State grads and they picked it over better schools because they saw the love I had for the place. I took them to Penn State football games before they were in kindergarten. I held season tickets for 40 years, donated more than I could afford, and touted "Dear Old State" at every opportunity. That said, there is no need for me to point out the great things about Penn State on this board. Many others here do that quite well. I just think this University could be better....a lot better, and so I focus on areas where improvement can be made. That may come across as being overly negative but I don't care. Penn State has problems and they won't be solved by hiding them behind a sea of blue and white pompoms.
Gotta say I disagree with most of this post.
Hershey isn’t a “crap” school. It is well above average by objective measures ( research funding)
Politics didn’t place PSU medical school in Hershey. It was $50 million in 1966 dollars contributed by Hershey trust.
And, for a variety of reasons, the best medical schools are near large metro regions. I can’t think of a single outstanding medical school located in a metro area of less than 100K (ie State College). I realize that Hershey isn’t a huge metropolis, but Harrisburg metro is >500K. All things considered, I think Hershey is a better location for a medical school than is State College.
Actually, Hershey is a very mediocre school by just about any metric. Haven't looked it up lately, but most years it has been ranked very poorly or not at all. Of the allopathic schools in the state (traditional MD schools), it's always last. For a while there, Hahnemann was just as bad, but it's now extinct, and Drexel has done a decent job with the combined MCP/Hahnemann carcass.Gotta say I disagree with most of this post.
Hershey isn’t a “crap” school. It is well above average by objective measures ( research funding)
Politics didn’t place PSU medical school in Hershey. It was $50 million in 1966 dollars contributed by Hershey trust.
And, for a variety of reasons, the best medical schools are near large metro regions. I can’t think of a single outstanding medical school located in a metro area of less than 100K (ie State College). I realize that Hershey isn’t a huge metropolis, but Harrisburg metro is >500K. All things considered, I think Hershey is a better location for a medical school than is State College.
The Hershey trust did indeed fund the initial placement, but there's way more to that story. As you say, just about all of the best schools are in urban environments and large population centers, for very obvious reasons. As I recall the original intent was for this school to be in Pittsburgh, but **** happened, and not in a good way. The school's location in Hershey pretty much dooms it to mediocrity. There's not enough local population and it's too close to Philly to make a go of it as a tertiary care referral facility a la the Mayo Clinic, which is also in the middle of nowhere. The residency programs also suffer greatly because of this. If they had to do it all over again, they'd never put it where it is.
Hershey Med kills people left and right, and so do the nurses and doctors they turn out.
F*ck us.
I'll add that the Hershey Trust did this to both provide a top medical facility for the community and, more importantly, to provide a top medical facility for the students at Milton Hershey School.Gotta say I disagree with most of this post.
Hershey isn’t a “crap” school. It is well above average by objective measures ( research funding)
Politics didn’t place PSU medical school in Hershey. It was $50 million in 1966 dollars contributed by Hershey trust.
And, for a variety of reasons, the best medical schools are near large metro regions. I can’t think of a single outstanding medical school located in a metro area of less than 100K (ie State College). I realize that Hershey isn’t a huge metropolis, but Harrisburg metro is >500K. All things considered, I think Hershey is a better location for a medical school than is State College.
Using the Mayo clinic as a comparison is just being disingenuous. Oh, and the Hershey Trust asked Penn State to start the medical school in Hershey with the money. If not for the Hershey Trust we wouldn't have a medical school and it appears that would make you happy. Why is that?
It still would have happened, even if the Hershey folks didn't put up the money. As I was told, it would have been on Pittsburgh's North Side, most likely.
And there's nothing disingenuous at all about comparing it to the Mayo. It's got a similar sort of geographic situation with not much local population. The model itself has been copied numerous times successfully; in fact, Geisinger's modeled after it. It's just really hard to become a tertiary referral center such as they are. They aren't the only ones to do it successfully; you could argue that UM in Ann Arbor is similar in many respects. Hershey's never had great visionary leadership, regrettably.
Perhaps you could enlighten us on the topic of “just about any metric”.
And don’t use US News rankings as they’ve been pretty thoroughly debunked.
As I stated, based on a commonly used objective metric—research funding—PSU is well above average.
I don't blame you for wanting to disregard US News rankings, since they have Hershey somewhere around #115. That number may or may not be totally accurate, but it certainly places the school in the general area to which it belongs. They also rank Hershey behind LECOM and Geisinger in research, which even I don't agree with. Nevertheless that is the competition at the level at which they are. But US News is certainly flawed, so feel free to look at other rankings. They are pretty much the same.
If you really want a good look at where a med school ranks academically, a simple way is to see what residency programs their average students are getting accepted at. Not their best students, since the best students at any school are very similar, and will have doors opened for them, but the average student. That's a good place to start.
We should probably continue this in PM if you want. It's probably boring for most people.
Dad actually graduated from one such law school down in So Cal. He was one of the very few in his class to pass. That being said, some of the top prosecutors in our county during the 80s through early 2000s were graduates of such schools.
Gotcha.
your only source is US News.
My source is the fed govt National Science Foundation (NSF), you might have heard of it. Places PSU/Hershey in top 30 for research funding.
They always throw millions of dollars, repeatedly, at stupid people who will waste it.
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