Planting lots of fruit trees
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I found out the hard way:
make sure no cedars or junipers are anywhere close by.
make sure no cedars or junipers are anywhere close by.
Orange man good for Apples
$500 billion in apples today keeps the libs in disarray
Man. That sounded really familiar. Especially the 20,000 jobs business. These mofos are snake oil salesman. They keep promising one thing and keep built cheap pieces of shìt in China.
Apple promises the same thing 4 years ago
One of you forward this to Orangeman and make sure he calls their bluff.
Apple promises the same thing 4 years ago
One of you forward this to Orangeman and make sure he calls their bluff.
Glad you got that reply button straightened out.
This is no joke. The struggle is real. At least make sure those ”cedars”/junipers are downwind of your orchard.
I’m here for the fruit tree discussion. As i am currently planting 25 fruit trees. SixPack is never what you think.
Seems like you used to see a lot more plum trees. Miss 'em
So Apple already has significant 'long-standing US investments' and they are going to expand on the existing staff and buildings.
And Apple is going to build some server manufacturing.
And then Apple will also hire 20,000 new employees while establishing a manufacturing academy.
One of the largest tech companies in the world adding 12% to their labor force, and all of it in the US is significant. That is a pledge to expand US employment by over 22%.
Wet blanket time- the pledge to hire 20,000 over 5 years is 4,000 per year, which is just slightly more than 19.83%, for those keeping track at home. Numbers since the economy crashed and Obama took office are below.
In Obama's first 4 year term in office, Apple added 40,000 employees for 127% growth.
In Obama's second 4 year term in office, Apple added 43,200 employees for 59% growth.
In Trump's first 4 year term in office, Apple added 31,000 jobs for 26.7% growth.
In Biden's only 4 year term in office, Apple added 17,000 jobs for 11.5% growth.
2008 Apple had 32,000 employees.
2009 Apple had 34,300 employees.
2010 Apple had 46,600 employees.
2011 Apple had 60,400 employees.
2012 Apple had 72,800 employees.
2013 Apple had 80,300 employees.
2014 Apple had 92,600 employees.
2015 Apple had 110,000 employees.
2016 Apple had 116,000 employees.
2017 Apple had 123,000 employees.
2018 Apple had 132,000 employees.
2019 Apple had 137,000 employees.
2020 Apple had 147,000 employees.
2021 Apple had 154,000 employees.
2022 Apple had 164,000 employees.
2023 Apple had 161,000 employees.
2024 Apple had 164,000 employees.
This pledge from Apple will grow their workforce by 16,000 jobs over the next 4 years for 9.7% growth.
16,000 new jobs is awesome since its in the US. And the numbers above are global(since it doesnt look like Apple breaks down US jobs by year) vs domestic, but based on Apple's job creation over the last 17 years, this news isnt ground breaking. Its just Apple adding jobs at a similar pace to what they have done under every president since the recession. They added jobs during the recession, they added jobs during covid, and they plan to add jobs at a presumed similar pace over the next 4 years.
Its really cool that Apple is continuing to invest in domestic research, development, and manufacturing. And its even cooler than their investment includes job creation and not just land/operating expenses.
See if you can find a gmo variety, that way you can spray it down with roundup. I read on here a couple of weeks ago how ingesting roundup is good for you. real smart folks.
Are you sure it wasn't Trumps genius that won over Tim? I honestly can't imagine that there has ever been a bigger disparity in intelligence, leadership and competence than existed in that room during that meeting. Even if Trump was sole responsible and Tim Cook left that meeting praising him while Apple employees threw palm fronds in front of him as he exited, it is no excuse to enable him to trample the Constitution and our laws and it is no excuse for our congressmen to allow it, regardless of party; they have an oath to the Constitution, not the leader. Thank goodness, as I was told on here pre-election, Project 2025 and it's Gestapo-like policies, aren't anything Trump knows about or I'd be worried.
Character matters. It used to matter to the party of law and order. And the MAGAs on here pretending that the authoritarian movements that brought us Hitler, Mussolini, etc. were from the Left are just willfully ignorant. Google is your friend, or a local library, or call a historian...
The authoritarian movements led by Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini are generally considered to be from the far right of the political spectrum.
Adolf Hitler: He led the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi Party) in Germany, which promoted extreme nationalism, anti-Semitism, and totalitarianism.
Benito Mussolini: He founded the National Fascist Party in Italy, which emphasized strong centralized control, nationalism, and suppression of political opposition.
Both movements shared characteristics such as dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and strong nationalist ideologies.
Here's another that sounds eerily familiar...Putin's ability to consolidate power has been attributed to his strategic appointments, control over key institutions, and the loyalty of the Russian elite
ETA: Because I have cited facts yet again, I fully expect the MAGAs to respond not with any substance or demonstrable fact but by calling names and yelling louder, a response that was once the liberal calling card...one fact remains cult members hate former cult members.
How is this sports related? Do you consider your gardening a sport? ***
Why must every post on here turn into political rants? This went from soil and plants to Hitler. Y'all calm down and wait your 4 years or 2 if you can convert Congress and make a impeachment stick.
Yes, Apple trees and cedars "fight". Cedar pollen causes apple tree to get brown spots, apple pollen causes cedars to get cedar rust. But, neither have ever had any impact on my phone.
The thread didnt turn political- the first post is clearly political and not at all about plants. It rhetorically asks why now is a good time for Apple to announce a commitment to job creation and links an article that states Trump announced Apple would commit to domestic investing over the next half decade.
MAGAs probably made up 50% of Trump voters, the rest of us were voting AGAINST a Dem party that has completely lost touch with reality (borders, DEI, transgender insanity etc etc etc) and has produced nothing but HORRIBLE candidates for years . Unhinged Democratic sky screamers like yourself contributed as much to elect Trump as the most rabid MAGA. So I say to you....keep up the good work !
Have you filled out your report on what you did last week for your employer ? Other than read left wing propaganda, copy and paste it here.
It’s so fun knowing the most annoying part of our country is furious right now. Keep seething. It’s like watching the folks in Oxford leave early. Warms my heart.
I've let the other bullshiit in this thread slide, but you put some respect on that name son:
I was respectfully showing we’re not worthy of being equated to them
Correct. And those voters will turn the keys back over the democrats when they tire of Trump chaos that trickles down and impacts their lives, no real life improvement in cost of living, immigration, or deficits. And they'll botch it and throw away the keys as well.
Both parties get power, go full idiot on whatever pet project idiot stance they had to push to get the margins to participate in the election, lose their power, and repeat the process. We allow this to repeat like one of the parties/icons is FINALLY going to be a savior. It's insanity and I guess we just reap what the voters have sown and deserve this shiteshow.
I cant think of any propaganda, left or right wing, that I have copy/pasted on SPS.
I am pretty sure everything I have typed that is non-sports(and most that is sports related) either includes quantitative support in the post or it is qualitative analysis based on easily verified research/reporting.
Just because something may not be popular because it challenges simple narratives that feel good, doesnt mean its propaganda or its false. And if you think quoting articles is a negative(is that what you mean by 'copy/paste'?) then it has to suck to be you in life because thats a really wild perspective.
Is the deporting of violent criminal gangs not an improvement?
And the actual impacts on the deficit are yet to be seen (I’m skeptical for various reasons, but I do think the dollars will be spent here instead of overseas), but is it not a positive to at least see waste being exposed and slowed?
The far right and far left dominating politics with their main objective being making the other side cry is why most sane people hate government. Congrats.
We've deported in the past, present, and will in the future. You react positively right now due to the language around immigration involved. The stats a month in for Trump or so weren't really that good last I read. Let's give it a few more before we start making any conclusions on if his look significantly better or worse. Same with inflation, gas, etc.
Don’t pretend the immigration and deportation game hasn’t changed already. Took me 25 minutes to get my order at the taco food truck yesterday because they were short staffed. That ain’t ever been the case before. It’s like a Trump and RFK tag team elbow drop. Trying to make this place safer and “healthier” at the same time.
We need more illegal immigrants and more roundup in our food. I can see why dems are
Pissed.
You didnt ask me, but Ill respond...
I supported this concept as a kid, as a young adult, and still now.
Maybe I am pessimistic...I do cheer for MSU after all.
Its like their goal is to just cause massive disruption and then see how it all settles and go from there.
- The mass layoffs without understanding what some who are let go even do for the government is grossly irresponsible.
- The constant Tweets and press conferences where hot takes are given as soundbites, despite not fully even understanding what was 'discovered' or 'found' is grossly irresponsible.
- The inflation of savings, at times based on not understanding what they are even looking at, is grossly irresponsible.
- The attacking of private citizens when making claims in real time without actual analysis is grossly irresponsible.
- The hyperfocusing on objectionable projects as justification for shutting down a Department or Agency, despite that project being like 0.2% of the budget, is grossly irresponsible.
Not understanding what the word 'fraud' means is grossly irresponsible. My gosh, it just isnt a difficult word to define, yet here we are with it being incorrectly thrown about at record speed. There arent enough Princess Bride memes on the internet to fully address how often that word has been misused in the last month.
The way in which this 'waste' and 'fraud' has been 'exposed'(and yeah, quotes to all those terms for sure) is irresponsible. Its highly objectionable.
Shooting first and asking questions later is not how our government should operate and it definitely is not how employment and budgets should be reviewed.
If someone reviewed a fortune 500 global company for 1 day and then just started just mass firing random teams in Sales, R&D, Marketing, HR, Production, etc and claimed 'I have found the waste!'...they would be viewed as a total fraud(thats the correct use) and not taken seriously.
Yet here we are.
Standing in the Oval Office and talking for 10 minutes while Trump looks like he would rather be anywhere but there, and saying 'we will get a lot of stuff wrong' is grossly irresponsible. I cant imagine anyone on SPS hearing that from a manager and being like 'cool, that seems reasonable'.
Just shut the 17 up and dont speak until you know what you are talking about. Then speak and take action.
All Musk and Trump are doing right now is creating even more confusion, disinformation, and distrust. People are jumping to conclusions without have any info, much less full info. People are calling BS on them and dont trust them. They are claiming fraud when they dont even understand a lot of what they are looking at and that sort of thing catches on like wildfire(speaking of a BS talking point) and is impossible to extinguish. Some then claim government cant be trusted due to fraud while others claim government cant be trusted due to not even knowing what they are looking at.
It just further divides.
Shut the 17 up, determine what is actually happening, then be clear about your actions.
^ that is something I havent consistently seen from government in my time on this Earth, to be fair.
Deporting violent criminal gang members that are here illegally and have been convicted of crimes is, in general, definitely an improvement.
I supported this concept as a kid, as a young adult, and still now.
I have no reason to believe there will be actual meaningful long term debt/deficit reductions as a result of what has happened this past month. It will either end up being a drop in a bucket that doesnt move the needle, it will be more than wiped out because contract work has to come in and do things now(and contract work costs more), or something like tax cuts will more than offset everything.
Maybe I am pessimistic...I do cheer for MSU after all.
The way in which 'waste' is being exposed and slowed is completely irresponsible.
Its like their goal is to just cause massive disruption and then see how it all settles and go from there.
- The mass layoffs without understanding what some who are let go even do for the government is grossly irresponsible.
- The constant Tweets and press conferences where hot takes are given as soundbites, despite not fully even understanding what was 'discovered' or 'found' is grossly irresponsible.
- The inflation of savings, at times based on not understanding what they are even looking at, is grossly irresponsible.
- The attacking of private citizens when making claims in real time without actual analysis is grossly irresponsible.
- The hyperfocusing on objectionable projects as justification for shutting down a Department or Agency, despite that project being like 0.2% of the budget, is grossly irresponsible.
Not understanding what the word 'fraud' means is grossly irresponsible. My gosh, it just isnt a difficult word to define, yet here we are with it being incorrectly thrown about at record speed. There arent enough Princess Bride memes on the internet to fully address how often that word has been misused in the last month.
The way in which this 'waste' and 'fraud' has been 'exposed'(and yeah, quotes to all those terms for sure) is irresponsible. Its highly objectionable.
Shooting first and asking questions later is not how our government should operate and it definitely is not how employment and budgets should be reviewed.
If someone reviewed a fortune 500 global company for 1 day and then just started just mass firing random teams in Sales, R&D, Marketing, HR, Production, etc and claimed 'I have found the waste!'...they would be viewed as a total fraud(thats the correct use) and not taken seriously.
Yet here we are.
Standing in the Oval Office and talking for 10 minutes while Trump looks like he would rather be anywhere but there, and saying 'we will get a lot of stuff wrong' is grossly irresponsible. I cant imagine anyone on SPS hearing that from a manager and being like 'cool, that seems reasonable'.
Just shut the 17 up and dont speak until you know what you are talking about. Then speak and take action.
All Musk and Trump are doing right now is creating even more confusion, disinformation, and distrust. People are jumping to conclusions without have any info, much less full info. People are calling BS on them and dont trust them. They are claiming fraud when they dont even understand a lot of what they are looking at and that sort of thing catches on like wildfire(speaking of a BS talking point) and is impossible to extinguish. Some then claim government cant be trusted due to fraud while others claim government cant be trusted due to not even knowing what they are looking at.
It just further divides.
Shut the 17 up, determine what is actually happening, then be clear about your actions.
^ that is something I havent consistently seen from government in my time on this Earth, to be fair.
LOL. Show me a lefty who hates government. All they want to do is grow it. They’re literally throwing a temper tantrum right now because, checks notes, we’re auditing the way the government spends money. So you can take that both are bad garbage right back where you got it. Only one side of the aisle has even feigned limiting government.
Hold up- the taco food truck was short staffed because it had been previously staffed by violent illegal gang members who have since been deported?
You seem to be claiming this.
Why the 17 were you knowingly buying food from a taco truck that was staffed by violent illegal gang members?
The stats don't really support it but we can match anecdotes. I have a homeland friend and he is in fact much busier. I'm gathering his workload has shifted from the drugs/gang aspect towards taco trucks and restaurants. There's a human trafficking aspect of that that needs to be snuffed out so I'm not minimizing that importance. You have to bust a kitchen worker before you get the slave drivers but much of this is optics to show the community "we mean business" despite the deportation totals being low.
Fact is, we need Congress to create a better legal environment and adequately fund legal/executive processes to make things happen. The bottlenecks that have always been there are still there. Trump might be able to bully his way through a thing a two but ultimately he will be reigned back to what congress says he should and has the money to do. Money is the most important part here. Doesn't matter what Congress and the president say should happen - it's toothless if they don't fund the mechanisms to make it work. Don't let Trump make you believe he's solving anything unless there are some big time changes coming out of capitol building. Yell at your Rep and Senators to do something.
RE: Violent Criminal Gangs. I think a lot of that is performative. I haven't seen any reports of a precipitous drop in the crime rate. Maybe I've missed that. I get that it's early and I suppose we'll see, but all I've seen is Kristi Noem dressing up like a SWAT team member to look tough (because I guess shooting her dog didn't do that job). I live in Texas and nobody I'm around has talked about local gangs being rounded up. I have heard a few stories of children coming home from school to empty homes though.
RE: Waste Being Exposed. Speaking of performative, what has been exposed? All I've seen are Musk provided numbers with no actual basis in reality (like the "$8 Billion" that was found to be $8 Million). Most of the "waste" I've seen reported is just stuff that the Inspector Generals' offices (remember the guys they fired almost immediately?) previously identified. But Musk taking credit for the work of others is pretty much on-brand. Overall, OIG offices have an ROI of something like 26 to 1, meaning that for every $1 spent on that OIG, the government recovered $26. DOGE, by itself, is superfluous. Take this '5 bullet point' business. That will cost taxpayers something like $5 Million if every government employee took 5 minutes to do the bullet points. Then who's going to read it? Their supervisor? DOGE? OPM? That in itself is chaotic and wasteful.
"We" aren't doing anything. An unelected foreign national billionaire is doing it as a vanity project with no real regard for the health and safety of the country. That's the point of contention.
For waste, I was thinking of trany operas and circumcisions in foreign countries, but I guess not everyone considers that waste. I guess I shouldn’t speak for they
I'll pencil you in as a happy participant in the right/good left/bad train of thought that gets us nowhere. You're thinking the same way as the left/good right/bad temper tantrum throwers. The comparison earlier to your feelings being like sports was perfect. A lot of people get fired up for tribal politics. You have a team and you want to win. I get it. I wish I could view politics as simply as sports and have my own team. Would make life a lot easier tbh - having a team I thought was inherently good and a rival that was inherently evil. I wouldn't have to consider context or who was lying to me for votes.
Because they make an amazing taco and have a great sense of humor. You’d hate that place
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