Speaking of the COVID year, throw that out and the scores of the last three games in Ann Arbor have been losses of 49-10, 42-7 and 41-17. That is rough.
Postgame (Mich.) bltch thread
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Gentlemen, Gentlemen. Let's put this in its proper perspective. Is it not more important that the University has maintained it's high academic rating? Oh, wait a minute,
We were 5-0 coming into today, with some nice wins and some ugly ones, just like many other college football teams. What did you see in Allar today that made you think a true freshman was ready to lead this team on day 1 of his first season playing college football?
First question I would ask Franklin is “why can’t you play with the big boys”
Really wonder how serious they were about Franklin - I still think he could do well there (pre B1G merger), but Riley was a home run.
Because he would have at the most 40 yards on those 20 carries not winning football.
Poor in game play play calling, but seems like overall lack of toughness is a major problem. OL can't run block and allows too much pressure. D lets that little s-it RB look like a Heisman candidate. No where near enough pressure on UM QB from anywhere. Singleton has been mostly irrelevant the last couple games. Why do we play such soft coverage D? Teams move the ball all over the field on us. With such a supposedly stellar secondary...
What was to be gained this year having Clifford as first string QB with a 5-star QB on the roster?
What I saw was that linebacker play was atrocious and DBs took terrible angles on runners. Also, Franklin loves chunk plays and Clifford doesn't seem to have that ability. I think it is now Allar time. I was hoping in the 2nd half we'd ditch the read option and put Clifford under center. Let the line fire off the ball. I think itsnhard for our D to prepare for power running when the only time they see it is against scout team and in games.
Last time I expected to win these games was a few years before the Paterno era ended.
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I hate to get into the weeds but I personally believe that recruiting rankings are flawed. I’m watching the Tennessee vs. Alabama game and it’s as close as you’re going to get to NFL quality. Tennessee’s recruiting classes from 2019-2022 are as follows 13, 11, 22 and 17. I firmly believe Michigan’s recruiting classes are taking on an SEC approach which explains how quickly they closed the gap on OSU. JMHO
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Not even sure what to say at this point. Need some time to digest this game. I thought PSU actually had a chance to win. Some expected a win. I NEVER expected a performance like this game. At this point albeit it's not all his fault, I am ready to move on from the Clifford era. Put Allar in and build towards next season. Is this season totally over? No... but I am just ready to move on at this point. For the coaching staff, well Franklin needs to take a long hard look at himself and his assistants. Record coming of bye's is atrocious. Both lines got dominated. If this is what they came up with for a scheme and 2 weeks to prepare, I don't have hope for this program in the future for being a Big 10 Champion.
Most of the people here complaining about Franklin are the same people who got hard when he was hired. Remember how y’all went around chanting that stupid “Dominate the State” slogan right after he stepped off the plane?
Franklin was always a salesman.
Franklin was always a salesman.
This deserves its own thread, but not looking to give Tom more headaches…
USA Today names Franklin #2 Most Overpaid Coach in CFB (behind Fisher); on his fourth contract in 9 years…wow.
The most overpaid coaches in college football? The list starts with Texas A&M’s Jimbo Fisher
The Aggies' coach, who is in his fifth season in College Station, is making $9 million with no SEC titles or playoff appearances to show for it.www.usatoday.com
Total compensation: $8,500,000
If potential was the standard on which companies based their employees' worth in terms of dollars, Franklin would top this list every year. In his ninth season at Penn State, he is already on his fourth contract. Franklin has won about two-thirds of his games with the school, but for a total compensation of $8.5 million, the Nittany Lions should be dominating the competition. Penn State has won one Big Ten title during his tenure and that was six seasons ago, but it upped the dough when Franklin’s name was attached to the Southern California opening, despite the team being on its way to a 7-6 campaign in 2021.
seems the Mich State coach should be on that list
We have dominated the state recruiting since he's been here.
Wondering if we can petition the big ten for no bye weeks next season.
The only person who "bought" the USC rumor was Sandy Barbour.
We can’t even get a God D**n occasional first down half the time. Indiana and Maryland played Michigan much more competitive and that’s just ridiculous
I don’t mind those who had hope and were excited over a new hire and are now disappointed or off the wagon after 9 years. That’s normal for being a fan and it’s based on results.
I’d have more issue with those who put their head in the sand and twist themselves into pretzels making excuses.
There literally was a post in another thread where someone listed Franklin’s record against OSU, UM, and MSU, (7-18), and it was met with mocking about “bringing negativity”.
It’s……literally……his…..record.
They tried to dismiss it as unreasonable and just being negative. That’s all you need to know when just stating his record is defined as ‘negativity’.
This in a nut shell. There are a ton of skill position players. There are only so many OL & DL. The teams that are 'elite' have great lines.
You think your two freshman running backs match Corum and Edwards? LOL neck and neck in recuiting skill players!
I knew some people who experienced 10th grade more than once. Not sure his experience has advanced as it should for the amount of time invested.
Anyone else think our route trees never change? It seemed like UM DBs were always on the inside of our cuts all day? That's all tendency and good coaching from UM.
PSU hasn't been "competitive" for the most part with tOSU and Michigan since joining the Big Ten. During the Big Ten era, Joe's teams were 7-13 against tOSU (technically 7-12 since tOSU had the 2010 win vacated) and 6-10 vs Michigan. PSU has not been a top program for decades.
“Tackling” sucks. Elsdon’s attempt in particular should be an embarrassment.
Which means little given how Pennsylvania has fallen with regards to producing IA players.
First of all, I referenced the unbiased On3 consensus rankings, not my personal opinion. So there is that small matter that undermines your attempt at banter.
Nevertheless, to answer your question more directly, Yes...if Singleton and Allen had the gaping holes that Corum and Edwards had, they absolutely would have similar statistics. The difference in this game was clearly the line play, and the On3 consensus interestingly indicates that OL and DL are the positions that Michigan has out-recruited PSU since 2019 despite PSU having higher overall class ratings in some of those years.
Sorry, Tom, but many of us feel that your and other’s policing of the threads has taken the fun out of the site. Let us go rogue once in a while, please. AfraId to post anymore because someone will say I didn’t post in the proper place. Has a real chilling effect, IMHO.
Legit question- does Clifford change plays at the line or does Franklin override MY’s calls. It seems head scratching when you look at the plays called …
Also, Clifford is PSU true, but Allar needs to play. I’d rather go w an experienced #2 in Clifford. Allar makes quicker decisions and doesn’t hold on to the ball.
Also, Clifford is PSU true, but Allar needs to play. I’d rather go w an experienced #2 in Clifford. Allar makes quicker decisions and doesn’t hold on to the ball.
Saquon Barkley made a lot of people look real good.
Yes, I'd rather be 10-2 than 8-4, but if we are crushed by UM and OSU where does that leave us really?
It's not as if we are closing in at playing at their level. At this point our ceiling seems to be competing for
third place in our division.
To what end? Here PSU is again unable to compete, looking unprepared after a bye week. Maybe you're right. It's the coaching that's letting the program down.
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