So, "applying pressure to the car in front of them" (your words-aka tailgating) is considered a very controlled driver? No wonder they call 'em MASSh**es.
PSA re Passing Etiquette
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What's funny is this clown, @Moogy , actually thinks he's a "expert" driver. Here's his quote on "applying pressure" from a reply to me.
"If you aren't willing to press the issue and apply a little pressure to the guy in front of you, even if the problem child driver is 5 or 6 cars in front of you, then you need to get over to the right and allow those with some balls to apply pressure to the car in front of them."
You have to love the "even if the problem child driver is 5 or 6 cars in front of you". He must be really important.
Here's another classic from Moogy:What's funny is this clown, @Moogy, actually thinks he's a "expert" driver. Here's his quote on "applying pressure" from a reply to me.
"If you aren't willing to press the issue and apply a little pressure to the guy in front of you, even if the problem child driver is 5 or 6 cars in front of you, then you need to get over to the right and allow those with some balls to apply pressure to the car in front of them."
You have to love the "even if the problem child driver is 5 or 6 cars in front of you". He must be really important.
"My Buick Enclave does a nice 85-90 on the highway quite nicely, and it's big enough to block all the motorsicles and rice rockets"
Yes, it's a true classic from another thread a week or so ago. I still can't believe this guy, @Moogy , typed:
"My "attitude" results in efficient, conscientious driving. Safer driving."
Yes, I'm a very controlled driver. And much safer than you, obviously, given your suggestion that you're going to block someone trying to pass you, going from lane to lane to do so ... which is INSANELY dangerous.
Cool. It's the truth, but nowadays, the truth doesn't matter. So you just sit there and make up your own reality.
No, I claimed 2 speeding tickets, received when I was in college, in the mid-90s. Neither were received on the highway.
What in the hell is wrong with you people? 85-90 is EXTREMELY normal up here on the highways. The majority of the time when I'm cruising at 85-90, there's an entire line of people doing the same. I'm not some badass rebel flying down the highway. It's typical cruising speed in the left lane. Occasionally you'll catch up to some clueless/selfish nut doing 80 in the left lane, not realizing they need to get over, but they're the exception. It's completely friggin' normal driving speed. No one is batting an eye when you're doing 85-90 on I95, I495 or I93 ... unless it's rush hour, of course.
You are some weird people. Are you all just really, really old, and the folks everyone else sees hunched over the steering wheel driving 55 on the highway while everyone else is wishing you'd just stop driving already ... or have you just not driven in a normally populated place with actual, functioning 3 lane highways?
So now you're a liar. He never said that and you know he never said that.
Here's what he said ...
"Agree 100% Tioga. If I’m in the left lane passing vehicles in the right and some a-hole behind me decides I’m not going fast enough to suit them and starts tailgating, well that 5 seconds to pass the car on the right just turned into 40 and I’ll make damn sure he can’t get past me on the right."
So, he's saying if someone tailgates him because he's in the passing lane and not going fast enough, he's going to purposely slow down (so that it's going to take him 40 seconds to pass the car on the right, rather than 5 seconds) ... and then he says he's going to make "damn sure he can't get past me on the right"? How's he going to do that, big guy? Once he passes that car ... 40 seconds later ... how's he preventing the guy from getting past him on the right, if he's not going into that lane to block him?
Guys, you're acting insane. Knock it off.
I guess reading comprehension is lacking in MA as well. Very simple, if I see the tailgater behind me move to the right to pass I’ll just speed up so he can’t pass me, not going into the other lane to block him.
I feel like one of two things is happening:
1. I'm being "Punk'd"
2. I've stumbled across some crazy subsection of society that somehow has access to computers and the internet, but has never been on a highway, or maybe even seen 4 wheeled engine-powered vehicles.
There's no other way any of this makes any sense.
1. I'm being "Punk'd"
2. I've stumbled across some crazy subsection of society that somehow has access to computers and the internet, but has never been on a highway, or maybe even seen 4 wheeled engine-powered vehicles.
There's no other way any of this makes any sense.
Ah, so if there's a tailgater, you're going to slow down and create a dangerous situation there ... and then you're going to speed up and drive at a speed that you considered dangerous, just to spite someone, again creating a dangerous situation ... and, in doing so, you'll almost assuredly have to tailgate the car in front of you to ensure the other driver can't slip into the lane ahead of you, creating another dangerous situation, according to you.
You're an obvious problem on the road. Get that road rage taken care of ... but do so in the right lane, where you belong.
Eh, I don’t claim to be a saint, I admit I’m a prick behind the wheel. I just hate tailgaters. I’ll brake check you, etc. I’ll move over if I see someone at speed coming up behind me,just don’t tailgate me. I just don’t see the point of moving over if there is a line ahead of me all going at the same speed.
not to mention that no Buick Enclave is remotely fast enough to be "blocking" sportbikes
There is no single speed so fast I consider it dangerous. Everything needs context, of course. I was pretty clear on that earlier. I've never really been into speed and driving fast for the sake of the rush. I drive with the flow of traffic and what feels good, comfortable and easy to control. Like I've said, on most of 95 in MA, 85-90 is pretty chill when there isn't a ton of traffic, but when you get just outside of Providence, I-95 turns into a slalom-course, with a ton of S-curves, so I always drop my speed way down, get in the middle lane (lots of merging and exiting in the right lane, so best to avoid), and hope none of the nuts bump into me as they're zipping in and out of lanes. It's situation dependent.
Why? Do you have a speed so fast you consider it dangerous? If so, what is it, and why?
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Don't see a lot of "sportbikes" around here. Actually, I don't know what qualifies as a "sportbike," nor do I really care. Motorcycles are blocked from trying to scoot up in between lanes when at red lights and the such.
Only a true a-hole would block motorcycles from getting to the front of the line where they can't pose a danger to anyone. You do realize this, don't you?
No, I don't realize this, because I'm normal, reasonable and civilized. You must be the other guy. If I'm in my car, and I'm 3rd in line at a red light, I'm 3rd in line at a red light. ****'s crazy like that. If I'm on my motorcycle, I've obviously suffered serious head trauma and given up on life, but, regardless, and I'm 3rd in line a a red light, I'm 3rd in line at a red light. I don't have the right to scoot up in between cars to be first in line. Later, if we're in a passing zone, they can pass me. If we're eventually on a highway, and I'm in the left lane, and they scoot up behind me, I'll move over to let them pass. If, instead, they're on the highway and they don't wait for folks to move over for them, and instead decide to cut in between cars and make their own lanes whilst doing so ... well, if later in the trip there's a big fiery explosion ahead of me, and it's that guy and his motorsickle, and no one else is hurt, I'll just shrug and drive by. Doing 90. Like everybody else.
Anything above 80 is definitely pushing it. That’s 15-25 mph above most speed limits. You do know that at 90 mph it takes about 2 football fields to stop on a dry road, including reaction time and braking time. The braking distances rise rapidly with speed.
With all due respect, you are either incredibly naive or stupid.
What's the stopping distance at 80 mph? The stopping distance at 60 mph is a full football field. At 90, slightly under 2 full football fields. Do you feel safe stopping at a full football field's length? I mean, that's under many 65 mph speed limits.
Under each scenario (60 or 90), if you need to stop immediately, in a linear fashion, you're totally effed.
At 80 mph, it's 1 1/2 football fields. So, stopping time of 1 1/2 football fields is acceptable ...but 2 football fields is totes dangerous? And 1 football field (60 mph) is totes safe?
You seem like you have no clue of the outside world, but just want to rage, regardless.
I invite you to drive up through MA on I-95 on a weekend, and try to drive the speed limit. If you're for real, you'll be clutching the steering wheel with your hands at 10 and 2 (no longer recommended) screaming "OMG! OMG!" for 2+ hours as you watch every single car on the road blow by you.
Again, 85-90 cruising speed is very common. No one gets pulled over. Many cars drive that speed very normally and smoothly. I'm not some radical hot rodder blowing through traffic, skating in and out of lanes like a wild man.
You guys are acting like insane people. Stay in the backwoods of PA, or whatever similar backward area in which you currently reside. Civilization begs you.
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