PSU Football Academics???
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@Tom McAndrew could you please ask someone in IT to figure out why some users handles are now showing as "Anonxxxxxxxxxxxx"? It causing some confusion and seems to be getting worse.
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OK.... that seems to be working (more or less).
Screen name is now posting (with the slight modification from PSUFTG to PSUFTG2)
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I think itās an elaborate conspiracy perpetrated by the old-guard bot.
Another ******** metric concocted by the NCAA so member presidents wouldn't have to answer embarrassing questions about why their football players weren't graduating.
They could never pull that off on their own. Must've hired Louie B. Freeh to do their dirty work.
The Weather thread! Now that Tom has gotten rid of itā¦ our numbers will skyrocket!
It's real simple, Bob. APR starts with a maximum score of 1000. then there are deductions for:
a. transfers/ dropouts and/or
b. those academically ineligible.
The numbers cited in the article are for academic year 2021-22. The books on 2022-23 should have closed or are pretty close. One would guess that Franklin has a good fix on what they're going to be. That he didn't even hint at an improvement isn't confidence building.
FB post from Brandon Short:
Penn State Football - Academic Performance
Iām a proud product of Joe Paternoās grand experiment. I truly value my Penn State education and believe that our football program is continuing to prioritize academic performance. The NCAA looks at two measures of academic accountability 1) Graduation Rates 2) Academic Progress.
PSU footballs current graduation rate is 89%, which is nine points higher than the Division I football average and is a two-point increase from 2021. The football programās 89% graduation rate is in line with our historic graduation rate under the late great Joe Paterno. While academic progress is important, the most important factor in changing our student athletesā lives is graduating from Penn State.
The news story focused on academic progress to create a negative narrative for the story. The NCAA is currently reviewing whether to continue utilizing the academic progress metric in the future as there are many factors that can bring down programs score that do not relate to academic performance. For example, Penn State lost 13 points on this yearās academic progress due to:
Players who already earned their undergraduate degrees, were using an additional year of eligibility available to them due to COVID and all went on to pursue NFL careers
Players who transferred out of the program following the season and are not known to continue their education elsewhere
A player who had a career-ending heart condition and did not meet eligibility requirements after learning of this condition
If these points had been included Penn Stateās score would have been in line with our historical average. The NCAA allows programs to appeal lost points given that there many factors that do not reflect academic performance. And Penn State is currently, appealing these lost points through the NCAA.
James Franklin and Pat Kraft are continuing to prioritize academics and they are being held accountable.
You may not be aware, but there are a small group of people at Penn State who are actively working to undermine our football program. The information in this news story has been available to the public for close to a year. However, the story was published one week before the start of a new season. Itās sad to say, but if feels like this story was solely written in an attempt to intentionally undermine football a head of a season when there so much excitement around the program.
Academic performance is and always will be a priority at Penn State.
So you think the academic situation for football student-athletes is actually as dire as it appears to be to Joe Blow on the street?
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Depends on your definition of "dire." This is what I believe:
1. the "academic situation" for football players is nowhere near as rosy as the NCAA portrays, and, more importantly,
2. the muckety-mucks don't give a rat's *** what it is.
If it went back to 1000 for 2022-23 and nobody reported on it ā which they wonāt because that doesnāt attract readers ā would you, me, or anyone else notice? Itās such a ridiculous metric and means absolutely nothing as far as the academic performance of PSU athletics. But for a lonely sole employed by Spotlight PA whose only job is to dig up dirt on PSU, this is a complete non-factor.
Youāre probably right but weāve all been justifiably proud of The Grand Experiment and itās important to me that this continue to be a priority for PSUFB.
You can be sure that if the number went to 1,000 the spin-doctors employed by PSU would report it extensively.
I pretty much don't pay much attention to the NCAA's academic metrics because they're only designed to allow university presidents to avoid embarrassment. Apparently PSU doesn't feel the same way.
I believe it is. But in todayās world of the portal and an uber-competitive football landscape, the NCAA progress metric is woefully outdated. Much like the NCAA itself. Grad rates and GPA for the football program are still a priority and something of which we can all be proud.
Really? Then I'll start by asking what should be a relatively simple question: in any given year, how many football players receive degrees from PSU?
It's public information.I wonder who is giving that reporter that dirt?PSUFTG = PSU For the grudge.
I cannot imagine it not being true that the situation as perceived by "Joe Blow" is far, far more rosy than the reality.
I don't know if it matters.
In broad terms, if people so strongly want to believe something that makes them feel good - no matter how disconnected it be from reality - who cares? Let them feel good (so long as they are not the folks responsible for the mess).
Now, if such a response extends to those responsible for the mess - and the requisite clean up - then THAT is a problem.
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I donāt wear rose-colored glasses. āLet them feel good as long as theyāre not the folks responsible for the messā is for SEC fans. Right now Iām just trying to get a handle on what exactly the situation is. I understand that you might be belittling my concerns because youāre (justifiably) more concerned that the people responsible dgaf, but itās not easy to throw out a lifetime of believing that PSU has always done it the right way.
Oh my - I don't disagree with you in the slightest. Certainly not belittling those concerns.
Just expressing condolences for those who share those concerns (you can count me among them).
Maybe a bit flippant on my part - because I know there is a huge population that just doesn't care, and prefers to be read soliloquys and bedtime stories (and I don't really have any problems with those folks either). It is what it is.
But yeah, it does cause consternation when I see that from responsible parties.
Okay, fair enough. I get it. About your handle, just for the record, youāre not BF?
Oh no, that's me.
I explained that in a post a while back (some tech FUBAR - above my non-tech paygrade - that wouldn't allow my old "handle" to post.... but more or less fixed now, I hope)
None of that matters to me anymore. Joe did it the right way and the NCAA and school itself **** all over him. Now I just want Penn State to win. Donāt go to class, donāt graduate, buy the players, whatever. At this point, just win baby!
Looking at 39 current players sorted by jersey number we have the following. Intends, Would like, and Planning in quotes was taken from their "personal bio" statement on the roster page of gopsusports.
2 - "Intends" to major in Communications
1 - "Would like" to major in Communications
1 - "Intends" to major in Business or Engineering
1 - "Would like" to major in Computer Science
1 - "Would like" to major in Business
2 - "Intends" to major in Business
1 - "Planning" on majoring in Business
1 - "Intends" to major in Sports Medicine. - Someone should tell him that this isn't an undergraduate degree
3 - No mention anywhere
22 - DUS
1 - Rehab and Human Services
2 - Rec Parks
1 - Communications
So, based on the above, does Kraft/Franklin/anyone at PSU take academics seriously?
2 - "Intends" to major in Communications
1 - "Would like" to major in Communications
1 - "Intends" to major in Business or Engineering
1 - "Would like" to major in Computer Science
1 - "Would like" to major in Business
2 - "Intends" to major in Business
1 - "Planning" on majoring in Business
1 - "Intends" to major in Sports Medicine. - Someone should tell him that this isn't an undergraduate degree
3 - No mention anywhere
22 - DUS
1 - Rehab and Human Services
2 - Rec Parks
1 - Communications
So, based on the above, does Kraft/Franklin/anyone at PSU take academics seriously?
Well, Iām not going to try to dissuade you.
When I was in grad school I once asked another math grad student if heād be interested in catching a Terp MBB game. (I knew that he regularly attended Wizards games.) āHell no, college sports is BS and anyone who thinks otherwise is a damn fool.ā Soā¦
I was trying to be optimistic about PSU with the first game of a new season just a few days away, but f*ck it. I hate us. I f*cking hate us. We suck at everything. I f*cking hate us.
Football graduation rate is reported to be 89%. So, I guess 89% of the players eligible to graduate receive degrees in any given year. Is that a relatively simple answer to your relatively simple question?
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