You lost at “trump oversaw the fbi”.
I know you are too dumb or dishonest to put that together.
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I know you are too dumb or dishonest to put that together.
I’ll take “A Complete Lack Of Self Awareness” for $1000, Alex.
Good gracious alive, y’all.
Good gracious alive, y’all.
I agree with almost every single conservative comment on here, but find it absolutely tiresome reading ALL the comments. Have you ever convinced someone to change their viewpoint on any social media, much less a message board?
I mean talking about not being able to control emotions.
Its real simple. Just don't read the threads you don't like.
For the record, i'm ok if they stop every political or potentially political thread in its tracks. Just do it from the onset though.
I finally can came to the same conclusion, especially when things started to sound personal in their tone. More importantly, what do you actually get if you win one of these arguments? A personal call from Biden or Trump?
I would like to think if we all actually met face-to-face, we would act much differently.
Yeah he could have fired fauci too or demoted him but we all know how both of those things would have went over.
But you do you man.
I’d take a call from the South Dakota governor
I don’t think so. Covid made things more open just because we had nothing to talk about. We had a post a couple of weeks ago complaining about threads being locked too soon. If posters are legitimately leaving because of these threads please let me know and I will lock **** up real fast. I can promise you when the foot hits the first ball in August it will tighten up for sure.
Again, everything that I posted earlier was correct. The other poster claimed something, it was a baseless claim, and I provided reason showing it was baseless.
You simply dislike the reality, so you post these responses that are related to the discussion, but don't acknowledge the reality.
Trump was a lame duck president for approximately 8 weeks. A lot of those cases were heard after Biden was inaugurated.
Even if they weren't know one was going to stick their neck out for trump.
Also, most of those cases didn't say there wasn't election interference. They said they didnt have the proof to take the case.
Again, that didn't stop you bozos from yelling "RUSSIAN COLLUSION" for 4 17ing years.
I can't- I don't know what you are referring to.
Is it the claims that were made from the 2016 election almost 7 years ago? Is it some conspiracy about collusion that's current?
Is it the claim that Putin and Trump are in bed? Is is the claim that Putin and some connection to Biden are in bed?
Regardless, what I posted and you responded to with 'now do Russian collusion', is all accurate. Your 'now do' response is typical- it doesn't address or acknowledge what was olbeing discussed and instead pivots off it into an attempt to make a different point.
I haven't yelled about 2016 Russian collusion.
It has been clearly shown that Russian trolls absolutely flooded Twitter and social media with support for Trump and attacks on Clinton.
But I have no idea how much that actually swayed the election, if at all.
It very well could have made no impact at all- I don't know.
I personally saw all the over the top memes, gifs, and fake articles and dismissed them as obviously fake. So if most/all others did the same, then there would be no actual impact from the Russian efforts.
So yeah, another whiff from you - I haven't yelled about that.
You are just stupid.
Trump was blasted for 4 years and still is now about russian collusion. Your party did that. No one else did.
If you thought it was BS, why do you support those people who blasted it 24/7 and still are now?
More mental gymnastics coming in 3, 2, 1...........
Who are the people I support who blasted it 24/7 and continue to do so?
If someone I support was pushing the Russian Collusion narrative, perhaps they don't now. Or if they still do, perhaps I view other initiatives/interests/goals of theirs as more important.
You see, I have yet to know of a candidate who I agree with 100% of the time. As such, I must then decide to either fully reject them for the small things I disagree with, or I need to accept that where our interests align outweigh where our views diverge.
Again, it must be exhausting to have so much perpetual outrage.
I guess you can quibble and nitpick over what the exact definition of "collusion" is, but it was the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee that came to this conclusion in 2020:
Senate report outlines 'grave' Russian threat in 2016 election probe
The Senate Intelligence Committee released its final report on Russian interference in the 2016 elections, detailing ties with the Trump campaign.
The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday released the final report on its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, finding numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow posed a "grave" counterintelligence threat.
"We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in a statement, directly refuting President Donald Trump's repeated assertions that Russian interference was a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats.
The committee, however, did not find any evidence of a coordinated scheme between the Trump campaign and Moscow, Rubio said.
The nearly 1,000-page report outlines the "breathtaking level of contacts between Trump officials and Russian government operatives that is a very real counterintelligence threat to our elections," Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., the committee’s top Democrat, said in a statement.
The bipartisan congressional report closes the panel's three-year probe into the Kremlin-led operation to influence and interfere in the 2016 presidential election. The fifth and final report involved interviewing 200 witnesses and examining more than 1 million documents, the committee said.
Tell me about it. You libs are always mad.
Mad at civilians defending themselves
Mad bc orange man is a meanie weenie
Mad bc the rich aren’t taxed enough
Always victims
Not collusionI guess you can quibble and nitpick over what the exact definition of "collusion" is, but it was the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee that came to this conclusion in 2020:
Senate report outlines 'grave' Russian threat in 2016 election probe
The Senate Intelligence Committee released its final report on Russian interference in the 2016 elections, detailing ties with the Trump campaign.rollcall.com
The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday released the final report on its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, finding numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow posed a "grave" counterintelligence threat.
Russia can be meddling in elections without trump being involved even though trump had communications with some Russians.
still no proof of collusion.
See no collusion.
Still no collusion.
So 3 years and 5 reports and NO COLLUSION.
For the record, I don’t think trump is some morally superior man by any means.
i don’t think he’s anymore misogynistic than say bill Clinton or other politicians either.
i don’t really care either.
i want results. Our system is broken and shaking things up is good.
Trump also had some results and without COVID he’d easily be president right now. Mail in voting doomed him and it may doom any republicans chance in the near future if we don’t ballot harvest like the dems.
Like I said, you're free to nitpick and contrive a definition of "collusion" that doesn't fit these facts, but it's clearly not merely a "Democratic hoax" and it's clearly not only Democrats ( "No one else did") who've raised the issue of meddling and contact between his campaign (for example Paul Manafort) and Russian officials.
What do you mean "if we don't ballot harvest like the dems" ? Mail-ins and drop-offs are a key factor in Republican efforts in Florida, Arizona, Utah, Oregon, and plenty of other states, including every swing state in 2020. The system didn't beat your guy in 2020, he just blew it with his personality and performance. Any state party (Republican or Democratic) that doesn't know how to compete with mail-in voting can easily get a lesson in it from another state's party if need be.
It clearly isn’t collusion.
I’m sorry you didn’t find the boogeyman you were looking for.
how about working with a 3rd party to dig up dirt on trump. Or how about “colluding” with a 3rd party to dig up dirt on trump. Aka the very fake Steele dossier.
Why is "collusion" the only thing that matters on this issue? The Mueller Report found sufficient evidence of crimes that merited impeachment. That matters to the rest of us.
Without Russian illegal acts Trump never wins in 2016. Not a fact but damn near one.
You do realize all this "ballot harvesting" was, was Dems efficiently getting people that supported them and wanted to vote for them to get their vote legally submitted and counted, right? Without the unnecessary restrictions on voting carefully constructed to put a thumb on the scale for Republicans, yall would never win, and yes you'll have to find ways to reestablish that to continue you're minority rule ways.
I'll try to find the study but there was one done on mail in voting and it showed that republicans and democrats use mail in voting at similar levels. So the idea that it only benefits democrats isn't remotely close to a fact.
ETA - This isn't the study but it's a story that references a couple of different ones: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/us/vote-by-mail-coronavirus.html
If you don't want to read the whole article (or if it's paywalled), here's a relevant quote:
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Facts & reality are meaningless, they have a known liberal bias.
Honestly, I like to understand what people are thinking and this is a diverse forum. Also, and I do not mean this as some backhanded dig, most of my family falls between full on MAGA "cult" member, and "I don't really like Trump, but I still think he is a better choice than the libs." Feedback here gives me some idea of what the fam is thinking, hearing, believing, so it helps me know how/if I should interact when they begin blow harding about Biden taking away my gas stove. I feel like my old party has jumped the shark, and all for DT, and I cannot understand it at all.
I also make it a goal not to personalize it or call names on here, because I wouldn't do that in person. It is completely possible that at least one person on this board who hates me for not toeing any party line, is a friend IRL...
Ha, so over the weekend I heard a synopsis of a vote that failed last week concerning gas stoves.
Apparently Matt Gates and others are so pissed at McCarthy for coming to an agreement with Biden on the debt ceiling that they are going to do what they can to tank votes moving forward until the group feels McCarthy understands he needs to 'be in a monogamous relationship with us and not get in the car' with others. It was an odd quote from Gates.
Anyways...
- 5 months ago, Republicans and conservative media misrepresents a topic and it takes off like a wildfire on social media since it is such a sensationalized topic and so over the top sounding. Outrage ensues.
- Biden is blamed for wanting to take our stoves, its claimed all gas stoves will be banned, etc etc. In reality, a CPSC employee said that 'any option is on the table. Products that cant be made safe can be banned' when discussing the connection between gas stoves and indoor pollution as well as childhood asthma. The employee also said that options besides a ban include 'setting standards on emissions from the appliances.'
- Again, Republican representatives and conservative media lose their collective mind and just make stuff up in addition to or instead of what was said. Hysteria and outrage are everywhere.
- McCarthy tried to get a vote passed that would ban gas stoves being banned last week.
- Some of the very people who were hysterical and outraged over the misrepresented comments from 5 months ago then had the chance to actually vote in support of what they were outraged over and instead voted against it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ga...ouse-republicans-express-frustration-mccarthy
^ If you laid this out for a 12 year old to analyze, they would look at you with total confusion. That is how completely dumb our representatives are- their actions dont even make sense to a 12 year old.
And sure, it could be claimed that they are actually being really smart and playing great politics, but in the end they didnt even support something that they were furious over.
Add Bobert on video running in panic to get to a vote she had missed, then claiming on video she actually chose to not participate in the vote because she disagreed with the vote(thats why you vote 'no'!) even though video of her running to the vote clearly shows otherwise, and it is no surprise that the upcoming election will be something straight out of South Park.
Legislators are clowns(both sides) and I will take a big sigh of regret and shake my head in sadness at whoever manages to become President.
Mine is I've noticed a big upticket in "Uniparty" complaints after the debt ceiling fiasco. Because it can't be that the far right position was unworkable and was never intended to become law (because if it did chaos and destruction would follow, and Big Corps don't want that), no, it has to be that it's all a con that all of them are in on.Ha, so over the weekend I heard a synopsis of a vote that failed last week concerning gas stoves.
Apparently Matt Gates and others are so pissed at McCarthy for coming to an agreement with Biden on the debt ceiling that they are going to do what they can to tank votes moving forward until the group feels McCarthy understands he needs to 'be in a monogamous relationship with us and not get in the car' with others. It was an odd quote from Gates.
Anyways...
- 5 months ago, Republicans and conservative media misrepresents a topic and it takes off like a wildfire on social media since it is such a sensationalized topic and so over the top sounding. Outrage ensues.
- Biden is blamed for wanting to take our stoves, its claimed all gas stoves will be banned, etc etc. In reality, a CPSC employee said that 'any option is on the table. Products that cant be made safe can be banned' when discussing the connection between gas stoves and indoor pollution as well as childhood asthma. The employee also said that options besides a ban include 'setting standards on emissions from the appliances.'
- Again, Republican representatives and conservative media lose their collective mind and just make stuff up in addition to or instead of what was said. Hysteria and outrage are everywhere.
- McCarthy tried to get a vote passed that would ban gas stoves being banned last week.
- Some of the very people who were hysterical and outraged over the misrepresented comments from 5 months ago then had the chance to actually vote in support of what they were outraged over and instead voted against it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ga...ouse-republicans-express-frustration-mccarthy
^ If you laid this out for a 12 year old to analyze, they would look at you with total confusion. That is how completely dumb our representatives are- their actions dont even make sense to a 12 year old.
And sure, it could be claimed that they are actually being really smart and playing great politics, but in the end they didnt even support something that they were furious over.
Add Bobert on video running in panic to get to a vote she had missed, then claiming on video she actually chose to not participate in the vote because she disagreed with the vote(thats why you vote 'no'!) even though video of her running to the vote clearly shows otherwise, and it is no surprise that the upcoming election will be something straight out of South Park.
Legislators are clowns(both sides) and I will take a big sigh of regret and shake my head in sadness at whoever manages to become President.
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