Realistic improvements that would make Starkville a kick-*** college town....

patdog

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As long as it's aesthetically pleasing, if that's even possible.

Aesthetically pleasing has taken a pretty big hit from the beautiful housing developments on the Hwy 25 bypass and on Hwy 82 east of town. I cringe in embarrassment whenever I have to drive past those with coworkers on the way to Columbus.</p>
 

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redid the entire front of the building (new plaster, new awning, new paint, etc.) office max is going in. the chinese buffet is awesome now. has three main buffet bins/lines and one of them is filled with sushi (its what i call "mississippi metropolitan" to have a sushi buffet). the parking lot is next to be done (i think).

it looks a ton better.
 

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was to turn the area of campus with the Hump, Dudy-Noble, the track, and tennis facility into pedestrian "downtown-ish" thing with shops, restaurants, bars if we dare be so liberal, and grassy areas for tailgating.

Demolish the Regal Inn and put an Irish Pub in there with Dave's with an open courtyard between the two. That way you can get stoned in Daves then go grab a pint of Guinness in the pub where there will be no suits of armor to eff with your head.</p>

A rails to trails type thing from Starkville to the Natchez Trace intersection with Hwy 12 in Ethel.</p>

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DerHntr

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the move out to hwy 82 bypass is smart. call it sprawl all you want and i guess technically it is but it sure as hell isn't similar to sprawl like other places (for example hattiesburg). from the end of the bypass to lee blvd intersection on the west end of the junction is 1.7 miles. the land between the end of the bypass and campus will likely fill in, be it slowly, over the years. is it that hard for the university to have a shuttle going back and forth in that area on game day? i don't think so. it is one road and it would be a very quick ride back and forth to campus. hell i would pay for that service in a heart beat as long as i can get my cooler on there.

also the best part of this "sprawl" is it has to end at the highway because of no roads beyond the highway. so they have started building all the way at the end of it to get the traffic of customers exiting the highway for starkville and it should fill in towards town over time.
 
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I'm all for reopening the Lakeside Drive-In too.
 

Mjoelner

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Like Cowbell said, the cotton district is land-locked so you're not going to get many more people in there due to the serious lack of parking that already exists. I think that law you're talking about still exists but there are so many ways around it that it is impossible to enforce.
 

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....would instantly send many, many people to their graves.

It might cut down on vehicle incidents, acohol related and not, since you wouldn't have to hop in your car to have a beer something besides Subway or cafeteria food.

I've always thought that would be a nice option for any public university.
 

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Seshomoru said:
was to turn the area of campus with the Hump, Dudy-Noble, the track, and tennis facility into pedestrian "downtown-ish" thing with shops, restaurants, bars if we dare be so liberal, and grassy areas for tailgating.

Demolish the Regal Inn and put an Irish Pub in there with Dave's with an open courtyard between the two. That way you can get stoned in Daves then go grab a pint of Guinness in the pub where there will be no suits of armor to eff with your head.</p>

A rails to trails type thing from Starkville to the Natchez Trace intersection with Hwy 12 in Ethel.</p>

Bars on campus is never going to happen. We are a land grant institution so that takes that option completely out of the mix. YEARS ago Coors had interest in giving a healthy amount of money for a new Union with the understanding that they would do business there, things were looked into. No chance!</p>
 

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but everyone else was so gung ho that i didn't interject. oh 17, i was being a sheep. 17 me running.
 
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restuarant is guys drooling over an *** of the Day thread on a sports message board.

To help make it a "kick *** college town" State just needs the city to make a concentrated effort to make tailgating an "experience" to be had in Starkville. There should be a nice strip of bars/family restuarants and small shops within walkin distance of the stadium. You don't have to have specific restuarants. Just make the city isn't fighting the progress.
 

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This is my life so...quick and easy..

"growth however we can get it" Wrong answer.

- Intelligent, sustainable infill development expanding downtown and Cotton District. And if you think there isn't room for it, you ought to take a look at an aerial photo.

- Interesting, unique, high-quality locally owned and operated bars and restaurants.

- Take a field trip to downtown Athens, and that is your answer, pretty much.

- If the elongated ******** that is Highway 12 rots on the vine to the benefit of a denser, expanded and thriving downtown center... then good.
 

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and the fact that a legitimate (or two or three) 4 to 5 star restaurant can't sustain itself in Vegas is a travesty. I imagine Sunday sales may help with this. If I knew how to run a SERIOUSLY good restaurant, and there were Sunday sales in Starkville, I'd certainly look into it. NO competition. And all of the people about to say "Veranda" which is really the only reasonable defense...yeah... it's good... like maybe 3 star good. And that IS the best. Every time a new restaurant opens that people kind of think is going to be the great new place, it turns into a ******** that has terrible service, rank barfood and has to sustain itself by cowtowing to idiot drunken 21 year olds. And while we're at it, can we get two more bars where regional/national acts come play - see 40 Watt.
 

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Hooters or Buffalo Wild Wings aren't coming to Starkville or Oxford if they can't serve beer on Sundays. Sundays during football season is when they make serious bank.

NFL Baby. Biggest days for sports bars by far.
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A good, locally owned sports bar w/ msu stuff, autographed jerseys located in an existing building downtown would probably fly.

I agree the local flavor thing is a good idea, but most of these type places really suck for actually watching sports. Hooters isnt great, BWW in Ridgeland was actually my favorite place in Jackson to watch NFL. I live to far from a BWW now to drive on Sundays, so i walk to a local place which kind of sucks.
</p>At a lot of the places you have local bar flys who dont give a **** about the games, but have a lot of pull at the establishment. So it would go something like this. Sunday, the Saints come on at 1pm. They turn the jukebox off for the game, turn on the Saints game on 7 of their 10 TVs, including at least 4 that are in a row and can be seen from the same place. No one cares that there are 4 other game sof interest on. Oh, and yes the TVs are widescreen, but they arent really in HD, but thats ok, no one understand the difference.

Saints game is over and there are 4 more good NFL games coming on at 3pm with playoff implications...so what do we do? TURN the Jukebox on of course! They will leave the games on the TV, but you will miss the 1st quarter while trying to get someone to change the channels so that Oakland/ Miami isnt on all the channels.....

it always amazes me how bad some sports bars are run.
 

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vandaldawg said:
and the fact that a legitimate (or two or three) 4 to 5 star restaurant can't sustain itself in Vegas is a travesty. I imagine Sunday sales may help with this. If I knew how to run a SERIOUSLY good restaurant, and there were Sunday sales in Starkville, I'd certainly look into it. NO competition. And all of the people about to say "Veranda" which is really the only reasonable defense...yeah... it's good... like maybe 3 star good. And that IS the best. Every time a new restaurant opens that people kind of think is going to be the great new place, it turns into a ******** that has terrible service, rank barfood and has to sustain itself by cowtowing to idiot drunken 21 year olds. And while we're at it, can we get two more bars where regional/national acts come play - see 40 Watt.

In my experience 4-5 star joints have a price tag to go along. I dont think Sville has the where with all to support such a place. You need lots of people with lots of money that dine there regularly. My parents live in Columbus, and if such a place existed they might dine there once a year. Maybe.
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It could be that people don't want to pay for it. But I'm not talking 30 dollar plates. I've been to some really nice restaurants in lots of places in big and small towns that are more like 15 to 20 dollar entrees. I went to school in Moscow, Idaho for 3 years. Town in lots of ways just like Starkville. Agricultural community, middle of nowhere, town of about 22,000. They had several restuarants in the small downtown area, maybe only one would be 4 star. That one, called the Red Door, was small, intimate, not cheap, but not exhorbitant, and always packed. I don't think they had Sunday sales either.

Somebody with the capital to suffer through a bad first year or two and keep their head high would win out in the end.
 

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Besides, some of the best restaurants in New Orleans are no more expensive than Harvey's.
 

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As someone who has taken semesters at both schools (full disclosure- i'm an ole miss alum though), I thought the two cities couldn't be more different.

What always stuck out to me, though, was that you can walk around places in Oxford. There's the square, the neighborhoods around it are full of cool people who like to party, etc. There's not really anywhere in Starkville that has nearly as much stuff in one centralized location. If all of Starkville's bars were on that downtown strip, that'd kick ***, but they're not, they're spread out all over the place. The walking thing is huge, because if I can walk from a friend's house to the square and back, I go out alot. If I always have to drive, eh, I'll still go out, but it's not the same.

Cities with dense districts always have a cooler vibe. The Square in Oxford is an example, The Strip in Stillwater, OK is an example, even Cooper-Young in Memphis is a good example. Starkville just completely lacks that.
 

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There are only like 50 in the entire country. Starkville will never and should never have a 5* restaurant. And you haven't eaten at a 5* restaurant that served $15 entrees; that's complete ********.
 

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the credit it deserves. For a locally owned restaurant that place has come a long way from the day it opened. It could and would do well in Jackson, Memphis, New Orleans so to call it a 3* at best is not doing it justice.
 

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By the Michelin guide, which is the standard bearer in restaurant ratings, the highest rating is a 3-star. For hotels, 4-star is the highest. The term 5-star (and by extension 6- and 7-star) is a complete marketing gimick. Most restaurants in Starkville wouldn't qualify for a single Michelin star since the restaurant would be located in Starkville.

I just want a restaurant that serves good food and good beer. If it doesn't cost me much that's even better.
 

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link. Because I've seen them referenced in travel guides and bragged about by restaurants on there.

However, if you want to use Michelin's 3* restaurants, that makes my point even stronger. There are 5 of those in the entire USA and 4 are in New York City.
 

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Michelin just recently started reviewing American restaurants and only have guides for New York, San Francisco, LA and Vegas. Most 5* ratings refer to AAA or The Mobil Travel Guide. More informal awards are given by organizations like Zagat's and the James Beard foundation.
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SirBarksalot

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VegasDawg13 said:
There are only like 50 in the entire country. Starkville will never and should never have a 5* restaurant. And you haven't eaten at a 5* restaurant that served $15 entrees; that's complete ********.

Restaurants without an all you can eat sign have little success in MS
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VegasDawg13 said:

gave brief thought to trying to get a table at FL. Bleh..dont want to take a coat. Bouchon will have to do....many other good ones.
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You should go it was the best meal I have ever had, but i guess it should have been.</p>
 

dawgstudent

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I think the restaurants in the area that are considered upper class are pretty good.
 
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