"Rules Expert" stated Beau should have been whistled down on his TD Pass

[blion72]

I believe that is not correct. I though the rule was about faking a slide not the "Tom Brady fake knee"

“Any time a ball carrier simulates or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on-field officials at that point.” The judgment of whether a ball carrier slid is not subject to review, but instant replay officials can intervene on ball placement.Sep 2, 2022

 

[jmorovich]

That’s the “Kenny Pickett” rule from Pitt’s bowl game where he took advantage of not being able to hit a qb attempting to give himself up in the open field. I think what Beau did was completely different. I think Beau’s was completely legal. Apples and oranges from a play perspective.

 

[Bison13]

As the color commentator said, he was not faking a knee. He was faking, getting low like he was running the QB power play.

 

[LionJim]

As the color commentator said, he was not faking a knee. He was faking, getting low like he was running the QB power play.

Cool. I had my nose a little out of joint about this, makes sense now.

 

[LionsAndBears]

I would have called him for simulating the taking of a knee. Nobody runs by dropping down like that. If he had taken a fake step forward, then yeah but that's not what he did.

 

[CDLionFL]

That rules expert must have been bored and needing one more hit of airtime. Any sane football watcher would have seen that as Beau exaggerating a play fake.

 

[Erial_Lion]

I would have had him down...thought he was obviously faking the kneel down, which means he's down.

 

[Erial_Lion]

I believe that is not correct. I though the rule was about faking a slide not the "Tom Brady fake knee"

“Any time a ball carrier simulates or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on-field officials at that point.” The judgment of whether a ball carrier slid is not subject to review, but instant replay officials can intervene on ball placement.Sep 2, 2022

It's a different rule...if you fake a kneel down, play is over and you're down.

 

[BobPSU92]

It looked to me like Beau was faking taking a knee, though I couldn’t figure out why. Of course, I‘m an idiot, so what do I know?

 

[PSUJim]

I would have had him down...thought he was obviously faking the kneel down, which means he's down.

What???? He was obviously selling the run, to do what he did. It would have made ZERO sense to take a knee at that point. It wasn't like other situations, like near an end of a half or game, where you see a guy take a knee. TOTALLY different situation.

 

[Erial_Lion]

What???? He was obviously selling the run, to do what he did. It would have made ZERO sense to take a knee at that point. It wasn't like other situations, like near an end of a half or game, where you see a guy take a knee. TOTALLY different situation.

A) watch the play...doesn't look at all like "faking the run"
B) we're up 3 touchdowns with just over 2 minutes left...makes plenty of sense to take 3 knees, give them the ball with 10 seconds left, and get out of there (not that Franklin would do it, but there are coaches that would). It's not like we ran this play in the middle of a quarter where these is "zero sense to take a knee"...we ran it while finish off a win.

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Penn State Nittany Lions' Beau Pribula connected with Trey Potts for a 30-yard TD to cement a win against the Northwestern Wildcats.

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[Connorpozlee]

What???? He was obviously selling the run, to do what he did. It would have made ZERO sense to take a knee at that point. It wasn't like other situations, like near an end of a half or game, where you see a guy take a knee. TOTALLY different situation.

It makes zero sense to fake selling the run by looking like you’re taking a knee.

 

[CVLion]

I can’t agree with those who think he was faking taking a knee. I think, like others have said, it was an attempt to fake breaking into a run — admittedly an awkward/stiffly done fake that ended up somewhat resembling a fake of taking a knee. It was an error of bad execution of the fake, rather than of bad intention regarding the TYPE of fake.

It was a little too early yet for “take a knee” time anyway. And if you were truly wanting to pull off a deception there, wouldn’t you line up in victory formation too?

 

[Erial_Lion]

People really think this looks like he's trying to fake a run, and not faking a knee?

 

[PSU Mike]

As an exercise I just tried in my basement to see how my body naturally tries to carry out that fake, and my knee did exactly what is pictured. You don’t try to stop and back out of a fake run by standing straight up. Plus there is nothing about the formation that suggests he ever planned to take a knee.

Moreover, none of the NW players’ body language suggests they thought the play was over.

 

[PSUJim]

It makes zero sense to fake selling the run by looking like you’re taking a knee.

Again, it is an opinion thing, and I think he was faking a run, in a very dramatic/awkward way. With the situation of the series, there was nothing that would make one think he was faking taking a knee.

 

[PSUJim]

A) watch the play...doesn't look at all like "faking the run"
B) we're up 3 touchdowns with just over 2 minutes left...makes plenty of sense to take 3 knees, give them the ball with 10 seconds left, and get out of there (not that Franklin would do it, but there are coaches that would). It's not like we ran this play in the middle of a quarter where these is "zero sense to take a knee"...we ran it while finish off a win.

Penn State's Beau Pribula connects with Trey Potts for a 30-yard TD to cement a win against Northwestern | FOX Sports

Penn State Nittany Lions' Beau Pribula connected with Trey Potts for a 30-yard TD to cement a win against the Northwestern Wildcats.

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Erial, as I said, to me, there was no way any team would be taking a knee in that situation. Especially, with putting in the 2nd string QB, who is going to get some reps. If NW had zero timeouts left, and you use a formation to take a knee, then yes I think it would have been called. Again, I get that it was a very dramatic fake by Pribula, and I am sure the coaches will fix that, but with the time and place of the game I have ZERO thought that he was trying to fake a knee in that situation.

 

[JWB389]

As an exercise I just tried in my basement to see how my body naturally tries to carry out that fake, and my knee did exactly what is pictured.

I don’t care what anybody else says. That is commitment, man.

 

[doctornick]

I totally think he was faking a run, he just did a terrible job of it

 

[Connorpozlee]

Again, it is an opinion thing, and I think he was faking a run, in a very dramatic/awkward way. With the situation of the series, there was nothing that would make one think he was faking taking a knee.

His knee came about an inch from touching the ground which is what made it look like he was taking a knee. There was absolutely nothing to that play that made it look like he was faking a run.

 

[Bison13]

People really think this looks like he's trying to fake a run, and not faking a knee?

Yes, nobody lunges that far forward on a kneel down.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

To me it looked like he was ducking behind the O- Line to confuse the D into thinking he would run around the end.

 

[Madsol]

His knee came about an inch from touching the ground which is what made it look like he was taking a knee. There was absolutely nothing to that play that made it look like he was faking a run.

Agreed...except for the formation, the actions of all the other players (especially the pulling guard, a staple on any QB kneel down), the fact we wouldn't have been able to run out the clock with 4 kneel downs and the fact Beau runs the QB power all the time and a fake off it is a perfect call. Other than that, nothing.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Agreed...except for the formation, the actions of all the other players (especially the pulling guard, a staple on any QB kneel down), the fact we wouldn't have been able to run out the clock with 4 kneel downs and the fact Beau runs the QB power all the time and a fake off it is a perfect call. Other than that, nothing.

Monty Python might be the only ones that might run like that.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Yes, nobody lunges that far forward on a kneel down.

Who lunges forward like that when they are running?

 

[LionJim]

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[Madsol]

A) watch the play...doesn't look at all like "faking the run"
B) we're up 3 touchdowns with just over 2 minutes left...makes plenty of sense to take 3 knees, give them the ball with 10 seconds left, and get out of there (not that Franklin would do it, but there are coaches that would). It's not like we ran this play in the middle of a quarter where these is "zero sense to take a knee"...we ran it while finish off a win.

Penn State's Beau Pribula connects with Trey Potts for a 30-yard TD to cement a win against Northwestern | FOX Sports

Penn State Nittany Lions' Beau Pribula connected with Trey Potts for a 30-yard TD to cement a win against the Northwestern Wildcats.

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I don't think I've ever watched a game where a team takes a knee repeatedly and then has to give the ball back to the other team. Not saying it's never happened but I can't ever remember seeing it. If it has happened, it is certainly not the norm.

 

[Madsol]

Monty Python might be the only ones that might run like that.

That's hilarious!

My last comment on this: I think it was an overly exaggerated fake of a QB power, but I have a hard time condemning anyone who says it looked like he was kneeling. It looked strange. But the surrounding evidence, to me, says it was a fake QB power and he wasn't attempting to deceive with a fake kneel down.

 

[Ludd]

Does it really matter? Faking a knee, faking a run, who cares, it was a TD pass.

 

[doctornick]

Who lunges forward like that when they are running?

Right, he needs to work on executing the fake run. It was awkward looking even though it was obvious what he was doing

 

[NittPicker]

Does it really matter? Faking a knee, faking a run, who cares, it was a TD pass.

The people who care are the ones who hate it when PSU does something successful. I guess we should all apologize for the egregious faux pas committed by Beau.

 

[CaliLion79]

Play of the (other) Day: RB Pop vs. Northwestern

FTB X's and O's expert Shane Paul dissects Penn State's final touchdown vs. Northwestern, a "controversial" non-fake kneel pop pass.

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[BobPSU92]

We’re just lucky to have knees.

 

[Chris92]

People really think this looks like he's trying to fake a run, and not faking a knee?

The formation is the first tell he's not taking a knee. If anyone can link up a victory formation with 4 wideouts and a pulling guard, I'll be stunned. Not even Spurrier ran that kneel down.

He's getting low making it difficult on the Mike, as 33 is thinking this is the same QB power play Beau's run a bazillion times all season.

Here's the exact same play with the pulling guard and RB faking the QB power to the right side of the formation and hitting the RB with the seam pass.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Who lunges forward like that when they are running?

Lots of QBs. Maybe you should try watching more football.

 

[Bvillebaron]

I believe that is not correct. I though the rule was about faking a slide not the "Tom Brady fake knee"

“Any time a ball carrier simulates or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on-field officials at that point.” The judgment of whether a ball carrier slid is not subject to review, but instant replay officials can intervene on ball placement.Sep 2, 2022

Some of these college football “experts” are as accurate as many “fact checkers”

 

[Connorpozlee]

Lots of QBs. Maybe you should try watching more football.

You see quarterbacks take one big step forward and drag their back foot to the point of their knee almost touching the ground a lot?
I do appreciate the advice though. I am going to try to watch more football.

 

[BW Lion]

 

[Shadow99]

Who lunges forward like that when they are running?

How many jab steps in basketball look like the player is really going to proceed around the defender? As Chris92
posted above, QB keepers are the primary type of play that Pribula has run when he's gotten in games, so the fake run TD pass was set-up by any previous-game film that NW cared to review about PSU's backup QB.

If his knee HAD hit the ground, it would have been a significant mistake in execution and loss in yards at a point when running out the clock was not yet possible. The intent was clear. As others have said, if the execution was awkward enough to put it into the hands of the officials one way or another, then it is akin to an unclear fair catch signal by a punt returner. Agreed that there should not be anything ambiguous about such a play that exposes it to referee discretion, but the intent was clear. The very first thought was that Yurcich knew that NW would expect a QB run and he took advantage of it.

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[Tom_PSU]

To me it looked like he was ducking behind the O- Line to confuse the D into thinking he would run around the end.

Or he was hiding behind the line hoping to run off the final 2 plus minutes of the game. A new concept he developed in Peewee football.