Satterfield will not be retained next season

[Rogue Cock]

I don't think we should fire Satterfield but he should be demoted until it's time to let him go. I would make him an off-field analyst immediately.

Without having read his contract, I am still pretty comfortable is saying that is a "distinction without a difference." A demotion like you are suggesting would violate his contract and be considered for legal purposes as a firing.

 

[KingWard]

Stepp is the only one on staff I would consider for an interm OC. Beamer has lost the team and could potentially lose a good bit of the fanbase if he's not careful. New blood is needed even if it's for the balance of the season.

I know the Stepp brothers personally. He would welcome the opportunity.

Stepp is an outstanding coach who relates well to young men. He would be an asset to any staff, I believe.

 

[Viennacock]

Without having read his contract, I am still pretty comfortable is saying that is a "distinction without a difference." A demotion like you are suggesting would violate his contract and be considered for legal purposes as a firing.

There are plenty of ways to take power away from him. If he wants to fight it, show him the door. It's not big dollars.

 

[18IsTheMan]

In any event, we should move ahead to discussing who is attainable and a good fit for the next OC since we know Satterfield won't be back.

My only concern is that with extra time to prepare we might actually put on a good offensive show like we did last year and that would serve as justification for retaining him.

Hopefully a move is made after the Clemson game.

 

[Rogue Cock]

There are plenty of ways to take power away from him. If he wants to fight it, show him the door. It's not big dollars.

It's -0- dollars at this point. All that he is entitled to is his contract payment through 12/31 regardless of whether he is let go now or at the end of his contract. There is NO remaining buyout on top of his salary through the end of the year.

 

[Viennacock]

It's -0- dollars at this point. All that he is entitled to is his contract payment through 12/31 regardless of whether he is let go now or at the end of his contract. There is NO remaining buyout on top of his salary through the end of the year.

Understand. My preference would be not to fire him but have someone take over the offense and play calling until the end of December.

He may be willing to step down as long as he receives the balance of his contractual $$'s.

 

[DG7]

An interesting move would be to go after the Co-OC's at UTSA. A team averaging 38 PPG, with a balanced 2000 yards rushing and 3000 yards passing at this juncture. TDs are an even split at 23 rushing and 24 passing. One Co-OC is a QB coach, one is a O-Line coach. Seems we are in need of both

 

[18IsTheMan]

An interesting move would be to go after the Co-OC's at UTSA. A team averaging 38 PPG, with a balanced 2000 yards rushing and 3000 yards passing at this juncture. TDs are an even split at 23 rushing and 24 passing. One Co-OC is a QB coach, one is a O-Line coach. Seems we are in need of both

Going back to the OP, the only two coaches on staff who did not receive extensions and raises in February were the OC and OL coaches. It would certainly seem like they are both on the block.

 

[Rogue Cock]

An interesting move would be to go after the Co-OC's at UTSA. A team averaging 38 PPG, with a balanced 2000 yards rushing and 3000 yards passing at this juncture. TDs are an even split at 23 rushing and 24 passing. One Co-OC is a QB coach, one is a O-Line coach. Seems we are in need of both

Isn't that basically what we had during Spurrier's tenure with Mangus and Elliott? I know Spurrier called a lot of plays, but that wasn't his offense they were running. It seemed more like an amalgam of the spread that Mangus preferred and the zone read that Elliott preferred.

 

[Mtncock]

Yeah, there is at least one Satterfield lover on here.

For me, this all but assures a new OC next year. New contracts are rewards. Not even the most ardent Satterfield supporter, if they were in Beamer's shoes, could, in good conscience, say Satterfield's body of work merits the reward of a new contract. If he had another year left or whatever, I could see some arguing he needs more time etc. But not a new contract. No way.

Side note: I don't know if it was Beamer or the BOT who decided that Satterfield did not deserve an extension and raise earlier this year.

Oh yea there is one Satterfield die hard who thinks the rest of us are idiots for actually having eyes and can clearly see the mud this offense is stuck in.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Lost the team = team playing without confidence and not giving maximum effort. I don't think this is a stretch. Call it whatever you want but it's reality.

Players' only meeting yet? Vote of confidence yet? C'mon.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Isn't that basically what we had during Spurrier's tenure with Mangus and Elliott? I know Spurrier called a lot of plays, but that wasn't his offense they were running. It seemed more like an amalgam of the spread that Mangus preferred and the zone read that Elliott preferred.

Fun'n'gun + zone run offense. It was a hybrid offense.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

An interesting move would be to go after the Co-OC's at UTSA. A team averaging 38 PPG, with a balanced 2000 yards rushing and 3000 yards passing at this juncture. TDs are an even split at 23 rushing and 24 passing. One Co-OC is a QB coach, one is a O-Line coach. Seems we are in need of both

I like it!

For the life of me I don't know why lower tiered SEC teams don't run junk/trick play type offenses to try and offset the athleticism of the elite defenses they play against.

Look around the NFL and almost all the QBs are mobile-big time playmakers. Give me a dual-threat/playmaker offense!

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Oh yea there is one Satterfield die hard who thinks the rest of us are idiots for actually having eyes and can clearly see the mud this offense is stuck in.

Fire Calvi!!!!

 

[Lurker123]

Speak of the devil.

Oh yea there is one Satterfield die hard who thinks the rest of us are idiots for actually having eyes and can clearly see the mud this offense is stuck in.

She is hard to miss. But I think even she knows it's coming now. She just has to save face and keep arguing.

 

[WingchunCock]

Sometimes it is simply a matter of the offensive system that the coordinator runs. Pro-style like the one Satterfield runs is very complex and takes a while to install from all aspects....blocking, play call variations based on what the defense is doing, route running, etc. Some like the basic spread are very simple because they tend to use more motion to confuse the defense, wider splits among the linemen to create running lanes, etc...but the calls are more simple and there aren't as many variations based on what the defense is doing. That is my understanding based on conversations with some coaches. In other words, a spread offense would be quicker to install and for the players to pick up.....not to mention many run that in high school.

And the players can just react instead of thinking what they’re supposed to do.

 

[Cocky99]

If Satt is here next season- we peacefully protest!

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Yeah, there is at least one Satterfield lover on here.

Beamer?

 

[Go Gamecocks]

Based on some if the comments made by Rattler and the effort on the field, he has lost the team. They have no confidence in what they are doing and I'm not even sure they know what they are doing.

I hope you are right and they bounce back but I don't see it happening.

See....one thing we've already seen about Beamer...if he gets knocked down, he gets back up.
Still no excuse for laying an egg last week in Gainesville.
Should go into Pickens next week with some swagger.

 

[Viennacock]

See....one thing we've already seen about Beamer...if he gets knocked down, he gets back up.
Still no excuse for laying an egg last week in Gainesville.
Should go into Pickens next week with some swagger.

I have to give it to Beamer. I thought we were down and out for the year.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

I have to give it to Beamer. I thought we were down and out for the year.

I'm kinda inspired by this. I think Shane's a bigger man that we may have assumed.

 

[ToddFlanders]

My prediction - Matt Rhule takes another job this season (maybe Nebraska), and gives Satterfield a nice landing spot for next season - but as a TE coach.

This blind squirrel found a nut!

 

[Lurker123]

This blind squirrel found a nut!

Ha! I'll admit to being surprised that the talk is about an OC position. (Or does it end up co-oc)

 

[Thunderstick]

Yeah, there is at least one Satterfield lover on here.

#GoCocksFight2021​

 

[Cock-n-Lateral]

Without having read his contract, I am still pretty comfortable is saying that is a "distinction without a difference." A demotion like you are suggesting would violate his contract and be considered for legal purposes as a firing.

Prime example of how little the average fan knows about

Understand. My preference would be not to fire him but have someone take over the offense and play calling until the end of December.

He may be willing to step down as long as he receives the balance of his contractual $$'s.

And here you are (were) talking about losing the team. Have you paid attention to how much the players like him? I'm not sure you even understand what you're saying. This is playstation. Feelings and emotions are involved. What you're talking about is unintentional sabotage.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Prime example of how little the average fan knows about

Not that it makes any difference at this point, but wouldn't a demotion have been equivalent to a firing under his contract? If not, his attorney did not do a good job.

 

[Cock-n-Lateral]

Not that it makes any difference at this point, but wouldn't a demotion have been equivalent to a firing under his contract? If not, his attorney did not do a good job.

I was agreeing with you, actually. I don't know this for fact, but what you say makes perfect sense to me. The rest of my sentence got chopped off somehow. In essence, I was pointing out how little we as fans know about all the intricacies of being a head coach. Between managing the assistant coaches and their contracts, all of the support staff that have nothing to do with the actual game of football, player's emotions and feelings... getting to really know all of the players, what motivates them, what they respond to best, etc. It is an art and a part of the job that most people don't even consider. And we haven't even touched on recruiting, handling the press, and what uniforms to wear next week... .

 

[WARCOCKS]

I knew his contract went through 12/31, but I had forgotten that he was one of only 2 assistants who did not receive a 1-year extension and raise back in February. The other was OL coach Adkins. If he was identified as one of only two assistants to not merit an extension and raise in February, what has he shown since then to merit a new contract?

At this point, it's really just a matter of whether we want to pay the $200,000 buyout or let him finish his contract out through 12/31.

With this detail, I think it's a virtual guarantee that he's gone. Not getting an extension with the rest of the staff certainly appears to have been a message: "you need to show something this year."

I think most fans would groan in bewildered discontent if he were retained on an existing contract. There might be an all-out riot if he's actually given a new contract. There cannot be a Gamecock fan out there that thinks he's done enough to merit a new contact after not being given an extension like the rest of the staff.

This must be an old post.Got to be.