SEC Not interested in Miami, FSU or Clemson per ON3

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Could not have happened to a better group. I have been a Gamecock fan for a long time. I still remember back in the early 70's when CU and Maryland was supposed to leave the ACC with us. Benedict Arnold took his horse and rode to CU and Maryland and said you both fit what I am looking for on betrayal and not keeping your word. You both have a history of betrayal. USC got left holding the bag. Well it is really interesting how that mother Karma said "wait" and I will make things right. So yes like they say what goes around comes around. Good luck to being an independent. The only school that can survive being an Independent is Notre Dame. FSU,Miami, CU do not even come close to being one that can survive being Independent.
 

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Could not have happened to a better group. I have been a Gamecock fan for a long time. I still remember back in the early 70's when CU and Maryland was supposed to leave the ACC with us. Benedict Arnold took his horse and rode to CU and Maryland and said you both fit what I am looking for on betrayal and not keeping your word. You both have a history of betrayal. USC got left holding the bag. Well it is really interesting how that mother Karma said "wait" and I will make things right. So yes like they say what goes around comes around. Good luck to being an independent. The only school that can survive being an Independent is Notre Dame. FSU,Miami, CU do not even come close to being one that can survive being Independent.
Miami was independent until 1991 when they joined the Big East. They didn't join the ACC until 2004 so they might be able to make a go of it as an independent. I doubt they could get a tv deal as lucrative as the current ACC deal but they are a private school with wealthy alumni.
 

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Of the three schools mentioned, I can say that one of them has been solicited to join another conference.

In addition, the article had a quote that stated "least likely option", which falls short of it's not going to happen.
 

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Miami was independent until 1991 when they joined the Big East. They didn't join the ACC until 2004 so they might be able to make a go of it as an independent. I doubt they could get a tv deal as lucrative as the current ACC deal but they are a private school with wealthy alumni.
I agree with you 100%, just because they have wealthy alumi does not mean they will be successful, Look at Texas A&M they have so much money and it did not guarantee them with success.
 

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Miami was independent until 1991 when they joined the Big East. They didn't join the ACC until 2004 so they might be able to make a go of it as an independent. I doubt they could get a tv deal as lucrative as the current ACC deal but they are a private school with wealthy alumni.
Nope. I think no conference is no man's land for any team not Notre Dame. BYU is the most recent team to learn the harsh lesson.
 

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Nope. I think no conference is no man's land for any team not Notre Dame. BYU is the most recent team to learn the harsh lesson.
I don't think it helps any team but I think Miami could pull it off at least for a while if they are adamant about getting out of the ACC. I think Clemson would be doomed as an independent. Relatively small alumni base in a small population state with a big athletic budget. FSU was independent until 1992 when they joined the ACC.

I wonder if a program was independent but had enough big donors to fund a huge NIL collective could they be competitive? Scheduling would be a nightmare with the new conference affiliations if an independent was a good team.
 

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I don't think it helps any team but I think Miami could pull it off at least for a while if they are adamant about getting out of the ACC. I think Clemson would be doomed as an independent. Relatively small alumni base in a small population state with a big athletic budget. FSU was independent until 1992 when they joined the ACC.

I wonder if a program was independent but had enough big donors to fund a huge NIL collective could they be competitive? Scheduling would be a nightmare with the new conference affiliations if an independent was a good team.
For awhile don't count.
 

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They are the high school girls who think they are really hot getting to college and realizing they are just another girl.


Sounds like a SEC Shorts episode where they do the dance like the bowl game dance and the last girl picked before those 3 schools standing on the wall picked before them is Vandy, LOL
 

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Early Christmas present if true. Too bad ACC teams enjoy playing Cal, Stanford, SMU, BC, Pitt, Syracuse etc. We may get whooped but at least we are playing teams you can get excited about!!
 

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Something tells me this thread is not going to age well
I’m on this hill. I will either die on it or be king of it. ACC/B12 partnership/merger incoming. Too much bad blood from the alliance debacle.

IF they can even get out.
 
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To me best scenario is FSU and Clemson to Big 10 and Unc and some combination of NC State,Va and Va Tech to the SEC.Worst case is Big 10 gets UNC and a Virginia school.Sec then only option for future expansion would be Second level ACc schools that add no new geographic areas and little value.Perhaps SEC forced to move to counter Big 10.North Carolina and Notre Dame the two prizes out there.
 

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To me best scenario is FSU and Clemson to Big 10 and Unc and some combination of NC State,Va and Va Tech to the SEC.Worst case is Big 10 gets UNC and a Virginia school.Sec then only option for future expansion would be Second level ACc schools that add no new geographic areas and little value.Perhaps SEC forced to move to counter Big 10.North Carolina and Notre Dame the two prizes out there.
It is very doubtful CLemson would be invited to the B1G for 2 big reasons. 1) They are not an AAU affiliated school 2) The lacking of a Medical School. These are as of now, 2 very big requirements, and not likely to be overlooked.
 

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Early Christmas present if true. Too bad ACC teams enjoy playing Cal, Stanford, SMU, BC, Pitt, Syracuse etc. We may get whooped but at least we are playing teams you can get excited about!!
And I expect that to continue to be the case.
 

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SEC Not interested in Miami, FSU or Clemson per ON3​

It will take a long time to flesh out, but people making these sweeping pronouncements are on very thin ice based on prematurity alone. Who credibly saw Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC five years ago? Who credibly saw Washington and Southern Cal in the Big 10 three years ago?
 
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Do we really want UNC to the SEC? After all the **** they've pulled against us, do we really want them here in the SEC? I would love to see UVA and Notre Dame instead of UVA and UNC....
 

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Do we really want UNC to the SEC? After all the **** they've pulled against us, do we really want them here in the SEC? I would love to see UVA and Notre Dame instead of UVA and UNC....
There is zero incentive for ND to be in a conference. They’re basically a one team conference as it is.
 
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Our vote counts as much as UGAs buddy. UGA doesn’t want to see clem in a better situation either.
UGA could carry such an agenda even if we weren't there - you know it and I know it. They are a behemoth; we are a flea fart.
 

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UGA could carry such an agenda even if we weren't there - you know it and I know it. They are a behemoth; we are a flea fart.
Only requires 3/4 vote. There aren’t many in the conference that share that concern. Just like UK doesn’t want Lou in and UF doesn’t want FSU/Miami in. We are all equally important to each other in that regard.
 

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Only requires 3/4 vote. There aren’t many in the conference that share that concern. Just like UK doesn’t want Lou in and UF doesn’t want FSU/Miami in. We are all equally important to each other in that regard.
FSU can get a 3/4 vote. I expect UPC can also, although it would be dicier. In terms of influence, though, we've got nada. It's all academic, though. This is going to be a field day for the lawyers lasting months if not years before this thing becomes immediate.
 

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I still remember the guarantee that A&M got that Texas wouldn't be invited.

Not that the situations are identical, but times change.
Found this article on that. Very interesting. I’d be curious to know what A&M got in return for getting on board with the move. This article references former A&Ms AD on the gentlemen’s agreement on adding schools in the same state as member school.

 

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I think it’s interesting that FSU is using us leaving the ACC for “financial reasons” as justification for them challenging the GOR. Hilarious actually.
The FSU filing is 38 pages long and I admit I have not read the whole filing, but your example is not the "tip of spear" of their Complaint For Declaratory Judgement.
 

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Don’t want to see UNC in either. The others would be ok if there is further expansion. However, would worry that our DMV connection would suffer if any of those get in except ND. They won’t join any conference full-time unless forced, of course - have cake eat it too. Big slice.