You can’t say screw the eye test. Does FSU beat Clemson without Jordan Travis? No way…..there has to be some stock put into the fact that their resume only includes 2 wins without their starting QB who was arguably the best player on their team. It’s very simple, a Jordan Travis-less FSU is not the same as when he’s in the game, and certainly not as good as other top 4 teams.
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You can’t say screw the eye test. Does FSU beat Clemson without Jordan Travis? No way…..there has to be some stock put into the fact that their resume only includes 2 wins without their starting QB who was arguably the best player on their team. It’s very simple, a Jordan Travis-less FSU is not the same as when he’s in the game, and certainly not as good as other top 4 teams.
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This. The committee has to put the resumes into context. I can’t see the same result occurring if Texas and Alabama were to play right now. That being said, I think Alabama and Texas both have the best combination of resume/performance to be in with Michigan’s and Washington. So, I’m on the Michigan/Washington/Texas/Alabama playoff.
This. The committee has to put the resumes into context. I can’t see the same result occurring if Texas and Alabama were to play right now. That being said, I think Alabama and Texas both have the best combination of resume/performance to be in with Michigan’s and Washington. So, I’m on the Michigan/Washington/Texas/Alabama playoff.
Playing the games gives you the "eye test". Texas and Bama would smoke FSU if they played now with a 2nd or 3rd string qb.
FSUs defense is one of the best in the country. They're not getting smoked by anyone.
FSU deserves to be in. The games are played on the field for a reason. In my eyes, Florida State won unexpectedly at Florida last week and against Louisville last night (with one helluva defense). Include them in the playoffs. I cannot say enough good things about the job Mike Norvell has done.
Current strength of schedule should be a major factor in determining who’s in and who's out. Florida State SOS is the worse and Michigan isn’t to far behind. If SOS doesn’t matter regardless if you’re undefeated then why play any P5 out of conference teams that are any good. Schedule guaranteed wins and hope for the best.
The ACC is 6-3 over the SEC in football this year on the field.
That was against Florida and Louisville as you said. At the end of the day it should come down to this, Michigan and Washington are 1-2, so which other two teams have the best shot at beating them and winning a championship. Any team that can’t legitimately win the whole thing shouldn’t be in. That’s a waste.
You don’t know that they wouldn’t. You have nothing to compare to. You solely have to rely on the eye test and that is bs in my opinion. fSU won all of their games did everything that was asked of them. All the teams you’re comparing them to can not say that. This would be real simple if Alabama beat Texas but they didn’t or if Georgia beat bama but they didn’t. fSU beat everyone they faced. This isn’t a scrub that went undefeated. This is a power 5 conference champion. Some of the same things were said about Clemson the years they beat bama. Like I said screw the eye test
Really? Oregon was a 9 point favorite. The eye test said they would win and……..
Then bama should be out. They can’t beat Texas and I have a game that was played on the field as proof. In Tuscaloosa I might add. What do you have an assumption?
They won the conference that, frankly, dominated the SEC this year.
Im not really sure why everything thinks they will be left out. The predictor is usually pretty spot on and they give FSU a 90% chance of getting in. Face it bama and Georgia didn’t do enough this year to get in and those are the facts. They lost when they couldn’t against teams they simply couldn’t lose to. When you lose matters.
If FSU had not lost their QB, they actually had a shot at winning it all. Overall, I'm just happy the leghumpers are eliminated
You mean they didn't beat Texas. Not sure can't is the right word.
In my opinion, it doesn't really matter if they lost to Texas. Can they beat FSU? The answer is an emphatic yes. They should be in with Texas.
An no I said it right. A game this year tells you they can’t. 10 points in their own house. It should without a doubt tell you that Texas is better.
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Wrong. You have plenty of stats from the last 4-5 weeks. In addition, the eye test matters.
Even you would have to agree that if Bama played FSU right now, FSU would be in the ball park of a 10 point dog. If you don't agree, you are not being objective.
Wrong I’m not willing to say that FSU isn’t one of the top three based on the committees criteria to define the 4 best. Offense is only one side of the ball and pretty much every team in the top 4 have lost starters that changed their team. Look no farther than Washington which no one is doubting. FSU held Louisville to 25 points below their season average. Winning matters most and they have done everything asked of them. You forget that bama team you keep touting struggles along the way as well. It’s not only about last night. They needed a miracle to beat auburn. Who got throttled by new Mexico State. “Best” can be defined several different ways. You just want to rely solely on the eye test which I think is one of the least accurate ways. Look no farther than Oregon Washington.
You are either an ACC fan, a FSU fan or a Bama hater.
Louisville just gave up 38 points to a crappy Kentucky offense. FSU struggled scoring against Louisville. Doesn't matter how good their defense is. Need offensive production.
It is an interesting argument. We can't be sure Bama can't beat Texas, and the actual game between them means nothing.
But we can be sure that Bama would beat FSU, based on no game being played between them.
But we can be sure that Bama would beat FSU, based on no game being played between them.
You can’t just “screw” the eye test. Did you watch the SEC CG yesterday? Did you watch the ACC CG? One of those games looked like 2 top teams in the country. The other looked like 2 teams fighting for bowl eligibility. FSU is clearly a much worse team without Travis.
I don’t get your point with Oregon/Washington? They both look like elite teams.
UF was also without their starting QB. And UF is a 5-7 team. IF FSU gets in, they are going to get destroyed.
No, they can’t. Not without Travis. UFs D is terrible. And they held FSU in check. FSU had 220 yards against them.
If I may put words in his mouth.
His point with Oregon and Washington was that the "eye test" had Oregon playing better than Washington, and favored by 9 points, even though they lost to Washington earlier in the year. (Like Texas and bama)
The point is by the eye test
,if it wasn’t played, Oregon wins that game. They were a 9 point favorite. You can’t go by FSU last night because that QB won’t be playing. You simply cannot definitively say FSU can’t compete.
You think with the way Milroe has progressed throughout the year that Alabama in game 2 is the same Alabama as right now? Secondly, I also said it should be the four teams that has the BEST chance of legitimately winning the whole thing. Thirdly, see my other post where I stated that would be BOTH Alabama and Texas.
But the eye test works in favor of Wash too. They look like they belong. I’m sorry, but FSU does not.
The O looked putrid against a bad UF defense too. WITH the QB they’ll be asking to go up against Mich most likely. No thanks.
Dude…..why do you keep arguing that Texas should get in over Bama? Most posts I see aren’t arguing that. Most posts are arguing that both Bama and Texas should be in over FSU.
TX removed all doubt. They should be in. It’s Bama over FSU that should happen.
Almost feel bad for UGA….almost. Hard to imagine the #1 team dropping out of the top 4 bc they lost a 3 point game to #7. Whatever happens, the CFP is going to be the boogie man.
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But the eye test didn't work for Washington. If we had gone by the eye test, Oregon would have the P12 title and be in the playoffs.
