SEC working on 9 Game schedule

KingWard

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When was that? Here are our records against a few ACC teams:

UNC 20-36-4
Duke 17-24-3
Clemson 30-44-2
Georgia Tech 9-12

We do lead NC State all time 28-26-4 so we have that going for us. Our overall record vs. ACC teams is 125-122-6. Facing the Gamecocks doesn't exactly strike fear in the hearts of ACC teams.
I do think our wins against those teams are mostly back-weighted.
 

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All rivalries will be destroyed at some point. Even if they get to the SEC, no guarantee we'll still play each other every year.
No guarantee that Alabama would play Auburn and Tennessee, right?

I guess we're talking football since it's the only sport which had ties.

Crazy to put Ga Tech in there. I would only put the other 7 schools in the league at the time we foolishly left.
 

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No guarantee that Alabama would play Auburn and Tennessee, right?

I guess we're talking football since it's the only sport which had ties.

Crazy to put Ga Tech in there. I would only put the other 7 schools in the league at the time we foolishly left.
Whatever rotation they come up with, Alabama will still be playing Auburn and Tennessee every season just like UGA will be playing Auburn every season. Ole Miss and Miss St will play every season. With each team having its own permanent opponents, most likely set at 3 teams, there is no reason they can't continue the long-running historical SEC rivalries.
 

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Teams like Kentucky, MSSt, Arkansas and, yes, Carolina really rely on that 8 game conference schedule to get to 6 wins on the season and bowl eligibility. If wins against FCS teams didn't count toward bowl eligibility (they shouldn't) schools like Carolina would rarely be bowl eligible.

I think it is absurd for the SEC to be a 16 team conference and only play 8 conference games a season.

They used to say ... "If ya don't wanna run with the big dogs, stay on the porch."

There are enough weaker P5 teams that you can find 2 to schedule each year. They're looking to schedule homecoming visitors just like we are. And a lot of 'em are right here in the neighborhood (The entire damn ACC) And what about the Rutgers, Indiana, Illinois. Maryland, Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa St, KSU, and every 5 /10 years hit up a couple Best Coast Teams and Rocky Mountain Boys just for publicity sake?

Beating one of them is more impressive than pounding a Furman or Citadel and, if you should lose, a helluva lot less embarrassing.
 

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I saw something from a media outlet that covers ECU, which is trying to firm up their future schedules, even by adding some FCS teams. We have already pushed a future game with them back a few years. The piece notes that our future schedules are currently showing only three confirmed non-conference games, and they are postulating that this is a certain sign that the SEC is going to nine games.
 

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Whatever rotation they come up with, Alabama will still be playing Auburn and Tennessee every season just like UGA will be playing Auburn every season. Ole Miss and Miss St will play every season. With each team having its own permanent opponents, most likely set at 3 teams, there is no reason they can't continue the long-running historical SEC rivalries.
Exatly. I was being sarcastic.
 

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They used to say ... "If ya don't wanna run with the big dogs, stay on the porch."

There are enough weaker P5 teams that you can find 2 to schedule each year. They're looking to schedule homecoming visitors just like we are. And a lot of 'em are right here in the neighborhood (The entire damn ACC) And what about the Rutgers, Indiana, Illinois. Maryland, Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa St, KSU, and every 5 /10 years hit up a couple Best Coast Teams and Rocky Mountain Boys just for publicity sake?

Beating one of them is more impressive than pounding a Furman or Citadel and, if you should lose, a helluva lot less embarrassing.

We scheduled one of those ACC teams this past year.

I get the notion of competing vs sitting on the porch. But we'd need to be willing to forego bowls some years.
 

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Exactly, no such law exist.
Not now....but just give the SC Legislature a reason to do it....you and I know they will. Just like they will force us to push for a Clemson bid to the SEC if one is not forthcoming....I have zero doubts about that.
 

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Not now....but just give the SC Legislature a reason to do it....you and I know they will. Just like they will force us to push for a Clemson bid to the SEC if one is not forthcoming....I have zero doubts about that.
The legislature already controls our BOT. UPC will not be dropped nor will USC impede UPC. You can bet your houses and your bank accounts.
 

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With a nine game schedule, do we drop Clemson? (No, there is no law requiring it)

If we don't drop Clemson, we are down to two OOC patsies and vandy each year, as far as easy wins.
We ought to drop them. It benefits Clemson a lot more if they beat an SEC team whereas being an SEC team USC is expected to beat an ACC team.
 

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I think it is absurd for the SEC to be a 16-member conference period. 12 is more than enough, thank you.
It's great having Texas and Ok. A conference would have to be stupid to turn them down. One DA sports writer said that Texas would NEVER join the SEC back when the SEC was looking at adding two more teams-Ark and USC and they always said that Ok and Ok St were a package deal. I liked the conference better when it was 12 teams. Don't particularly like the A&M/Mo adds. Especially don't like the Mo add. Should have added WVa.
 

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We ought to drop them. It benefits Clemson a lot more if they beat an SEC team whereas being an SEC team USC is expected to beat an ACC team.
I don't think anyone "expects" USC to beat Clemson. If they do, they are completely ignorant of the series record. The same can be said of "expecting" USC to beat any ACC team simply because they are an ACC team. Quite a few Gamecock fans seem to place a lot of stock in the fact we are a member of the SEC and those fans live under the delusion that makes us a better program than our play and record indicates.

Dropping Clemson would benefit USC more than it would benefit Clemson. They would lose a likely win each season and we would lose a likely loss.
 

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We ought to drop them. It benefits Clemson a lot more if they beat an SEC team whereas being an SEC team USC is expected to beat an ACC team.

Look! I sincerely, don't mean to attack or start the next BS WAR but, what a ***** thing to post. RU FKing disturbed??? Grow some Man Balls.
 

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We scheduled one of those ACC teams this past year.

I get the notion of competing vs sitting on the porch. But we'd need to be willing to forego bowls some years.

Are YOU Publicly posting that South Carolina can not compete with Clemson??? ****, or get off the pot!!!
 

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It's great having Texas and Ok. A conference would have to be stupid to turn them down. One DA sports writer said that Texas would NEVER join the SEC back when the SEC was looking at adding two more teams-Ark and USC and they always said that Ok and Ok St were a package deal. I liked the conference better when it was 12 teams. Don't particularly like the A&M/Mo adds. Especially don't like the Mo add. Should have added WVa.
Oh, no. Have you been keeping up with the news on that school and that state?
 

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I was actually talking about UNC with that post.

OH!!! That Certainly makes sense, to comment about NORTH Carolina on a SOUTH CAROLINA board...... ADIOS!!!

LOL!!! Already tried to place you on "IGNORE" but the system wouldn't accept that many!!! I think it's working now .... Good bye.
 
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I don't think anyone "expects" USC to beat Clemson. If they do, they are completely ignorant of the series record.
Dropping Clemson would benefit USC more than it would benefit Clemson. They would lose a likely win each season and we would lose a likely loss.
WOW!!! What balls you have!!! Especially because of your MOM. Does your Mother still moan when YANKEES screw her??? Or does your wife laugh starts at their Pi Kappa Alpha gang bang??? Both do both? I thought so!!!
 

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WOW!!! What balls you have!!! Especially because of your MOM. Does your Mother still moan when YANKEES screw her??? Or does your wife laugh starts at their Pi Kappa Alpha gang bang??? Both do both? I thought so!!!
I think everyone on this board should have you on ignore about now dip s**t.
Enjoy talking to yourself.
 
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I don't think anyone "expects" USC to beat Clemson. If they do, they are completely ignorant of the series record. The same can be said of "expecting" USC to beat any ACC team simply because they are an ACC team. Quite a few Gamecock fans seem to place a lot of stock in the fact we are a member of the SEC and those fans live under the delusion that makes us a better program than our play and record indicates.

Dropping Clemson would benefit USC more than it would benefit Clemson. They would lose a likely win each season and we would lose a likely loss.
I think you and I should meet privately to discuss our differences.
 
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OH!!! That Certainly makes sense, to comment about NORTH Carolina on a SOUTH CAROLINA board...... ADIOS!!!

LOL!!! Already tried to place you on "IGNORE" but the system wouldn't accept that many!!! I think it's working now .... Good bye.

Yes, UNC. One of those "weaker P5" teams you said we should schedule. I pointed out that we did, and lost to them.

You're welcome.
 

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I don't think anyone "expects" USC to beat Clemson. If they do, they are completely ignorant of the series record. The same can be said of "expecting" USC to beat any ACC team simply because they are an ACC team. Quite a few Gamecock fans seem to place a lot of stock in the fact we are a member of the SEC and those fans live under the delusion that makes us a better program than our play and record indicates.

Dropping Clemson would benefit USC more than it would benefit Clemson. They would lose a likely win each season and we would lose a likely loss.
I expected to beat them each of the last 2 years. Why? Bc they’re not good and I thought we’d have enough offense to score more than them. History has nothing to do with current year. If it did we wouldn’t have had 5 straight.
 

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It's great having Texas and Ok. A conference would have to be stupid to turn them down. One DA sports writer said that Texas would NEVER join the SEC back when the SEC was looking at adding two more teams-Ark and USC and they always said that Ok and Ok St were a package deal. I liked the conference better when it was 12 teams. Don't particularly like the A&M/Mo adds. Especially don't like the Mo add. Should have added WVa.
Schools, not teams.
 

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Oh, no. Have you been keeping up with the news on that school and that state?
I wish the following schools had gotten together in the late 80s and started an all-sports conference (all sports means that if at least 6 members sponsor the sport at the D-I level then the members sponsoring the sport compete for a championship in it.):
  • Penn State.
  • Pittsburgh
  • West Virginia
  • Syracuse
  • Boston College
  • Connecticut
  • Rutgers
  • VPI
Never going to happen now, of course.
 
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I think you and I should meet privately to discuss our differences.
Your dislike of facts isn't going to change because I meet you privately.

I do find it somewhat odd that someone who has a handle that invokes the image of the team mascot being cut up and cooked and eaten gets so worked up over the reality of our series with Clemson. Of course, your leap to "Mom" comments leads me to believe you may be in middle school.
 
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I expected to beat them each of the last 2 years. Why? Bc they’re not good and I thought we’d have enough offense to score more than them. History has nothing to do with current year. If it did we wouldn’t have had 5 straight.
I thought they were very beatable this year. Last year we were lucky, they blew a lot of chances they really should have made to win. It is maddening to me how it seems that years we are pretty good they manage to be better and years they are down we are also generally down. We never seem to get that matchup where we are pretty good and they are having a down year. The five year run was the only time I can remember them being down for any extended period. Making fun of their "easy" ACC schedule does us no favors when they beat us.

Dabo's refusal to accept the NIL and portal era may be the thing that brings them down. I have to admit I agree with him philosophically but I'm not willing to accept program suicide to stand on principle.
 

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I thought they were very beatable this year. Last year we were lucky, they blew a lot of chances they really should have made to win. It is maddening to me how it seems that years we are pretty good they manage to be better and years they are down we are also generally down. We never seem to get that matchup where we are pretty good and they are having a down year. The five year run was the only time I can remember them being down for any extended period. Making fun of their "easy" ACC schedule does us no favors when they beat us.

Dabo's refusal to accept the NIL and portal era may be the thing that brings them down. I have to admit I agree with him philosophically but I'm not willing to accept program suicide to stand on principle.
Nope. The 2022 game they were lucky we didn't run away with it in the 1st half. Rattler had about as bad a 1st half as you could:

Pick 6
INT in our own enzone to take at least 3 pts off the board
Took a sack in our endzone for a safety

Then Rush had a no doubter pick 6 hit him in the hands and he dropped it. We could have been up by 3 TDs at the half if it weren't for silly mistakes. The two muffed punts shouldn't have even mattered. To that point, they were lucky to just be in the game.
 

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No. They will drop one of the other OOC games. Not saying I like it either but completely understand why it is happening. Like it or not, 9 games will soon be the standard in P4 football.
But the 9 games that SEC teams play are a lot more difficult than the 9 games that other conferences play. Therefore, more likely to have worse schedules.
 

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Another reason why an 8-member league is an ideal size. You can compete against all 7 members in each sport each season with plenty of room on each sport's schedule for both easy and challenging OOC matchups.
It has that advantage but I think that a conference has to have 12+ teams to have a championship game
 

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I thought they were very beatable this year. Last year we were lucky, they blew a lot of chances they really should have made to win. It is maddening to me how it seems that years we are pretty good they manage to be better and years they are down we are also generally down. We never seem to get that matchup where we are pretty good and they are having a down year. The five year run was the only time I can remember them being down for any extended period. Making fun of their "easy" ACC schedule does us no favors when they beat us.

Dabo's refusal to accept the NIL and portal era may be the thing that brings them down. I have to admit I agree with him philosophically but I'm not willing to accept program suicide to stand on principle.
Eminently beatable this past year.
 

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It has that advantage but I think that a conference has to have 12+ teams to have a championship game

Wikipedia: ...legislation passed on January 14, 2016 allowing a conference with fewer than twelve teams to stage a championship game between the top two teams, so long as they play a round-robin schedule.
This addressed a hardship situation whereby the Big 12 had been forced to give up their championship game when they were at fewer than 12 teams.
 

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https://www.on3.com/news/texas-athl...nine-game-conference-schedule-by-2026-season/
Texas AD Chris Del Conte confirms SEC working on 9-game schedule
by:Thomas Goldkamp


Texas athletics director Chris Del Conte provided some insight into the SEC’s scheduling plans in football for the near future when he spoke on Tuesday night.

According to reporting from InsideTexas, Del Conte hinted that the issue isn’t so much whether the SEC will move to nine games but when.

“We have eight games scheduled right now,” Del Conte said. “We’re working on going to a nine-game schedule, but we have a ways to go with that. I would say this year we have an eight-game schedule. The following year, we have another eight-game schedule. Then we’ll look at going into a nine-game conference schedule.”

That would be consistent with how the SEC has handled scheduling during previous rounds of realignment.

Back in 2012, when the league added Missouri and Texas A&M, the SEC used two years of temporary scheduling to work on and tinker with the more permanent scheduling rotation. There are a lot of parties involved and making everyone happy is almost impossible.

But eventually, the league got to a pretty good place and the permanent schedule rotation went into place in 2014. It continued through the 2023 season intact.

With the addition of Oklahoma and Texas in 2024, though, that will obviously change. For now, the league is remaining with an eight-game schedule in 2024, and full opponents and dates have already been announced for that campaign.

That the same format will likely hold in 2025 is news.

The bigger news, though, is that the league does, in fact, seem to be headed toward a nine-game conference schedule eventually. Another complicating factor that allowing additional time before making that move makes sense for is the collection of non-conference games teams have agreed to.

Some teams have already scheduled four non-conference games in the year 2026 and beyond. A nine-game conference slate could force the cancellation of a game contract or two.

In any case, there’s a lot to look forward to in the SEC. The additions of Oklahoma and Texas next fall should make for a thoroughly compelling conference slate, especially considering the College Football Playoff slate is expanding to 12 teams in 2024.
If this happens, makes things significantly (and uniquely) more difficult for South Carolina. A 9-game league schedule with the addition of Texas and OU plus Clemson is just brutal. The teams with an in conference rival will have an advantage.