Shawn Elliott coming home!!

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Agree, good news for us, HOWEVER this is a ominous sign of which I fear we are seeing just the beginning. Several HC's have left to take assistant jobs elsewhere. There may be less and less individuals willing to take HC's jobs at any level (see Chip Kelly) due to the turbulent landscape that is unfolding at breakneck speed with no clear cut solutions.
Kind of makes me wonder if we're going to enter an era of CFB where the programs have a GM and a HC. The job of HC is getting less and less desirable.
 

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I think it's auspicious. It's also additional evidence that college football's current issues are inclining head coaches to seek more comfortable, less arduous situations. There's no downside to this from our perspective, however.
 
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Just looking at the bigger picture, Shane upgraded everywhere I think the problem were last season. Our depth on both sides of the ball look so much stronger than I seen on paper in a long time. Not saying we’re winning the conference but we’ve seen crazy things in college football.
 

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Just looking at the bigger picture, Shane upgraded everywhere I think the problem were last season. Our depth on both sides of the ball look so much stronger than I seen on paper in a long time. Not saying we’re winning the conference but we’ve seen crazy things in college football.
I want seven wins - PLUS a bowl win. Eight wins in 13 games would be monumental.
 

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To be fair, it's a favorite past time at USC to hate on the OL coach. Truth be told, he coached the best OLs we've had here in the last 20 years. We watched his OLs dominate Bama, UGA, Clem, etc...Our offenses with Shaw were just as much a product of his coaching as HBC's, as he was the RGC then and that's where we ate. We were never a flashy passing team.
You can color me partly in that group. Am I opposed to the hire, no. Do I believe he is the OL coach some on here do, no (Lattimore ran through a lot of tackles and a decent run game helps alleviate pressure). Do I believe he is an upgrade over the current OL coach, absolutely. Unfortunately that is not his current assignment . Do I think he will have a positive impact, yes.
 

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To be fair, it's a favorite past time at USC to hate on the OL coach. Truth be told, he coached the best OLs we've had here in the last 20 years. We watched his OLs dominate Bama, UGA, Clem, etc...Our offenses with Shaw were just as much a product of his coaching as HBC's, as he was the RGC then and that's where we ate. We were never a flashy passing team.
Agreed. I wasn't one of those haters.
 

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You can color me partly in that group. Am I opposed to the hire, no. Do I believe he is the OL coach some on here do, no (Lattimore ran through a lot of tackles and a decent run game helps alleviate pressure). Do I believe he is an upgrade over the current OL coach, absolutely. Unfortunately that is not his current assignment . Do I think he will have a positive impact, yes.
Mike Davis was 18 yards away from having back to back 1k rushing yard seasons too. The man responsible for the OL and running game should get a lot of credit for that.
 

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Mike Davis was 18 yards away from having back to back 1k rushing yard seasons too. The man responsible for the OL and running game should get a lot of credit for that.
As I recall, when Shawn first came, the zone blocking scheme was all the rage and that was his specialty. He got the job by selling it to Spurrier. Maybe subsequent innovations on defense blunted the effectiveness of his philosophy. Initial improvement was realized, however.
 

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As I recall, when Shawn first came, the zone blocking scheme was all the rage and that was his specialty. He got the job by selling it to Spurrier. Maybe subsequent innovations on defense blunted the effectiveness of his philosophy. Initial improvement was realized, however.
Yeah, he came in on the heels of the John Hunt debacle. Inherited a mess and quickly increased the talent level. His running game produced HBCs first 5+ ypc back, Kenny Miles. Dude knows what he’s doing in the running game.
 

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He should have a huge positive impact for sure. His intensity rivals that of the ultimate warrior. I think its awesome we hired him


Excited Ultimate Warrior GIF by WWE
 
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It would not shock me one bit if this is a move for Elliott to transition into replacing Tanner as AD (who is reportedly in his last contract as AD). When Tanner retires, we need a "football" man to replace him. "Crazy", you say? We don't know what we don't know.
I, on the other hand, would be gobsmacked if anybody in USC's administration thought that hiring a moderately successful football coach to coach tight ends was in preparation to make him AD. If anything qualifies him to be an AD besides being among thousands of current and living former football coaches, I'd love to hear it.
 

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I'm looking at it from another angle. My first thought was, head coach to TE Coach? Voluntarily?

It was late in the year to be firing a coach, but this looks like a situation where the guy knew he was about to be fired.

Just seems like a weird leap. Good for us, but weird.
 

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I'm looking at it from another angle. My first thought was, head coach to TE Coach? Voluntarily?

It was late in the year to be firing a coach, but this looks like a situation where the guy knew he was about to be fired.

Just seems like a weird leap. Good for us, but weird.
He wasn’t about to be fired. They already started spring practice. He never moved to Atlanta…..kept his house and family in Columbia. He loves SC. GA State was caught off guard.

with that said, there may be a situation, where if he didn’t win big this coming year, he would’ve been on the hot seat. Who knows if that contributed. But let’s face it, winning at Georgia State is an uphill battle and he made them damn competitive.
 

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I'm looking at it from another angle. My first thought was, head coach to TE Coach? Voluntarily?

It was late in the year to be firing a coach, but this looks like a situation where the guy knew he was about to be fired.

Just seems like a weird leap. Good for us, but weird.
. He started his 2nd day of spring practice, and he thinks he's about to get fired ?
Not buying that at all.

Edit: Tngamecock just beat me to the punch on this one.
 

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I, on the other hand, would be gobsmacked if anybody in USC's administration thought that hiring a moderately successful football coach to coach tight ends was in preparation to make him AD. If anything qualifies him to be an AD besides being among thousands of current and living former football coaches, I'd love to hear it.
In Columbia, nothing crazy can be foreclosed.
 

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I, on the other hand, would be gobsmacked if anybody in USC's administration thought that hiring a moderately successful football coach to coach tight ends was in preparation to make him AD. If anything qualifies him to be an AD besides being among thousands of current and living former football coaches, I'd love to hear it.
Now I did not say I'd agree with it. If you went on to read what I wrote afterwards, you'd see that I would not agree with such a move. All I'm saying is that it would not shock me. That would be typical for us. After all, who in hell thought we'd hire someone to replace previously (Florida) failed Head Coach Will Muschamp with someone who has never been a Head Coach nor even an OC or DC......someone who has never even been mentioned as a possible Head Coach by anyone? We do the craziest things.
 

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I heard Ga St didn't renew his contract. They didn't renew the AD's contract either. The writing had been spray painted all over the wall.
 

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I heard Ga St didn't renew his contract. They didn't renew the AD's contract either. The writing had been spray painted all over the wall.
He was working on the last year of his contract, which was yet to be extended.
 

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I heard Ga St didn't renew his contract. They didn't renew the AD's contract either. The writing had been spray painted all over the wall.
That's doesn't make any sense, unless they're just going to shut it down. They came out after this and cancelled their spring game. Not doubting you, just saying it sounds strange.
 

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I heard Ga St didn't renew his contract. They didn't renew the AD's contract either. The writing had been spray painted all over the wall.

That would make sense. As others stated, it most assuredly wouldn't be this year.

But that's what I fond odd. He still had a full year as a head coach. I didn't know they just started spring practice, and he chooses NOW to bail? And for a TE job?

Just weird.
 

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Despite expected protestations, I'm going to go ahead and state the "A recruit just backed out, and what happened to honoring a commitment" argument, this development just blew a mile wide hole open to that bearing.
And just because it is a benefit to this program does not justify abandoning that principle

(Take you shot if you so desire, but my position is not going to change on this one, unless some undisclosed reason for his departure should surface)
 
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Despite expected protestations, I'm going to go ahead and state the "A recruit just backed out, and what happened to honoring a commitment" argument, this development just blew a mile wide hole open to that bearing.
And just because it is a benefit to this program does not justify abandoning that principle

(Take you shot if you so desire, but my position is not going to change on this one, unless some undisclosed reason for his departure should surface)
Been saying this forever! Agree 100%! Everyone always demands "commitment and loyalty" from players, but those words generally don't exist for coaches.
 
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I don't really know what to think of this hire. So I will not say anything about it, beyond this post.......which, for this fanbase, is probably the strangest thing....

I will add this one point: without fully understanding the reasoning behind why Elliott is making the move (and its really none of my business to know), such seemingly spontaneous and unexpected career moves like this one - which are not even lateral moves, much less an upward move with better future prospects - are often fraught with later issues such as regret or second thoughts. This situation may not have a single thing in common, but I read this and cannot help but think of the Bobby Cremins hire for MBB HC in our past. I will wait and see how it develops......
 
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