Showtime before halftime

[Podgy]

That's what bad teams do along with other stuff we see during games.

 

[Shmuley]

That's what bad teams do along with other stuff we see during games.

It’s not just the shi++¥ recruiting and shi++¥ assistant hires. The coaching, top to bottom, is shi++¥.

 

[8dog]

Our ability to run the ball is getting pretty impressive. So that’s at least one plus. Wild the same line cannot pass block for anything.

 

[Seinfeld]

Our ability to run the ball is getting pretty impressive. So that’s at least one plus. Wild the same line cannot pass block for anything.

While I’m still bullish on Van Buren, last night was a pretty awful game from him too.

10/26, 92 yds, 2 TOs, and a 27.6 QB rating

Oh, and 8 carries for -9 yds

He’s got that laser throw over the middle down pat, and he throws a pretty good deep ball, but he has some major struggles with pretty much every other touch throw

 

[8dog]

While I’m still bullish on Van Buren, last night was a pretty awful game from him too.

10/26, 92 yds, 2 TOs, and a 27.6 QB rating

Oh, and 8 carries for -9 yds

He’s got that laser throw over the middle down pat, and he throws a pretty good deep ball, but he has some major struggles with pretty much every other touch throw

Don’t disagree but he is a true freshman behind an awful pass blocking line and was playing against probably a top 3 sec defense last night. Even times he is “protected” the pocket can suffocate him and make it hard to throw. The 8 Carries for -9 yards are likely on the o line. 4 of those are sacks for -28 yds.

 

[She Mate Me]

While I’m still bullish on Van Buren, last night was a pretty awful game from him too.

10/26, 92 yds, 2 TOs, and a 27.6 QB rating

Oh, and 8 carries for -9 yds

He’s got that laser throw over the middle down pat, and he throws a pretty good deep ball, but he has some major struggles with pretty much every other touch throw

To put it in some perspective, our last QB started for the vast majority of 4 seasons, and had some bad games. They were almost exclusively against Alabama and a few other really good defenses.

He never had one as bad as MVB yesterday.

I also have high hopes for him. Hopefully yesterday was a career low.

 

[Felonious Junk]

 

[The Peeper]

Wild the same line cannot pass block for anything.

For the 2nd year in a row

 

[22yardpunt]

While I’m still bullish on Van Buren, last night was a pretty awful game from him too.

10/26, 92 yds, 2 TOs, and a 27.6 QB rating

Oh, and 8 carries for -9 yds

He’s got that laser throw over the middle down pat, and he throws a pretty good deep ball, but he has some major struggles with pretty much every other touch throw

The guy is a true freshman.

 

[8dog]

For the 2nd year in a row

I don’t think having 5 guys play in a new system and play together for the first time is ever going to be a good recipe at that position.

 

[msstatelp1]

To put it in some perspective, our last QB started for the vast majority of 4 seasons, and had some bad games. They were almost exclusively against Alabama and a few other really good defenses.

He never had one as bad as MVB yesterday.

I also have high hopes for him. Hopefully yesterday was a career low.

Comparing Rogers in a Leach offense to MVB in this offense is a true apples to oranges comparison.

 

[She Mate Me]

Comparing Rogers in a Leach offense to MVB in this offense is a true apples to oranges comparison.

A ****** performance is a ****** performance. He'll be better for it hopefully.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

SHEEP

 

[patdog]

Comparing Rogers in a Leach offense to MVB in this offense is a true apples to oranges comparison.

Maybe. But the fact is Van Buren really does only one thing well & that’s throwing deep. He’s got a lot of improving to do. But he does show promise.

 

[mcdawg22]

To put it in some perspective, our last QB started for the vast majority of 4 seasons, and had some bad games. They were almost exclusively against Alabama and a few other really good defenses.

He never had one as bad as MVB yesterday.

I also have high hopes for him. Hopefully yesterday was a career low.

Ummmm. Did you see that former QBs stats yesterday? Yeah he threw for a better completion percentage but was at 4.5 yards per attempt.

 

[She Mate Me]

Ummmm. Did you see that former QBs stats yesterday? Yeah he threw for a better completion percentage but was at 4.5 yards per attempt.

I watched the game. No surprise that Penn State was the better team and played like it. Not really sure what your point was. Will was the Will we know. He can't take a mediocre team and make them great, but he can definitely make sure a good team has a good season.

I probably shouldn't have even mentioned him. It's like pouring salt in the Will sized blisters so many have here for some reason.

I hope MVB has a spectacular career (at MSU).

 

[mcdawg22]

I watched the game. No surprise that Penn State was the better team and played like it. Not really sure what your point was. Will was the Will we know. He can't take a mediocre team and make them great, but he can definitely make sure a good team has a good season.

I probably shouldn't have even mentioned him. It's like pouring salt in the Will sized blisters so many have here for some reason.

I hope MVB has a spectacular career (at MSU).

My point was you said Will never had a game as bad as MVB. So I’m not sure what your point was, but as an FYI.

 

[She Mate Me]

My point was you said Will never had a game as bad as MVB. So I’m not sure what your point was, but as an FYI. View attachment 689143

Lol, congrats. Your research skills are impressive.

I was looking at passer rating I guess, which was 57 for that game. So they both had similarly ****** games. You win the debate. Get that blister checked on. I really hope MVB approaches what Will did at State.

 

[mcdawg22]

Lol, congrats. Your research skills are impressive.

I was looking at passer rating I guess, which was 57 for that game. So they both had similarly ****** games. You win the debate. Get that blister checked on. I really hope MVB approaches what Will did at State.

I like picking the blister. I am a full fledged unapologetic irrational member of the Noodle Arm Haterz club. Does it make sense? No. Don’t care, just hater.

 

[She Mate Me]

I like picking the blister. I am a full fledged unapologetic irrational member of the Noodle Arm Haterz club. Does it make sense? No. Don’t care, just hater.

I also don't think it makes any sense. But I can get behind you acknowledging it and having a great sense of humor about it.

Hate on, hater...

 

[Dogdazey]

Maybe. But the fact is Van Buren really does only one thing well & that’s throwing deep. He’s got a lot of improving to do. But he does show promise.

If we are comparing them, I think MVB moves around the pocket much better and he's a first year player. I think MVB is a true pro typical qb, while Rogers is not. That is just a comparison and not indicative of either. Both are gritty...

 

[patdog]

If we are comparing them, I think MVB moves around the pocket much better and he's a first year player. I think MVB is a true pro typical qb, while Rogers is not. That is just a comparison and not indicative of either. Both are gritty...

Van Buren ceiling is definitely a lot higher. At this point, he could potentially have a long NFL career. Or just as easily be the same QB in 4 years he is today. Neither would surprise me.