SIAP: Penn State, Other State-Related Universities Reject Republican Lawmakers’ Request to Freeze Tuition After One-Time Federal Funding Boost

LBUfanatic

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That will help "Make America Great Again" - I am sure.
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Edit- on a more local level, 68% of my property taxes supports public school system. I have no kids and don't plan on having them, yet they still want 68% of my property taxes to go to the public school system for other people's kids. None of the so called fiscal conservatives and those who promote fiscal responsibility have stepped forward to come up with a better plan or algorithm. :mad:

- jussssssttttt wanted to put that out there....
Well, several legislators have actually put up plans to both eliminate property taxes and fund k-12 public schools through an entirely different structure. The fact of the matter is it is a complicated issue with many tentacles so it is virtually impossible to get enough votes to pass it. But, that doesn’t mean there isn’t any support for it.
 

BobPSU92

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Nahhh . . .



“Asked how he would balance the financial needs of the other sports with football, Kraft cited a need to dive into the books.”

I wonder if that’s happened yet.
 

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Ok, I haven't followed this "covid" money very closely but it appears the headlines have been purposely misleading. Initially we were told (or lead to believe) that $40M was to be given to EACH of the four state-related schools. Turns out that about $30M is to be given to four schools in total including a small portion to Penn College. So, Penn State is being given a one time payment of about $12M. Now, the above article is a bit confusing about 5% vs 6% tuition increases but in any case $12M isn't going to be close to 5% or 6%. I would like these lawmakers should explain how $12M should eliminate a tuition increase assuming that the tuition increase was needed to balance the budget.

However, there is plenty of time to cut costs for the 23-24 budget so perhaps they should be working on that task. [ Bingo! I know that I will be working on exactly that - hopefully I will have a few allies ]

BTW: there have been at least three of these covid money payouts at Penn State. I have two daughters and each one got anywhere from $1,000 to $1,500 three different times by answering the question: "Have you been affected by covid?". Notice that the question didn't ask if you were negatively affected. Oh, and it was a word of mouth thing about how to apply.

Barry, could you please weigh-in on this one.
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A lot of good topics being raised here. I just made a post, with links to both the "Tuition Issue", as well as a write up of my votes on every issue before the Board, my public comments on each, and a rationale for my vote on each item.

That said:
Yes, the "side door" money from the state will amount to a 5% boost over the appropriation passed by the General Assembly for the GE portion (about 5%). Keep in mind, several other parts of the appropriation (money for Ag Outreach, Penn College, etc) were all separate items.
And, yes, as you point out: In and of itself, the extra "side door" money is not enough to offset the tuition increase $ for $. No doubt.

WRT your comments about cutting costs - and you can read my comments to the Board - suffice to say I think you are hitting the nail on the head (of course - since we are largely saying the same thing). As I have said many times before: "I can train my dog to bark out "No" when a tuition increase is proposed. That means nothing. What does mean something is finding/developing/implementing ways to reduce waste, improve efficiencies/increase other revenues so that a tuition freeze - or reduction - can be done is a fiscally sound manner". THAT is what we need to do, IMO. I hope that as time goes on I will be able to influence more members of the Board to adopt that philosophy.

Those COVID checks - like the ones your daughter got - yeah, that was pretty typical for schools throughout the country. Not sure what else to say about that.
 
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GrimReaper

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You are up there in Bergen County, correct? Are you saying your property taxes don't fund the schools based on the budget submitted?
We have two separate entities: a Town Council and a Board of Education. The portion of property taxes that fund the school system is determined by the Board of Education
 

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“Asked how he would balance the financial needs of the other sports with football, Kraft cited a need to dive into the books.”

I wonder if that’s happened yet.
Based on the sort of pronouncements Kraft has made, the answer is "no" or he plays it close to the vest (or finances area a low priority).
 
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psuro

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Well, several legislators have actually put up plans to both eliminate property taxes and fund k-12 public schools through an entirely different structure. The fact of the matter is it is a complicated issue with many tentacles so it is virtually impossible to get enough votes to pass it. But, that doesn’t mean there isn’t any support for it.
Oh Sure there is support for it - mostly from singles or seniors who don’t want to pay for it. But I won’t hold my breath in waiting for it to come to fruition.

And it’s not a new concept. But it gets shouted down by people who are taking advantage of the “free education”.
 
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