So, you think night games at WB have no emotional impact
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Much like A&M last year, I think the early atmosphere threw UK off early. They were clearly out of sync on those first couple of drives and had to burn a TO right away. Unfortunately, the offense fizzled out and the crowd followed suit.
It would be amazing if the crowd could keep that energy for the entirety of the Clemson game. Keep a Game-Cocks chant going for the duration of every Clemson possession.
It would be amazing if the crowd could keep that energy for the entirety of the Clemson game. Keep a Game-Cocks chant going for the duration of every Clemson possession.
That would require keeping a significant portion of the fan base from leaving at half time.
There will be almost as many of them as there will be us, and throughout the stadium. The hoopla effect will be diluted and they will be on a mission anyway. If we're going to beat them, it will have to be straight up.
For starters:
1. Bowl eligibility on the line. For this team, that's huge
2. Renewed energy from 3 game win streak.
3. Clem isn't that good, more confidence in a W
4. Last ride for Ratt (potentially)
5. Maybe Juice plays? Could be the last time to see Ratt/Juice connecting.
There will be smatterings, bc there always is. But they're not going to have near as many as we are. Not even close.
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You betcha.
Move the chains. Score points. Get off the field on defense. When you get the opportunity, MAKE THE PLAY. Best ‘emotional impact’ in existence; all else is window dressing.
Pretty cool Sandstorm then vs now video. Was there for the first one. It was raw. It was crazy. It was real. Even the boomers where jumping around. I imagine a lot of Epsom salt was used the next day...lol.
If by "almost as many," you mean somewhere between 25-30%, you are right that this is different than all our other home games. But, in my experience, the added excitement of the rivalry game makes the 70-75% of the stadium wearing garnet and black significantly louder than the 90-95% percent who show up for our other home games. If the team does its job Saturday night, Gamecock Nation is more than capable of doing the rest.
Crowd definitely helped us beat UK. They can help us win this one only if we can keep it close. They have been playing much better. Yes , so have we but against lesser competition. Don’t like the match up.
So fanciful. Crowd won't have one scintilla of impact on the outcome of this game.
We'll be roundly criticized together. That whoopin' and hollerin' is fun, and gives the fans the illusion of involvement, which is okay. But only lousy teams are rattled by it and a lot of it peters out as the game wears on. Then again, the visitors get used to it and some even enjoy it. They talk about the "great atmosphere".
That's an incredible entrance, no doubt about it.
The all black uniforms are
After all these years, why can't we get those fire columns to consistently work? Are they that tricky and complicated?
Exactly. Once the whistle blows, the players don’t noticeWe'll be roundly criticized together. That whoopin' and hollerin' is fun, and gives the fans the illusion of involvement, which is okay. But only lousy teams are rattled by it and a lot of it peters out as the game wears on. Then again, the visitors get used to it and some even enjoy it. They talk about the "great atmosphere".
So Vegas is wrong and you guys are right?? Got it.
You're both nuts if you think the players don't notice.
The advantage of home field is due mostly to a stable routine; if you’ve played football, any sport really, you know there is some ‘jet lag’ for lack of a better term involved with travel that carries over however briefly to the field.
I'm sure you are aware that vegas gives more points for a LSU game than a Vandy game. Also, the factor is more pronounced in CFB than the NFL due to stadium sizes and attendance.
And yes, I've played sports. The whole jet lag deal is non existent for football (for the most part). There's plenty of time to get there and get into your pregame routine. There's really no need to argue this point other than just to be a contrarian.
The whole crowd noise/excitement affecting the game is an opiate for the fans. The crowd/atmosphere does not affect the opponent. Good teams are still good in hostile environments and bad teams are still bad at home in a friendly environment. If crowd noise and enthusiasm was important at all, Tennessee would have fared much better against Georgia. I read that the crowd in Neyland reached 137 decibels and the Georgia players and coaches said it was very loud and Georgia still destroyed Tennessee. Neyland is supposed to be the epitome of noise and crowd enthusiasm but it hasn't made any real difference when good teams come to play there.
LSU is a tough place to play because you have to play LSU when you get there. Vandy isn't a tough place to play because you get to play Vandy. Clemson loves to talk about how tough Death Valley is to play in when, in reality, it is tough because the teams playing there are generally weak as water ACC teams.
The fans aren't going to make one point's worth of difference in the game Saturday. The team has to win the game on the field.
LSU is a tough place to play because you have to play LSU when you get there. Vandy isn't a tough place to play because you get to play Vandy. Clemson loves to talk about how tough Death Valley is to play in when, in reality, it is tough because the teams playing there are generally weak as water ACC teams.
The fans aren't going to make one point's worth of difference in the game Saturday. The team has to win the game on the field.
Maybe you guys should go start your own sports book in Vegas. I think you've identified a flaw in their odds making. They've been giving points for HFA for decades, and just losing money on it. Who knew??
I remember a stretch of years (6-7) back in the 90’s where the teams alternated victories. The funny thing is, it was the “visitors” that won each year during that stretch.
GA and TN are not close to being evenly matched - in closely matched games - noise and fan involvement can be an intimidating factor if nothing more than communication issues and false start penalties.
The 2012 GA game at WB is a prime example of the crowd being a factor.
In college, home field is generally worth 2.5 pts, regardless of where the teams are playing. Vandy doesn't get 1 pt and LSU get 4 pts and HFA is statistically based, not based on crowd enthusiasm or pagentry. Odds are all about statistics, they have nothing to do with crowd involvement.
There are always quite a few of their fans at WB and quite a few of our fans at Clemson. I'd say it will be 25% orange in the stadium.
That's not true at all. A place like LSU, specifically at night, can get as much as a 5 pt spread. Congrats on not being a degenerate gambler though. If you were, you'd know better. (I'm not either, just know some)
Lol. Not talking about a ‘pregame routine’. Geez.
Listen, you guys go win the game for us. You’ve put in a lot of work and are in relatively good shape health-wise. I’ll be there doing my part, motivated, hitting all my assignments; let’s get em.
I don't think it will be 20K there. Maybe 10K. Remember, it's been a loooooong time since we've felt any confidence at all playing them at home.
You said "stable routine". Tell me about how terribly difficult is is for UGA to drive up to Cola.
Nobody EVER said the crowd wins games. The only thing that was said is the crowd has an impact. It's why Dabo has lamented not having any night games this year. It's why Beamer talks about how fortunate we've been to have them. It's why Vegas makes odds the way they do. Hands down, this is the dumbest argument I've ever seen on this board....worse than the Juice/HIPAA argument we had.
Clem's record wasn't much better at that time, so doubtful they were gobbling them up.
Then why did Dabo blast sandstorm in their practice all week? Why did Kentucky? Coaches that make a living winning football games say fans are a huge part of helping the team win. I mean this is a silly argument that yall cant defend.We'll be roundly criticized together. That whoopin' and hollerin' is fun, and gives the fans the illusion of involvement, which is okay. But only lousy teams are rattled by it and a lot of it peters out as the game wears on. Then again, the visitors get used to it and some even enjoy it. They talk about the "great atmosphere".
We'll see. I think a lot of their fans want to come to WB for the game and a lot of Carolina fans have Clemson friends and family they buy tickets for. SC is a small state geographically and Columbia is easy to get to from everywhere in the state so fans have very few barriers to going if they want to and tickets are available. It always seems like the tailgates are full of Clemson fans along with Carolina fans. Rivalry games are always interesting to the visiting team.
lol...I agree. It's funny to peruse taternet. The stories they tell of pee fill balloons, mini bottles, batteries, etc. The general consensus over there is that it's a terrible experience and they'll never come back. There have certainly been more clem fans over the last 5 games in Cola. But I think it'll start going back to normal this year. Could be wrong.
I always laugh at taters and them complaining we throw things on the field and they are much better fans than we are. I was at the last tater home game during the 5 peat run where we beat them by three scores. When Dabo punted with 6 minutes or so left in the game to avoid us scoring again their fans threw bottles and bags and towels onto the field and booed Dabo. I got it all on my phone. Oh the pharisees of clempson.
Anyone who doesn't think the night game is a factor (yes, one of many factors) doesn't deserve to watch football.