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fairgambit

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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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Awfully pessimistic view on the opportunity to witness a national title again when we were 1 play away from playing in the national title game last night. Not so sure about "pummelled" either, I agree we'd likely lose...but no matter how good OSU has been in recent years, we almost always play them tough, and often have the lead at some point in the game, so I don't think it was such a given.

I took Ohio State for a lot, cows still not home so continuing to add.
 
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fairgambit

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Awfully pessimistic view on the opportunity to witness a national title again when we were 1 play away from playing in the national title game last night. Not so sure about "pummelled" either, I agree we'd likely lose...but no matter how good OSU has been in recent years, we almost always play them tough, and often have the lead at some point in the game, so I don't think it was such a given.

I took Ohio State for a lot, cows still not home so continuing to add.
I see my view as realistic. Next year will be an 8 win team. After that, who knows? This was the chance and we blew it.
 
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wbcbus

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I see my view as realistic. Next will be an 8 win team. After that, who knows? This was the chance and we blew it.

You think next year is an 8 win team? Certainly we need to hear more about who is coming back, but if the over/under is set at 8.5, I can tell you I'll be piling money on the over as it stands today. Taking away the 2 years when he first arrived and sanctions were still impacting, James has won 10+ games in 6 of 9 years since. I think that deserves a little more faith.
 

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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.

** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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You think next year is an 8 win team? Certainly we need to hear more about who is coming back, but if the over/under is set at 8.5, I can tell you I'll be piling money on the over as it stands today. Taking away the 2 years when he first arrived and sanctions were still impacting, James has won 10+ games in 6 of 9 years since. I think that deserves a little more faith.
They will lose to Oregon, Ohio State, and Iowa. The 4th loss will be either Indiana or Nebraska. That said, I have not been accurate on my preseason predictions for 47 straight years, but I am overdue. :)
 

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Unless and until our NIL (or payroll, as I prefer to call it) is top 5, we will never see a Natty. And with the divide between our alums and the BOT being deep and wide, that level of contributions is a pipe dream.

Talk about coaching, facilities, or tradition or anything else all you want, if you can't hire the best talent, you aren't winning it all.
 

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Unless and until our NIL (or payroll, as I prefer to call it) is top 5, we will never see a Natty. And with the divide between our alums and the BOT being deep and wide, that level of contributions is a pipe dream.

Talk about coaching, facilities, or tradition or anything else all you want, if you can't hire the best talent, you aren't winning it all.
This is like the people that said that James Franklin will never coach a team to the playoffs (I remember reading that a few times when we were down in games this season).

It's true until it isn't...but this season could have been a "Natty" if things broke differently. We could win a National Title next season with our current NIL level. Or, we could move up to top 5 in NIL and not win won for another 40 years.
 
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This is like the people that said that James Franklin will never coach a team to the playoffs (I remember reading that a few times when we were down in games this season).

It's true until it isn't...but this season could have been a "Natty" if things broke differently. We could win a National Title next season with our current NIL level. Or, we could move up to top 5 in NIL and not win won for another 40 years.
This is like the people that said that James Franklin will never coach a team to the playoffs (I remember reading that a few times when we were down in games this season).

It's true until it isn't...but this season could have been a "Natty" if things broke differently. We could win a National Title next season with our current NIL level. Or, we could move up to top 5 in NIL and not win won for another 40 years.
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Awfully pessimistic view on the opportunity to witness a national title again when we were 1 play away from playing in the national title game last night. Not so sure about "pummelled" either, I agree we'd likely lose...but no matter how good OSU has been in recent years, we almost always play them tough, and often have the lead at some point in the game, so I don't think it was such a given.

I took Ohio State for a lot, cows still not home so continuing to add.
Agree with everything here; however this would have been a big game i.e. a sure loss.
 

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This is like the people that said that James Franklin will never coach a team to the playoffs (I remember reading that a few times when we were down in games this season).

It's true until it isn't...but this season could have been a "Natty" if things broke differently. We could win a National Title next season with our current NIL level. Or, we could move up to top 5 in NIL and not win won for another 40 years.
How about we figure out a way to get our NIL to top 5 and give James equal footing with others in that department.

We are close. Time to close the gap in a few more areas. Just saw that Zane Durant is returning for next year, gotta think improved NIL has something to do with that.
 
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Erial_Lion

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How about we figure out a way to get our NIL to top 5 and give James equal footing with others in that department.

We are close. Time to close the gap in a few more areas. Just saw that Zane Durant is returning for next year, gotta think improved NIL has something to do with that.
Personally, I don't get overly concerned with NIL because there is zero chance that I'd ever give money in a "pay to play" scenario. I'll support businesses that support our student athletes and it's great if others want to do it...if that means that we'll lose out on some star players, then so be it.
 

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Personally, I don't get overly concerned with NIL because there is zero chance that I'd ever give money in a "pay to play" scenario. I'll support businesses that support our student athletes and it's great if others want to do it...if that means that we'll lose out on some star players, then so be it.
I don't disagree- but then I can't complain that we don't win every game.
 

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I encourage all to attend a Yale Harvard game or a FCS championship. Amateur student athletes playing their hearts out. Anybody remember athletes talking about the love of the game?
I often go to D3 games... Love it. My mother and sister still live in Doylestown and I sometimes go to Delaware Valley University games when back in PA visiting. Refreshing to see kids giving it their all and playing for the love of the game with parents and friends in the stands
 

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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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OSU never pummels us for the most part. We lose close but we lose and that's the point. We are not a clutch program anymore. We make big, stupid mistakes in big moments and lack discipline in big moments.
I agree about the players. They are now highly paid athletes and that's why they should deal with the criticism. In the old days I looked at Penn State as amateur kids. No more.
 

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** Now in my 70's, I will never see Penn State win another National Championship in football.
** Thank God for Penn State wrestling and women's volleyball.
** A win last night would have provided the opportunity to get pummelled by Ohio State.
** In the days before NIL and the portal, when athletes played for "Dear Old State", a free education, and a shot at the pros, I felt badly for a kid who screwed up. No longer.
** I do feel badly for anyone who is still bemoaning this loss, unless your kid is on the team. The time to move on was about 5 minutes after the game ended.
** And again, unless your kid is on the team, or any team, college or pro (what's the difference?) please stop wearing gear with any player's name on it. You look like a doofus.
** Take Ohio State tonight and give till the cows come home.
** Finally, I have never cheated on my wife, but please don't leave me alone with Jenna Fischer.
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Why are you poorly trying to touch those who bemoan losses?

Also, you seem very bitter about kids who have had full-time jobs - which made their employers gobs and gobs of money for decades, while they got a mostly fake education as "payment" - actually getting fair compensation for the services they provided ... why do you like indentured servitude, instead?

Why does the success or failure of unrelated wrestlers, volleyball players or football players matter to you at all? And why does the fact that they do or do not receive a "free" meal, or "free" lodging, or a "free" education, or a "free" $1.5M check, matter to whether you care?
 

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OSU never pummels us for the most part. We lose close but we lose and that's the point. We are not a clutch program anymore. We make big, stupid mistakes in big moments and lack discipline in big moments.
I agree about the players. They are now highly paid athletes and that's why they should deal with the criticism. In the old days I looked at Penn State as amateur kids. No more.
So if you work a 40-hour week and only get compensated a "free" education that you barely have time to utilize, while everyone else makes millions upon millions off your labor, you can't be criticized ... but if you get more than that, you can be criticized? What a weird and arbitrary distinction.
 

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Why are you poorly trying to touch those who bemoan losses?

Also, you seem very bitter about kids who have had full-time jobs - which made their employers gobs and gobs of money for decades, while they got a mostly fake education as "payment" - actually getting fair compensation for the services they provided ... why do you like indentured servitude, instead?

Why does the success or failure of unrelated wrestlers, volleyball players or football players matter to you at all? And why does the fact that they do or do not receive a "free" meal, or "free" lodging, or a "free" education, or a "free" $1.5M check, matter to whether you care?
"Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers."
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I see my view as realistic. Next year will be an 8 win team. After that, who knows? This was the chance and we blew it.
Good grief. Go back to cross word puzzles. 8 win team? What is inherently wrong with you Debbie Downers? Can’t get the past back so you’re just going to be negative all the time?
 

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Unless and until our NIL (or payroll, as I prefer to call it) is top 5, we will never see a Natty. And with the divide between our alums and the BOT being deep and wide, that level of contributions is a pipe dream.

Talk about coaching, facilities, or tradition or anything else all you want, if you can't hire the best talent, you aren't winning it all.
I have said this a hundred times… give Franklin $30 million in NIL money…then judge him
 

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This is like the people that said that James Franklin will never coach a team to the playoffs (I remember reading that a few times when we were down in games this season).

It's true until it isn't...but this season could have been a "Natty" if things broke differently. We could win a National Title next season with our current NIL level. Or, we could move up to top 5 in NIL and not win won for another 40 years.
Yeah. Those people move the goalposts all the time. We heard Franklin has to get the team to the playoffs or he is a failure. So, Franklin gets the team to the playoffs, plays for a B1G title, wins 2 playoff games and makes the national semifinals losing in a last minute FG….and people still b*tch and moan. Keep in mind, none of these people put one minute or ounce of time or effort into offseason lifts, early morning runs, film sessions, training room rehab, etc, but to quote Bob, “They deserve better”. They complain from their couch. Some need to grow up.
 
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Yeah. Those people move the goalposts all the time. We heard Franklin has to get the team to the playoffs or he is a failure. So, Franklin gets the team to the playoffs, plays for a B1G title, wins 2 playoff games and makes the national semifinals losing in a last minute FG….and people still b*tch and moan. Keep in mind, none of these people put one minute or ounce of time or effort into offseason lifts, early morning runs, film sessions, training room rehab, etc, but to quote Bob, “They deserve better”. They complain from their couch. Some need to grow up.
Blame Tom! When we had the Weather Thread there would be no complaining about winning a mere 13 games!
 
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Good grief. Go back to cross word puzzles. 8 win team? What is inherently wrong with you Debbie Downers? Can’t get the past back so you’re just going to be negative all the time?
In fairness to fairgambit, he's a Joebot who checked out of PSU football fandom a long, long time ago ... and he's been somewhere between salty and hiding-disdain-through-alleged-apathy ever since. If he posted something positive toward, or in an excited manner about the program, you'd probably want to call the authorities, because it's code for him being held hostage and he's in distress.
 
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Good grief. Go back to cross word puzzles. 8 win team? What is inherently wrong with you Debbie Downers? Can’t get the past back so you’re just going to be negative all the time?
Wait just a minute. Can I borrow your glasses?
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Thanks! Ah, yes. That's better!

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My mistake was trying to be objective when all I really needed was a good pair of glasses. Let's call the regular season 12-0 and hold the playoff predictions for later.
By the way. Michigan won a Natty in 2023, finishing 15-0. Some expected a down season this year with the coaching change and player turnover. They were generally criticized for their negativity. Michigan finished this season 8-5.

That said, I am off to a birthday party. Peace!
 

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In fairness to fairgambit, he's a Joebot who checked out of PSU football fandom a long, long time ago ... and he's been somewhere between salty and hiding-disdain-through-alleged-apathy ever since. If he posted something positive toward, or in an excited manner about the program, you'd probably want to call the authorities, because it's code for him being held hostage and he's in distress.
He disappeared for most of the season. I guess it was too much PSU positivity for him. Shows up now that the season ended to bemoan everything PSU. He isn’t the only one. There were a handful of others who did the same.
 

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Wait just a minute. Can I borrow your glasses?
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My mistake was trying to be objective when all I really needed was a good pair of glasses. Let's call the regular season 12-0 and hold the playoff predictions for later.
By the way. Michigan won a Natty in 2023, finishing 15-0. Some expected a down season this year with the coaching change and player turnover. They were generally criticized for their negativity. Michigan finished this season 8-5.
You would crucify Franklin with an 8-5 record.
 

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In fairness to fairgambit, he's a Joebot who checked out of PSU football fandom a long, long time ago ... and he's been somewhere between salty and hiding-disdain-through-alleged-apathy ever since. If he posted something positive toward, or in an excited manner about the program, you'd probably want to call the authorities, because it's code for him being held hostage and he's in distress.
I’m pretty much there with him. At this point, who cares if you pay $20M and the other school pays $10M so you win most of the time?
 
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