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The crazy part is the majority of that $1B comes from television rights for March Madness. I believe they bring in $900M annually for that. And it's disbursed to the member universities. What other 2 week long amateur event draws a price tag of $900M to televise?
Yes, the cash that flows from March Madness is insane. Will be interesting to see that the new playoff structure of football does to overall revenue.
 

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Yes, the cash that flows from March Madness is insane. Will be interesting to see that the new playoff structure of football does to overall revenue.
Absolutely. I can't imagine the money a 16 team playoff would make. I always thought it was stupid to mess around with 12 teams, then have to deal with the 4 team bye and all that noise. Just make it 16, make a boatload of money, and keep it simple.
 

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But it's been that way forever. What hasn't been this way forever is the ridiculous increase in money flowing through these ADs. HBC got a raise and extension to $4M in 2014. At that time, it made him one of the top 10 paid coaches in the country. Saban was making $5.4M. Fast forward 10 years, and Saban was making $11.4M and to get into the top 10 club you have to make at least $9M. If you want to be even more baffled go back to 2005 when HBC was hired making $1.25M/yr.

In 2005 the USC AD brought in $46M. In 2022 it brought in $142M. So everyone else involved gets HUGE raises and shiny new toys. The players get what they've always gotten....education, meals, and a dorm.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

There are some fans that are unhappy with the changes and want to make "greedy" players the villain. They are not the villain in this story. If you are looking for who to blame, look square at the NCAA, the TV networks, the conferences and the schools. All of these were happy pocketing all this cash with the players getting nothing because of their own greed. As the revenues exploding, they had many opportunities to do something for the players and chose not too....instead falling back to their own greed. And whatdya know....the system we have landed on allows those that were greedy to keep racking in the cash and now the fans are asked to pony up more $ so that the players can have a cut. That's what is messed up.

And some of the highest paid coaches were the worst in this. Yes, I am looking at you Dabo as you railed against any revenue opportunities for players all while rushing to the bank to cash your own $10 million check.
 

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

There are some fans that are unhappy with the changes and want to make "greedy" players the villain. They are not the villain in this story. If you are looking for who to blame, look square at the NCAA, the TV networks, the conferences and the schools. All of these were happy pocketing all this cash with the players getting nothing because of their own greed. As the revenues exploding, they had many opportunities to do something for the players and chose not too....instead falling back to their own greed. And whatdya know....the system we have landed on allows those that were greedy to keep racking in the cash and now the fans are asked to pony up more $ so that the players can have a cut. That's what is messed up.

And some of the highest paid coaches were the worst in this. Yes, I am looking at you Dabo as you railed against any revenue opportunities for players all while rushing to the bank to cash your own $10 million check.
100%!! After the O'bannon suit, they should have done some meaningful reform then. But they didn't...bc it would take money out of their pockets. Their solution is the current scenario, where they still don't have come out of pocket for anything, and push the burden to fans. Then want to try to spin a narrative that these kids are selfish, not loyal, and "this is what's wrong with society today". What a shock...bureaucratic university presidents extorting money from the middle class to line their pockets.
 

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But it's been that way forever. What hasn't been this way forever is the ridiculous increase in money flowing through these ADs. HBC got a raise and extension to $4M in 2014. At that time, it made him one of the top 10 paid coaches in the country. Saban was making $5.4M. Fast forward 10 years, and Saban was making $11.4M and to get into the top 10 club you have to make at least $9M. If you want to be even more baffled go back to 2005 when HBC was hired making $1.25M/yr.

In 2005 the USC AD brought in $46M. In 2022 it brought in $142M. So everyone else involved gets HUGE raises and shiny new toys. The players get what they've always gotten....education, meals, and a dorm.
Look at NCAAFB like America's Got Talent. AGT makes a ton of money televising the auditioning of amateurs who get a shot at going on to be a big star and make major money. College football players are getting the same opportunity, and many reap the $$$$$ benefits - some do not. The amateurs on AGT get nothing like the value of a free college education for the audition but college football players do get something with value for their audition opportunity.
 

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Look at NCAAFB like America's Got Talent. AGT makes a ton of money televising the auditioning of amateurs who get a shot at going on to be a big star and make major money. College football players are getting the same opportunity, and many reap the $$$$$ benefits - some do not. The amateurs on AGT get nothing like the value of a free college education for the audition but college football players do get something with value for their audition opportunity.
internet seriously GIF
 

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Look at NCAAFB like America's Got Talent. AGT makes a ton of money televising the auditioning of amateurs who get a shot at going on to be a big star and make major money. College football players are getting the same opportunity, and many reap the $$$$$ benefits - some do not. The amateurs on AGT get nothing like the value of a free college education for the audition but college football players do get something with value for their audition opportunity.
Any attempted comparison fails when you are not comparing like things. Such as trying to draw a parallel between someone who walks on a stage and sings a 2-minute song and someone who spends 4 years of their life going to practice everyday, in constant team meetings, playing 13 games a year risking their health, nursing and rehab'ing injuries, etc.

Come on.
 

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Any attempted comparison fails when you are not comparing like things. Such as trying to draw a parallel between someone who walks on a stage and sings a 2-minute song and someone who spends 4 years of their life going to practice everyday, in constant team meetings, playing 13 games a year risking their health, nursing and rehab'ing injuries, etc.

Come on.
The auditions are not a job. Both situations are chosen and are not mandatory.
 

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The auditions are not a job. Both situations are chosen and are not mandatory.
Your arguments really are not making any sense. You are basically saying the only way anyone in any scenario can expect to be treated legally and fairly is if they are forced to participate against their will? Its just nonsense.
 

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NCAA abdicated their responsibility and the opportunity to lead. All of this is downstream due to their childish entitlement while in power and their naked cowardice once they lost control.
Wow. That is a very erudite observation.
 

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Your arguments really are not making any sense. You are basically saying the only way anyone in any scenario can expect to be treated legally and fairly is if they are forced to participate against their will? Its just nonsense.

Not sure that's what he is saying. He's saying that people signed up for that "job", then complained about how unfair that "job" was once they got it. Meaning, they knew what they were getting into.

But then, that just makes them like everyone else. :)
 

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They spend whatever is available to spend. If they had $1 billion, they'd spend $1 billion. My guess is the nonsensical facility builds would go away. You'd stop seeing coordinators making $2M/yr. You wouldn't see anybody paying a coach $75M to walk away. Sorry Dawn, but coaches of non revenue generating sports would drop dramatically. That's where it's going to get interesting. A lot of coaches have been pro NIL. Lets see what they think when they have to take cuts to fund it.

I personally wonder if some of the non revenu sports may disappear at some schools? Budget cuts, big budget cuts, will have to come if millions start being diverted to the players.
 

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1. That's why there are athletic scholarships and academic scholarships
2. A $30,000 - $100,000 college degree, room and board, medical care, etc. is not zero
Well, when the SCOTUS made their ruling, they said that those things were deemed benefits and it is not acceptable to use that as a replacement for payment for services.
 

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Well, when the SCOTUS made their ruling, they said that those things were deemed benefits and it is not acceptable to use that as a replacement for payment for services.
Take away the "benefits" from athletes and let them pay for their own education with the money they earn from their "job" as an athlete. Athletes whose NIL money isn't enough to pay for room, board, tuition, etc. will have to pay the balance out of pocket for school. Make acceptance to the school through regular admission channels and being a full time student a requirement for having the "job" of college athlete. Make athletes accountable for their on field or court results and have to meet performance standards in order to keep their "job". Failure to meet expectations can result in termination from the "job" and loss of NIL and other job related revenue to the athlete.
 

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Take away the "benefits" from athletes and let them pay for their own education with the money they earn from their "job" as an athlete. Athletes whose NIL money isn't enough to pay for room, board, tuition, etc. will have to pay the balance out of pocket for school. Make acceptance to the school through regular admission channels and being a full time student a requirement for having the "job" of college athlete. Make athletes accountable for their on field or court results and have to meet performance standards in order to keep their "job". Failure to meet expectations can result in termination from the "job" and loss of NIL and other job related revenue to the athlete.
Folks say the “student athlete” has been a myth for a very long time, so why perpetuate the myth by offering a free education any longer?
 

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Take away the "benefits" from athletes and let them pay for their own education with the money they earn from their "job" as an athlete. Athletes whose NIL money isn't enough to pay for room, board, tuition, etc. will have to pay the balance out of pocket for school. Make acceptance to the school through regular admission channels and being a full time student a requirement for having the "job" of college athlete. Make athletes accountable for their on field or court results and have to meet performance standards in order to keep their "job". Failure to meet expectations can result in termination from the "job" and loss of NIL and other job related revenue to the athlete.
So what would you do to make up for those who do not get those NIL deals as well as those who do not have full-ride scholarships? It is going to be hard to field full teams without those players also.