That SEC Shorts taping at the Grant Presidential Library…

Maroon Eagle

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It’s part of a commercial for Visit Mississippi showcasing Starkville and Oxford that was posted this morning.

It’s on Facebook — just look for Visit Mississippi.

Unfortunately, I can’t link it but since it’s not really football related, it could be a good thing.

Haven’t seen it at other social media sites yet.

And I don’t really expect SEC Shorts to post it since it’s not an official skit.
 
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Leeshouldveflanked

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That's the most run Starkville/State has gotten from these guys in 10 years. Also I know the Edam cheese is like our thing, but the Muscadine Ripple ice cream is legit the best thing produced locally.
What have we accomplished in 10 years to require any positive attention?
 

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It would be nice for Keenum to use his political influence to lobby for a "grant" to build proper presidential library that is also a mini civil war museum. Build it somewhere that folks could easily get to it and tour it, preferably near the Hunter Henry Abomination, I mean Center. Something to draw people in and another thing to do with kids/visitors on game day. We need attractions.
 

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It would be nice for Keenum to use his political influence to lobby for a "grant" to build proper presidential library that is also a mini civil war museum. Build it somewhere that folks could easily get to it and tour it, preferably near the Hunter Henry Abomination, I mean Center. Something to draw people in and another thing to do with kids/visitors on game day. We need attractions.
Keenum’s political influence went out the door with Bush.
 

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My rec
It would be nice for Keenum to use his political influence to lobby for a "grant" to build proper presidential library that is also a mini civil war museum. Build it somewhere that folks could easily get to it and tour it, preferably near the Hunter Henry Abomination, I mean Center. Something to draw people in and another thing to do with kids/visitors on game day. We need attractions.
my recommendation was to have a museum like that with a bar when you leave instead of a gift shop with the theme “celebrate a victory over the rebels”
 

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Hmmm, pretty typical review of both.

House divided here and spent to much time in both places in the past few years....I will say:

There is definitely different social classes of people at the games and towns of the two schools. There is a cross section of social classes. However they definitely have more money, preppy types. I can tell you they have many many parents of OOS students that have lots of money, that hang out ant the restaurant and bars and embrace the whole snobby uppity vibes. State is much more Mississippi and are more middle class down to earth people. Some of us embrace being rednecks. Which is why Hardy's rednecker needs to be played over and over pregame next Egg bowl.

Bars and restaurants and all that.... Oxford is just better marketed and centrally located in town but Starkville has just as much to offer in that department. Last game: I overheard a middle aged lady, Mo fan, ask the dude in the seat below for restaurant:bar recommendations. The dude told her Lil Doeys and Dave's. Come on man.... no. I later gave her Luva, Taste, Tyler, Harvey's, Guest Room and Rosie Baby's upper bar or Stagger or Hobies to watch a game.

Oxford the town definitely has more money. When you look at the new growth. Starkville just needs a plan to get more people in the area to stay and raise families there. All the growth at GTR is a step in that direction.

just my .02.
 
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I always thought that it was hilarious that Grant's presidential library was in Mississippi. He beat the south so bad they hung his championship banner in the loser's stadium. We are honestly lucky to have it. He is a great American.

He'd be entertaining to tailgate with as well.
 
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Hmmm, pretty typical review of both.

House divided here and spent to much time in both places in the past few years....I will say:

There is definitely different social classes of people at the games and towns of the two schools. There is a cross section of social classes. However they definitely have more money, preppy types. I can tell you they have many many parents of OOS students that have lots of money, that hang out ant the restaurant and bars and embrace the whole snobby uppity vibes. State is much more Mississippi and are more middle class down to earth people. Some of us embrace being rednecks. Which is why Hardy's rednecker needs to be played over and over pregame next Egg bowl.

Bars and restaurants and all that.... Oxford is just better marketed and centrally located in town but Starkville has just as much to offer in that department. Last game: I overheard a middle aged lady, Mo fan, ask the dude in the seat below for restaurant:bar recommendations. The dude told her Lil Doeys and Dave's. Come on man.... no. I later gave her Luva, Taste, Tyler, Harvey's, Guest Room and Rosie Baby's upper bar or Stagger or Hobies to watch a game.

Oxford the town definitely has more money. When you look at the new growth. Starkville just needs a plan to get more people in the area to stay and raise families there. All the growth at GTR is a step in that direction.

just my .02.
The kid that lives across the street from us picked State over Ole Miss because he said when he visited Ole Miss/Oxford it felt like he was going out of state for college. When he came to tour campus he said it felt like home because everyone was from Mississippi. Of course that may or may not be appealing to some but that’s how he felt.
 

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I always thought that it was hilarious that Grant's presidential library was in Mississippi. He beat the south so bad they hung his championship banner in the loser's stadium. We are honestly lucky to have it. He is a great American.
State has the grant library because of one man. History professor John Marzalek. I was not a history major but took his History of Sports in America course in the early 80s.
 

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Grant saved the Union in the 1860s. He was a true American hero.
Makes you wonder what would be of the US if, at. Shiloh, that bullet that struck Sherman’s hand was in his chest and if it was Grant that caught a fatal bullet and not Johnston.

There was a lot of national consequential “what if” in those wet fields in the middle of nowhere TN in April of 1862.
 

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Makes you wonder what would be of the US if, at. Shiloh, that bullet that struck Sherman’s hand was in his chest and if it was Grant that caught a fatal bullet and not Johnston.

There was a lot of national consequential “what if” in those wet fields in the middle of nowhere TN in April of 1862.
No question Grant's campaigns from Shiloh through Vicksburg won the war. It went on for another couple of years, but it was over after Vicksburg fell.
 
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No question Grant's campaigns from Shiloh through Vicksburg won the war. It went on for another couple of years, but it was over after Vicksburg fell.
Vicksburg falling was so devastating to the Confederacy’s war effort that I don’t see how it’s almost an afterthought when Civil War history is taught.

And if Grant was not at Shiloh, or that dumbass General Henry Halleck was on the field, the Union would have probably withdrawn the first night. It was even on the mind of Sherman when he went and spoke to Grant the night of the first day. Grant made it clear there would be a counter the next day. And that counter basically set into motion of the war in the west being over.
 
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It would be nice for Keenum to use his political influence to lobby for a "grant" to build proper presidential library that is also a mini civil war museum. Build it somewhere that folks could easily get to it and tour it, preferably near the Hunter Henry Abomination, I mean Center. Something to draw people in and another thing to do with kids/visitors on game day. We need attractions.
He has and gotten $30m in funding to do so. Fundraising for the rest of the balance, but plan is to build on corner of Russell and 12
 

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I always thought that it was hilarious that Grant's presidential library was in Mississippi. He beat the south so bad they hung his championship banner in the loser's stadium. We are honestly lucky to have it. He is a great American.
I enjoy thinking of it being in Starkville as a stick in the eye to the "rebels".
 
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Somebody acting surprised that William Faulkner’s home is in Oxford is the least believable thing in this video. Outside of their weird antebellum worship and lasting association with Jim Crow laws, it’s their most defining characteristic.
 

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Somebody acting surprised that William Faulkner’s home is in Oxford is the least believable thing in this video. Outside of their weird antebellum worship and lasting association with Jim Crow laws, it’s their most defining characteristic.
That whole thing has the look of something that was written by a tourism bureau and not by professionals. Guess I don't blame the guys for doing it though, I'm sure they got paid.
 

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I’m not sure that I would consider Grant a Great American or a Great tactical General. He was the right man at the right time in history. Grant was a failure at every thing he tried prior to the war and Grants presidental administration has been considered the most corrupt and inept administration in history. Resent administrations have challenged that moniker but only time will tell if they’ve surpassed it. What made Grant successful during the war was his understanding that it was a war of attrition and the north had more lives to sacrifice vs the more sparsly populated south. He also wasn’t a political general and swayed by public opinion so he didn’t care about casualties as long as he was bleeding the south dry faster. This made Grant a great general and he probably shortened the war but his tactics came with a huge human cost.
 
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