That disclosure should foster open communications with his new minders in Seattle.
That sucks for Will Rogers if true...
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I made comments to that effect. That Will called his own plays that game. Robbie Faulk said I was an idiot. That game was not like any other game. It definitely was not a Barbay called offense.
Not really
He might have thought he was going air raid and couldn’t get who he wanted
Will Rogers was a good qb
Will Rogers wasn’t elite but he was good
He’s gone now
Lots of things can be true today that won’t be true tomorrow
the above things will still be true tomorrow
That wasn't a "white lie". That was a get in your face 17 you lie.
Personally, I'm glad the truth came out. Why are you so negative about our local sportswriter reporting a story?
I supposed that could be true, be he was at ground zero of Leach’s air raid and tore it apart. All he needed was one more year to get through it, then re-evaluate.
Arnett brought pretty much anybody that was associated with him down a notch or two with the few months he was in charge. Still, I’d love to know how much Keenum was in his ear about things.
It’s been an abysmal run for State athletics since the Pirate went home.
I do. It’s true. Got it from a real human source & a good one a couple of weeks ago. Hell, he publicly lied to all of us that he wasn’t abandoning the air raid and then he obviously did. Why is it so hard to believe he told Will the same lie to his face?
Even if that’s true, none of that explains why he still chose to leave almost 3 weeks after Arnett had been fired, or why he transferred to another non-AR system where he’s not even going to be guaranteed to be the starter.
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Because it's BS. Will is about to be playing in a similar offense this year if he plays. But it was a problem here? Had he left last year, same deal. Nevermind the OC we thought we had lined up backed out too. But you guys eat up their BS. That's an OM family running down State is all that's about.
And if you're involved in sports, this helicopter parenting his family does is terrible. They blame everybody for his shortcomings. It's always somebody else.
Still need a Rogers board apparently
Coaches tell white lies ? LOL, Arnett is a moron and lost the team with his dishonest crap. How can anyone be defending this ? You don’t tell lies to players to get them to waste a year of eligibility , you are up front and honest with them.
Yea but Robbie was crowing about how great the offense was after the south east Louisiana game, lmao. He doesn’t know football at all. That is clear.
It’s obvious Arnett had lost the locker room. You don’t fire a coach after 11 games unless the players just quit on him. I’m assuming Will isn’t the only guy he lied to if the entire team quit on him like they did.
Oh a source! Yay!
Again, he could have told will that thinking he wasn’t abandoning the air raid and then plans changed.
Sources are like @$$holes. Everyone has them and they all smell. Especially yours.
That’s great in whatever utopia you live but we live in the real world of college football and NIL.
I’m not for or against will. He’s gone. Arnett is gone.
I’m speaking purely from logic and reason.
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Nobody’s defending Arnett. That’s a whole different topic.
Rogers knew damn well the offense was changing before the spring. Could have entered the portal in April / May. He didn’t.
He knew it was changing again after Arnett got canned with 2 games to go. He could have waited out the hire to see if it could work out. He didn’t.
Then he knew he wasn’t going to be running the Air Raid at Washington with the Fisch hire, and he could have picked a better fit after that hire. He didn’t.
None of the actions jive with the words of his dad. Nothing adds up here and it just sounds like sour grapes that his whole transfer plan didn’t work out better than it did.
I'm going to go with Arnett wanted to be fired and cash in. Maybe he talked to Jimbo about that idea.
Or how about this:
Will loved MSU the same way we do...felt loyalty to his teammates as well. By Spring it was not necessarily clear what was going to happen, as the thought was that the system Barbay was bringing on was still, come the season, going to be at least pass-heavy. Also, starting over is already challenging, especially for a QB.
And trying to transfer after Spring training is no bueno for a QB who has to learn the offense completely for the season coming up without benefit of Spring training with a new team and coaches.
As far as Washington, I don't need to get into why that, with Deboer would have been a good fit. By the time it was Fisch, the portal opportunities had dwindled. Fisch & staff met and told them good things, and it is likely UW was the best option in the end.
Nothing his dad is quoted saying is in conflict with any of this.
I don’t know what happened to him. I’m going with it went to his head when he got the job & thought he knew everything. He obviously was nowhere near the right man for the job. And that falls on Keenum.
When did Will “throw **** at State?” Hell, when has any of our former players who transfer done that?
Please believe, I was critical of The Noodster in 2022 and looking forward to Leach teams post Rogers. But I knew he was far and away the best QB we had in 2023 by a country mile.
Gasp! Coaches lie to recruits and players? You don't say!
His team he can run it how he wants and he did and he got fired for doing it that way. Don't remember the players or players family getting to choose the offense being ran.
His family is all ole miss fans anyway. They will be cheering for the bears again this season if they weren't already.
His team he can run it how he wants and he did and he got fired for doing it that way. Don't remember the players or players family getting to choose the offense being ran.
His family is all ole miss fans anyway. They will be cheering for the bears again this season if they weren't already.
Two things: 1. Will is prominent in college football because Mike Leach made him prominent
2. I would personally be very surprised if State has heard the last from Rogers and/or his family.
2. I would personally be very surprised if State has heard the last from Rogers and/or his family.
To be clear, I hold no ill will (pun intended) towards Will. I even think he performed pretty well, all things considered, when healthy in 2023….and the stats bear that out too. He proved he can be more than just an Air Raid QB if he has to be.
But none of it makes sense. If he was truly “loyal to his teammates”, why didn’t he at least give it a chance with Lebby….or at least just wait until the hire was made before entering the portal? I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with him just deciding to move on…that’s fine. Just don’t think you can play the loyalty card, if you do.
At the end of the day, his dad’s words are his dad’s words. May or may not represent Will’s thought process. Doesn’t affect my opinion of Will in either case.
I suspect he knew Lebby wanted a QB capable of being a real dual-threat. Nothing in his dad's words showed any ill-will (no pun intended) against MSU...just ZA.
Dont he enter the portal before we hired lebby though?
Even still, I don’t blame him for going to try to find a coach he can work with rather than hoping we can find a coach that can work with him… seeing as how that didn’t exactly work out for him the previous year
Good catch. I was going to include that as well, but wasn't sure, so left it out.
That’s correct. Rogers family or Will have never said anything against MSU. I’m sure Will is not the only one who feels those that way, that whole class of seniors got screwed by that horrible staff. I’ve heard 3-4 different parents comment on the locker rooms opinion of the coaching staff. It wasn’t good.
But he was already in the portal before Lebby was even a blip on the radar. It seems he just wanted to move on. Which again is totally fine.
Hope good things happen for Will and MSU. Time to move on.
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