Again, the people telling you fossil fuels are killing the world and we need to quit using them keep burning them faster than anyone else. But feel free to stay scared.
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Um, you seem to think a couple high profile arguable cases of this proves it for everyone.
Is this how you think people should treat religion?
My balls sweat when the climate is hot. My nipples get hard when it's cold. We need a climate taint. Somewhere in the middle would be good.
I stand behind my previous statement that the paper straw was the worst invention of the 19th century, and that the resurgence of such as a political touchstone is the scourge of modern humanity.
Thats not a strawman. The strawman would be saying "hey, that one guy is a hypocrite so none of your facts or reasoning counts!", which is what he is attempting.
Again, You keep talking about the politicians.
Which is completely missing the point.
It's
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There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause.
For your reading: It's not hard to find
More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change.
Out of 88,000 peer reviewed papers on Climate change from 2012-2020. Only, 28 were sceptical it was caused by Humans...
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Evidence - NASA Science
Takeaways The rate of change since the mid-20th century is unprecedented over millennia. Earth’s climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking...
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A search for human influences on the thermal structure of the atmosphere - Nature
The observed spatial patterns of temperature change in the free atmosphere from 1963 to 1987 are similar to those predicted by state-of-the-art climate models incorporating various combinations of changes in carbon dioxide, anthropogenic sulphate aerosol and stratospheric ozone concentrations...
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Climate change: The evidence and our options - Perspectives on Behavior Science
Glaciers serve as early indicators of climate change. Over the last 35 years, our research team has recovered ice-core records of climatic and environmental variations from the polar regions and from low-latitude high-elevation ice fields from 16 countries. The ongoing widespread melting of...
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my last swing. I apologize for saying “politicians”. 99.5% of the people funding those studies condemning fossil fuel use burn more than than the average person. Keep scared, brother. I gotta get back to chopping up this tree blown down by the storm so I can heat my house this winter.
As noble as the thought of ending poverty is, it will never happen. There will always be poor people. If minimum wage was increased tomorrow to $100,000/yr and those without a job were given that in UBI, then in short order you'd see prices on everything dramatically increase. I remember my dad telling me when my parents were recently married he got a raise to $250/wk. He remembered him and mom talking about how would they ever spend that much money. $6.25/hr and they thought they had hit the lottery.
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The heatwave of 2023 isn't in the ballpark of past US heatwaves like 1936. Your red hot map is uninformative propaganda. #ClimateScam
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The heatwave of 2023 isn't in the ballpark of past US heatwaves like 1936. Your red hot map is uninformative propaganda. #ClimateScam
"People funding those studies". Who would they be?
Scared? Brah, it ain't fear to recognize the smart move and want that. It's fear to ignore reality. Keep scared, sheep.
That's....not how economics works. Some goods would go up in price. Others wouldn't at all, because the cost to bring them to market hasn't changed and there will always be someone willing to do that for a given profit.
People that are bad with money will always be bad with money, no matter what you give them. Those people will always be "poor". There's a big range of "poor" though.
I'd be willing to bet the goods most frequently purchased by poor people would be the ones increasing in price. Now whether that's through natural supply and demand or corporations seeing an avenue to increase profits it would happen. Yachts, computers, and high end cars may not go up but you can guarantee mid priced cars, phones, etc would.
I'll take that bet.
The "Goods most frequently purchased by poor people" has been studied. and Surprise, it's things EVERYONE SPENDS MONEY ON. Mainly the things people need to survive. And since you cannot horde food, transportation, rent, utilities, or cell service, I'm betting that they would not "go up in price". It might ake a little time for the market to adjust if everyone got money at once. But we have data on that from COVID with the Trump Checks....
Trump Checks showed it's good for the economy to provide a universal basic income. Because the poor spend all the money while the rich save it. Spending is better than saving in our economy. Saving money only helps the saver. Spending helps many.
In the short term, sure. But in short order prices on non-supply constrained goods will go back to where they were. Because their price is dictated by a set cost plus a small profit, and doesn't respond to demand. Otherwise, all of modern econ theory is wrong, markets don't react to maximizing profit, new entrants don't respond to profit opportunity, things are just dictated by corporate overlords.
No, economics is not a morality play. Just because you want prices on those things to go up as "punishment" because "those people" aren't supposed to get free money, doesn't mean that it will. Economics doesn't care about morality or what hurts your feelings.
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