There appears to be a serious chasm between SEC 1,2 & 3 and rest of the bunch

57stratdawg

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There appears to be a serious chasm between SEC 1,2 & 3 and rest of the bunch

After Ark it gets real ugly.

There are 4 teams basically guaranteed to make the tournament, beyond that all bets are off.
 

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The SEC will get 8 teams in a regional and none of them will go 0-2. 4 will make a super and 3 will make the CWS.
 

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While the top 3-4 are definitely playing lights-out, there isn't a great deal of difference (talent wise) from some of the next few teams. Hell LSU has a pretty damn good team. I just cannot explain what when on with them early in the SEC season. However, I think they're playing well now. Hell if we had one solid starting pitcher, we would be not far.
 

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Two Very Good Pitchers

Seems we all have one, or can peice together a group of pitchers.
 

57stratdawg

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OM and LSU don't deserve to go to regionals. They're a great example of what's wrong with RPI rankings. If those two teams had started off with an RPI around 50 instead of around 10, they wouldn't even be in contention. They've spent all year proving why they shouldn't be in the field.

SEC will get 6 or 7 in Regionals. The SEC will be lucky to get 2 to Omaha, and those 2 come from Vandy, UF, and South Car.
 

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To be an elite team, you need seven solid pitchers- three weekend starters, a midweek starter/long relief guy, two set-up guys, and a closer.
 

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What does that even mean?I don't claim to be an expert on such things, but doesn't the baseball RPI just involve your record, your opponents' records, and your opponents' opponents' records? How do any of those start out at anything other than 0-0?

I presume what you're saying, though, is that if Ole Miss and LSU weren't in the SEC they wouldn't even be in contention. The RPI is biased toward stronger conferences that play tougher schedules. It is what it is, though. Accounting for your record, your opponents' records, and an objective notion of SoS is all it claims to do.

But we're not talking college football here where you have to be near the top 25 to even have a shot at a title. Who are you suggesting has a more deserving shot at Omaha that's being left out? Schools from weaker conferences that didn't have lopsided records?

PS, I just parsed "can't tell the forrest from the trees" as "can't tell the female reproductive organ from the trees" thanks to Moore. Anyone else?
 

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that's your opinion, but I can tell you that anyone with any sense knows LSU is one of the top 50 teams in the nation.</p>
 

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that we needed two more good pitchers, on top of what we already have.

Yes the list could go on.
 

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Mississippi and LSU are better than several teams that will get at-large bids. Put either of those teams in most any conference other than the SEC or ACC and they'd be upper division teams.
 

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patdog said:
Mississippi and LSU are better than several teams that will get at-large bids. Put either of those teams in most any conference other than the SEC or ACC and they'd be upper division teams.

That's probably true, but all that proves is that the NCAA tournament in baseball is too big. They could go back to the 48 team format and be just fine.

In a 64 team format, us and LSU definitely are better than every team that will get left out. That doesn't mean we're good though.

Call it parity or whatever, but the SEC to me is down this year, or at least the West is. South Carolina, Florida, and Vandy are much better than the rest of the league. The West is filled with average teams. There really isn't much difference between any of the West teams. Every one of the West teams has serious flaws somewhere. Each team has some redeeming qualities, but they're all flawed.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
patdog said:
Mississippi and LSU are better than several teams that will get at-large bids. Put either of those teams in most any conference other than the SEC or ACC and they'd be upper division teams.

That's probably true, but all that proves is that the NCAA tournament in baseball is too big. They could go back to the 48 team format and be just fine.

In a 64 team format, us and LSU definitely are better than every team that will get left out. That doesn't mean we're good though.

Call it parity or whatever, but the SEC to me is down this year, or at least the West is. South Carolina, Florida, and Vandy are much better than the rest of the league. The West is filled with average teams. There really isn't much difference between any of the West teams. Every one of the West teams has serious flaws somewhere. Each team has some redeeming qualities, but they're all flawed.
I agree that LSU is hella talented, but at this point you are what your record says you are - especially in SEC play. There are only 4 ranked SEC teams, and if Ark loses today they might not be ranked next week. It's the first time since '91 that a division winner was at .500. What else do you need to know?

If the teams in the SEC West were a in the Big XII everyone would feel much differently about them.

Brusier's right. Every team in the West has serious flaws. There will not be an SEC West team in Omaha this year. I'll be surprised if there is more than 1 in a Super Regional.