Well first of all if you die poor who cares? Your dead
second, he will not die poor
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This may do it for me. This isn’t fun anymore
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second, he will not die poor
I would love to see an economic analysis of the current system in NCAA football. Obviously, alumni aren’t in it for revenue maximization, and it gets weird when you have billionaire outliers contributing, but it’d be fascinating to look at from a game theory perspective
They can’t. Like I said we called dibs years ago.
Preach on, Mcdawg. It’s like these guys don’t understand how the dibs system works legally.
The problem is trying to maintain some level of fair competition. Its the reason that professional leagues have salary caps and player contracts and the worst teams get the first draft picks. Otherwise every pro player would be a free agent every year looking to get whatever any team will throw at him. Sports is entertainment. Its not a business making money off widgets. If sports aren't competitive then they lose most of their entertainment value.
I agree, but college has never been fair. It's always been about who has the most dedicated fanbase, therefore money, and ability to attract talent. The equation changes for everyone. More fans equals more money equals better coaches equals better players equals wins. Add or subtract wherever you want but that's what it is. That's why the biggest fanbases in the most talent rich areas generally have won more, at least modern day. Back in the old days it was much more about school too so teams that weren't in talent rich areas could exploit things to win, like Prop 48 or whatever it was. TV contracts played into it as well.
Literally nothing works in the favor of MSU. The only reason we've remained viable is because we made the outstanding investment of being a founding member of the SEC.
What the hell was wrong with athletic scholarship that give an 18 year old a free education, room and board. That is worth thousands upon thousands of dollars and a free pathway to adulthood that will sustain you for life.
Because you still end up with certain schools having their offensive linemen "employed" by the car dealership.
One of y'all young whippersnappers need to become an entrepreneur and invest in the Bulldog NIL.
The days of that mirage are never returning. The players are now simply employees of the NIL collectives and are playing on 6 month, loosely written and agreed upon contracts.
I could not care less whether they go to class or don’t and please spare me the SEC honor roll BS and patches on the jerseys signifying their major.
I’m now like the drunk guy in Road House throwing a bottle at Jeff Healey.. You’re paid to play, so play.
"What's his story? You 17 with Xenomorph, he'll seal your fate"
We are about done. We bought season tickets again this year. I have been attending our games at the average of about 5 a year since 1961 so I guess this makes 61 straight years and a total of more than 300 football games. Plus a some basketball games and a ton of baseball games. However, I have had it with this whole recent 3 ring circus. This will be our last year to attend any games in any sport. We still have our health and would love to attend games but we are drawing a line in the sand. This whole NIL and portal thing has ruined College sports. I have always been extremely passionate about my Bulldogs and when it’s reached a point where it has literally run us off, they have real problems. I know many others that have those same feelings.
What about the Chargers and Silverados BAMA use to give recruits? Probably no Taxes on those. I guess now they can buy whatever they want.
First kudos for your support. The problem I see is when a man buys tickets he's made a tangible purchase and has at least something to show for his money. When a man throws a few hundred bucks in to NIL to compete with endless funds in other places what has he accomplished ?
Some of you folks act like this just started. Albert Means (and his handlers) got paid $200k+ in 1999. Ten years later Scam got at least that much. This has been going on forever, NIL/collectives just gives everyone a shot at it.
Nike Founder Phil Knight Providing Alma Mater With ‘Unlimited’ NIL Funding in Hopes of Winning College Football Championship
Nike co-founder Phil Knight is reportedly willing to exhaust his vast resources to ensure the Oregon Ducks football team wins a national championship.www.mediaite.com
never heard of this website so hopefully it’s BS, but I doubt it
I totally agree college football isn't fair and I've said for years that college football is the least competitive major sport out there. And the primary thing that would make it more competitive, a reduction of scholarships, won't even be considered. 85 scholarships is way more scholarships than is needed to field a football team. 85 is the same number teams had back when freshmen couldn't play or rarely ever played. Force 10 to 15 players off Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc's roster and make them go somewhere else and things in the P4 would get more competitively very quickly.
If the NFL can make 53 work for 16 games, colleges sure as hell make 65 work for 15 or however many it takes.
An NFL roster is what, 55? Over time CFB needs to be whittled down to 75 or 70. To keep teams from skirting the rules with walk-ons, any player who players over 4 plays per game would count toward a roster spot.
It may sound naïve, but you have to sell athletes on something other than just money to make them want to be a part of your athletic program. You won't reach all of them because some are just after money. It's a crapshoot, but you must start working with something about your school.
It'll get reined in eventually. Just because you have to pay something for name and likeness doesn't mean it has to be the wild west out there. Tying payment to on field performance and putting a delay on transfers (transfer and don't play, make less than if you stayed and played), and it will clean all this up.
How has it ruined college sports? There's more parity than ever. We aren't losing bunch of players to the portal other than womens sports. All this money was paid under the table the last century, but now you can see it it pisses you off? Once schools run NIL, it'll get even better.
The reduced Roster would fix a lot of things. But the University Presidents are going to have to come together to get a block vote to fix it.
If the 115 or so Presidents who never sniff a football championship would present that block, would not matter what the 15-20 top programs want. The fight would be between the Conference Commissioners of the SEC, Big 10, ACC and Big 12 and their own member presidents. So you would have 10-11 SEC presidents voting against 5-6 of their brethren to level the playing field by attrition, paring down the Roster of a 3 year period:
2026- 80 schollies for football, 15 for basketball and 16 for baseball.
2027- 75 for football, 15 for men's basketball, 18 for baseball, 4 added to Women's athletics.
2028- 70 for football, 15 for men's basketball, 20 for baseball, 7 added to women's athletics.
I would not go below 70 for college football though because of the injury issues.
32 defensive players
32 offensive players
2 punters
2 place kickers
2 deep snappers
There are 32 5 star football players every year.
of the 32 in 2023, only 2 became starters. 4 never played. 8 played less than 100 snaps.
From year to year.
There are between 75-90 4 star players.
There are 134 FBS programs. Nearly all 4 & 5 star players go to the Top 30 teams based on Recruit Rankings. There are school Presidents who can fix this if they want to.
of the 32 in 2023, only 2 became starters. 4 never played. 8 played less than 100 snaps.
From year to year.
There are between 75-90 4 star players.
There are 134 FBS programs. Nearly all 4 & 5 star players go to the Top 30 teams based on Recruit Rankings. There are school Presidents who can fix this if they want to.
Which will just bring us full circle right back to under the table extra payments like it is from the 70s until recently
Sorry Hugh, I posted the same thing before reading your comment, but it is absolutely true
I'm genuinely curious how university presidents have the power to fix this. Not being a smartass. Fix it how??
I don’t think Univ presidents can or will fix anything. the board of reagents will just look for ways to get the most revenue and the television networks dictate everything because they pay out the revenue. ESPN and the various networks have essentially replaced the ncaa governing body.
as GOAT mentioned, it’s a made for television product now.
There are fans who can fix it all. But I’m one of the problem children that can’t quit college football so I will always be a scab when the great college football fan strike happens
Selmon is just treading water here at MSU. As soon as the Oklahoma AD job comes open...........he gone!
Sorry if I'm off track cuz I just skipped all the posts.
But could someone splain to me why we can't have salary caps and contracts that don't allow nearly as much switching teams every year?Salary caps have improved professional sports big time. Being richer than everybody else no longer translates into automatic wins / ships. The portal is damaging the game. Not fair to the school, program, coaches or fans. If these college players like the big boy money there gonna need to learn loyalty, honesty and responsibility.
But could someone splain to me why we can't have salary caps and contracts that don't allow nearly as much switching teams every year?Salary caps have improved professional sports big time. Being richer than everybody else no longer translates into automatic wins / ships. The portal is damaging the game. Not fair to the school, program, coaches or fans. If these college players like the big boy money there gonna need to learn loyalty, honesty and responsibility.
You lost me at coaches, school, and fans. Like the fans who continually **** on players like Rogers and Tolu? Or maybe the AD’s like Trev Alberts who leave their alma mater. Maybe you mean the loyal coaches like Jimmy Schloss that berate a reporter over the audacity to suggest that he may be leaving his school for their hated rival.
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