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Midnighter

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They should start Allar - this kid is clearly holding the program back. Clearly, all other Big Ten schools were not playing this week.

Could make the case Stroud had as good or better a game against Iowa (20/30, 268 yards, 4 TDs) as their pass defense is ranked slightly higher (11) than Minnesota's (15).....

I mean, that's what people want when they start threads like this, right??

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psuro

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Clifford article....

 
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Could make the case Stroud had as good or better a game against Iowa (20/30, 268 yards, 4 TDs) as their pass defense is ranked slightly higher (11) than Minnesota's (15).....

I mean, that's what people want when they start threads like this, right??

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To give the appearance of being impartial, the B1G gave it to Clifford this week because next weeks OPW has already been decided. :)
 

PSUriseANDfire

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Happy for him. He never deserved the booing as he can't help that the staff believes he is the best guy to win at the moment. I also wonder why our superstud freshman can't be trusted to do what many true freshman do nowadays.

Regardless... after the slow start he actually appeared to be more comfortable in the pocket and surveying the field. He continues playing like that we will have a nice ending to the year.

Well deserved.
 

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Well in Clifford’s defense our playcalling and scheming has left a lot to be desired, not only this year but throughout his entire career.

While better Sat, it’s still awfully vanilla compared to 90% of other Div 1 teams.

And our receivers have dropped more than their share of catchable balls over the first half of the season…..nice that that changed vs Minny.

BUT

I posted during the first half on Sat that both QBs could easily run and pick up decent yardage. Minny’s QB ended up 7 carries for 45 yds…it seems as though Clifford was told not to run: 0 carries for 0 yds. I think a repeat of his UMich run was there all day.
 

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Could make the case Stroud had as good or better a game against Iowa (20/30, 268 yards, 4 TDs) as their pass defense is ranked slightly higher (11) than Minnesota's (15).....

I mean, that's what people want when they start threads like this, right??

Eyes Whatever GIF by EL DUSTY
Watched that game and Stroud was pretty pedestrian in the first half (yes, iowa had something to do with that... and it looked the entire osu team was still asleep). So I'm going Sean for the win!
 

My Master

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Well, I don’t think many will dispute the reality of Penn State having zero chance against OSU this Saturday if Clifford doesn’t have a great game.
Not zero. I'd put their chances at less than 10%.
 

NB4PSU

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Well in Clifford’s defense our playcalling and scheming has left a lot to be desired, not only this year but throughout his entire career.

While better Sat, it’s still awfully vanilla compared to 90% of other Div 1 teams.

And our receivers have dropped more than their share of catchable balls over the first half of the season…..nice that that changed vs Minny.

BUT

I posted during the first half on Sat that both QBs could easily run and pick up decent yardage. Minny’s QB ended up 7 carries for 45 yds…it seems as though Clifford was told not to run: 0 carries for 0 yds. I think a repeat of his UMich run was there all day.
You think it was to protect him from injury (with osu on the horizon).... to hope that osu doesn't prepare for him to run because he didn't run vs minny... or... after the big run vs michigan he never seemed quite the same (maybe gassed or his legs cramped up?).... i'm leaning toward reason 1 but it was obvious he was not supposed to run vs Minny.

BTW, this is usually about the time we start forecasting that our plain vanilla schemes have been used to lure osu into a false sense of security... but come Saturday the REAL offense will be unveilled and take the CFB world by storm. I keep waiting for it to actually happen.... like charlie brown and lucy with with the kicking thing lol.
 

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You think it was to protect him from injury (with osu on the horizon).... to hope that osu doesn't prepare for him to run because he didn't run vs minny... or... after the big run vs michigan he never seemed quite the same (maybe gassed or his legs cramped up?).... i'm leaning toward reason 1 but it was obvious he was not supposed to run vs Minny.

BTW, this is usually about the time we start forecasting that our plain vanilla schemes have been used to lure osu into a false sense of security... but come Saturday the REAL offense will be unveilled and take the CFB world by storm. I keep waiting for it to actually happen.... like charlie brown and lucy with with the kicking thing lol.
I think this is the reason he did not run. starts at 3:40 mark

 
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I assume that there were dozens of recruits and families at the White out. I wonder what they thought when the fans booed Cliff?
My perspective from sitting in section EB is it is mostly the student’s booing . It may be that most are younger than Cliff and Allar’s their boy. Who knows. Still bad look and it is a good question.
 

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To give the appearance of being impartial, the B1G gave it to Clifford this week because next weeks OPW has already been decided. :)
Probably not far from the truth if OSU wins. Media perception wise, the Big two little eight has changed to the Big two "little twelve".
 

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I assume that there were dozens of recruits and families at the White out. I wonder what they thought when the fans booed Cliff?
That they expect a 30-year old 9-year starting senior to not stink up the place? Sean did well after initially struggling mightily. Doesn't change my view that Allar should have been starting early on in the year, with Clifford not seeing the field again ... but now that we're this far into it, we need to live or die with Clifford ... and I'm happy he came through this weekend.
 

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That they expect a 30-year old 9-year starting senior to not stink up the place? Sean did well after initially struggling mightily. Doesn't change my view that Allar should have been starting early on in the year, with Clifford not seeing the field again ... but now that we're this far into it, we need to live or die with Clifford ... and I'm happy he came through this weekend.
You’re entitled to your view, but unless you’re at every practice, in every meeting room, weight room, film room, training table, etc… I’d rather trust the decision to those who are there. There’s a reason Cliff is the starter and I trust CJF to play those who give us the best shot at winning. 🤷‍♂️
 

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That they expect a 30-year old 9-year starting senior to not stink up the place? Sean did well after initially struggling mightily. Doesn't change my view that Allar should have been starting early on in the year, with Clifford not seeing the field again ... but now that we're this far into it, we need to live or die with Clifford ... and I'm happy he came through this weekend.
throwing a season away to build for next year isn't much of a strategy
 

mmp121

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If I'm not mistaken, this is the 2nd time Clifford has been honored as Offensive Player of the week in 2022. Thought the other time it may have been shared.
 
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