This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

and also, this info will show you how DC's are shutting it down...

Top Scoring Offenses of 2007 that run the Spread :

Kansas- #2
Florida- #3
Oklahoma- #5 (I and Spread mix)
TTech- #7
Mizzou- #8
West Va- #9
LSU- #11 (I and Spread mix)
Oregon- #12
UPig- #13 (I and Spread mix)
Kentucky- #15
Cincinnati- #16

So, Crooms...11 of the top 16 in the country from BCS conferences are the top scoring teams and run the Spread....and DC's are figuring it out? Their catching up? What in the 17'ing hell does it mean when you finish 113th? 109th?

I dont think you can call it a "fad" when schools like Auburn are switching to it so they can get better. The guy bases his article on one game...what about OU giving up 34 points to TTech just a couple of weeks before? What did they have figured out on them? Dodd is wrong about this and so are the coaches in the article...Hell, you obviously get better against something the more the play against it, but saying it is going to be obsolete is just plain stupid when 70% of the best offenses are doing it...

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

and also, this info will show you how DC's are shutting it down...

Top Scoring Offenses of 2007 that run the Spread :

Kansas- #2
Florida- #3
Oklahoma- #5 (I and Spread mix)
TTech- #7
Mizzou- #8
West Va- #9
LSU- #11 (I and Spread mix)
Oregon- #12
UPig- #13 (I and Spread mix)
Kentucky- #15
Cincinnati- #16

So, Crooms...11 of the top 16 in the country from BCS conferences are the top scoring teams and run the Spread....and DC's are figuring it out? Their catching up? What in the 17'ing hell does it mean when you finish 113th? 109th?

I dont think you can call it a "fad" when schools like Auburn are switching to it so they can get better. The guy bases his article on one game...what about OU giving up 34 points to TTech just a couple of weeks before? What did they have figured out on them? Dodd is wrong about this and so are the coaches in the article...Hell, you obviously get better against something the more the play against it, but saying it is going to be obsolete is just plain stupid when 70% of the best offenses are doing it...

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

and also, this info will show you how DC's are shutting it down...

Top Scoring Offenses of 2007 that run the Spread :

Kansas- #2
Florida- #3
Oklahoma- #5 (I and Spread mix)
TTech- #7
Mizzou- #8
West Va- #9
LSU- #11 (I and Spread mix)
Oregon- #12
UPig- #13 (I and Spread mix)
Kentucky- #15
Cincinnati- #16

So, Crooms...11 of the top 16 in the country from BCS conferences are the top scoring teams and run the Spread....and DC's are figuring it out? Their catching up? What in the 17'ing hell does it mean when you finish 113th? 109th?

I dont think you can call it a "fad" when schools like Auburn are switching to it so they can get better. The guy bases his article on one game...what about OU giving up 34 points to TTech just a couple of weeks before? What did they have figured out on them? Dodd is wrong about this and so are the coaches in the article...Hell, you obviously get better against something the more the play against it, but saying it is going to be obsolete is just plain stupid when 70% of the best offenses are doing it...

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

and also, this info will show you how DC's are shutting it down...

Top Scoring Offenses of 2007 that run the Spread :

Kansas- #2
Florida- #3
Oklahoma- #5 (I and Spread mix)
TTech- #7
Mizzou- #8
West Va- #9
LSU- #11 (I and Spread mix)
Oregon- #12
UPig- #13 (I and Spread mix)
Kentucky- #15
Cincinnati- #16

So, Crooms...11 of the top 16 in the country from BCS conferences are the top scoring teams and run the Spread....and DC's are figuring it out? Their catching up? What in the 17'ing hell does it mean when you finish 113th? 109th?

I dont think you can call it a "fad" when schools like Auburn are switching to it so they can get better. The guy bases his article on one game...what about OU giving up 34 points to TTech just a couple of weeks before? What did they have figured out on them? Dodd is wrong about this and so are the coaches in the article...Hell, you obviously get better against something the more the play against it, but saying it is going to be obsolete is just plain stupid when 70% of the best offenses are doing it...

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

and also, this info will show you how DC's are shutting it down...

Top Scoring Offenses of 2007 that run the Spread :

Kansas- #2
Florida- #3
Oklahoma- #5 (I and Spread mix)
TTech- #7
Mizzou- #8
West Va- #9
LSU- #11 (I and Spread mix)
Oregon- #12
UPig- #13 (I and Spread mix)
Kentucky- #15
Cincinnati- #16

So, Crooms...11 of the top 16 in the country from BCS conferences are the top scoring teams and run the Spread....and DC's are figuring it out? Their catching up? What in the 17'ing hell does it mean when you finish 113th? 109th?

I dont think you can call it a "fad" when schools like Auburn are switching to it so they can get better. The guy bases his article on one game...what about OU giving up 34 points to TTech just a couple of weeks before? What did they have figured out on them? Dodd is wrong about this and so are the coaches in the article...Hell, you obviously get better against something the more the play against it, but saying it is going to be obsolete is just plain stupid when 70% of the best offenses are doing it...

 

[pete1973]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

I don't know about most of those teams you quoted , but LSU, Kentucky, and Ark do not run the spread! Just because you run some plays out of the shotgun, does'nt mean you are running the FAD spread! In 2 or 3 years the true spread will go the way of the option, in fact, most teams already do not run a true spread which is, as I've said before, just an updated single wing option! Defenses will easily assimilate the Spread and it will go the same way as the single wing and the option!

 

[ArrowDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

....is an offense that consistently produces, regardless of the scheme. That's the real reason why I've bitched and moaned so much over the years about our offense at MSU. If we could call 50 runs up the gut every game and do it very effectively in the SEC, then by God do it! Of course, we all know that's not reality.

We've been running the same offense for four years and the results speak for themselves. The national rankings/statistics don't lie. We have one of the worst 10 to 20 offenses in America every year. Now while I completely agree with anyone who says you can't win first without a solid defense, what you can't and SHOULDN'T ever depend on is for your defense to be able to carry the bulk of the load year after year. You can hope and expect them to be "good" every year, but they're not going to produce a high rate of turnovers or points off turnovers on a consistent basis(over a span of years) like our defense did in 2007. That's why you MUST balance things out with a solid offense. Just as balance is required from the run and pass for an offense to work, balance is also required on a team level from both the offense and defense to have a successful PROGRAM. You can field 10 consecutive teams with bad offense, and statistically you're going to always pluck a winning season or two out of those 10. But are we satisfied with that at MSU? Is it okay to only have a couple or so winning seasons every decade? We all have to decide. If we want more, then we're going to have to wake up and find a way to put a much better offense on the field from year to year. Otherwise, our patience will be tested while waiting for the next fluke winning season to happen.

 

[cowbell9]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

nm

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

Upig comes the closest.(last year, with McPhaden, what now).

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

Thus we now have a 224 lb freshmens DE with SPEED!

 

[HD6]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

and if you don't think LSU and Kentucky run spread offenses, then officially your opinion is invalid.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

.

 

[HD6]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

A whale's ******.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

I don't think you can call Arkansas's offense last year a spread offense. What do the other teams listed have in common? A very good QB. Oklahoma's offense wasn't too good when they had that backup WR running the show. Plug in Mike Henig or the true freshman version of Wes Caroll and none of those offenses are successful. </p>

AU will be a good litmus test for the spread in the SEC? Don't tell me UF because they won the national title with a traditional style offense. And with the talent they had last year and this year any offense would be explosive.</p>

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

I have a different opinion, so what?

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

you're a moron...end of story

 

[HD6]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

so I don't know what to tell you. Watch a Kentucky or LSU game and watch the formations, and tell me they don't run the spread.

 

[bonedaddy401]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

You need to figure out what the definition of a spread is before you go praising it. As usual you have brought another uniformed, wrong and just plain asinine post to everyone's attention.

You want us to run the spread? Find me 11 athletes that can run it in Mississippi. You can't. I don't care if you coached bush league academy ball, your are still wrong.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

very little resemblance to them.... uncle, otherwise I don't give a crap. Anyway, the defenses always catch up.

 

[BigMotherTucker]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

spead option. Thats why it looks different from LSU and KY.

 

[HD6]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

it would be a lot easier to find another Pat White than it would be to find a Joe Montana in Mississippi.

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

"I don't think you can call Arkansas's offense last year a spread offense."

So when they put McFadden in at QB, spread the field, and let him hand-off, keep it, or throw a pass...what would you call it? Hell, what was the difference in the Wild Hog and what WV does? McFadden probably throws it as well as White does...They ran a combination of the I and Spread, which is probably the best thing you can do offensively in college football right now.

"Plug in Mike Henig or the true freshman version of Wes Caroll and none of those offenses are successful."

Who's fault is that? Question for ya- Do you think it would have been easier to recruit a Spread QB to MSU or a West Coast QB the last 4 years? It didnt have to be this way...

"Don't tell me UF because they won the national title with a traditional style offense."

We have a traditional offense. I didnt see us doing the things they did out of the shot-gun or bring a Tebow-type guy in for his special series of plays...I'm gonna have to disagree with you about Fla too

 

[HD6]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

that being, you don't know jack **** about football. There are dozens of variations of spread. WV is just one of them. Any offense were the base formations are 3 wide, shotgun, things like that are spread offenses.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

.

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

whats wrong or uninformed in my post? Enlighten me please

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

With the athletes we have in Mississippi a spread or spread option would be unreal.

 

[mstatefanatic]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

It is the way you line up. I coach it and we run wing t stuff with several passing concepts. And you know why we run it? Because its one of THE hardest offenses to defend. Ask any coach. It's way easier to defend a well run I formation than it is to defend someone who can really run stuff out of a spread set.

 

[BriantheDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

We are not that lucky.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

I suspect I've played more football than you've thought of, but who knows. You are all powerfull!

 

[Todd4State]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

defined the variations of the spread very well:

You have the Texas Tech/Mike Leach version- I call it the run and shoot. I hope SMU plays Texas Tech in coming years- that game is going to take seven hours to play.

You have the Florida/Urban Meyer version- SI called it the single wing-like variation.

Then you have the West Virginia/Rich Rodriguez version- the spread option- what I always think of when someone says "spread offense".

Those are the "gold standard versions" but everyone that runs the spread has a little bit of their own mark on it.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

 

[HD6]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

"played more football" have to do with anything?

I think it's funny you think Kentucky, which had 5 receivers over 45 catches for the year, runs some traditional style offense.

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

it is still morphing into different branches. There are so many 17'ing things you can do out of it. And also why it is so successful. You can throw the hell out of the ball with it, using WC and Run and Shoot routes....you can run the Spread option using Wishbone and Veer concepts...You can add Wing-T concepts...You can use the QB as the TB and run I plays out of it.

Different teams have gone to this and are adapting it to their philosophy while at the same time adapting it to their personnel. Thats why the Spread teams are the best offenses in football...

 

[Todd4State]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

back in the 70's during the heyday of the wishbone, I'm sure that the top offenses in the country were running that then- Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas.

All your point proves is that this is the heyday of the spread.

Again, I don't think that the spread will go away, but I do think that this is probably the height of it. In 10-15 years there will be something else.

 

[dawgatUSM]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

I've said since the spread began that it was just another wishbone or triple option style of offense that defenses will eventually figure out... then, they'll be screwed because they don't have a power running game to counteract the 200 pound defensive linemen and linebackers with 4.5 speed. Nothing will ever replace a power running game to set up the pass... but that's just my opinion

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

ha ha, lets move on.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

The fundamental nature of the spread offense involves spreading the field horizontally using 3, 4, and even 5-receiver sets, as well as wide splits between the offensive linemen. This opens up multiple vertical gaps for both the running and passing game to exploit, as the defense is forced to spread itself thin across the field to cover everyone.

 

[Coach34]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

People stopped running the Wishbone because of the lack of big plays due to having 3 backs in the backfield. The concepts of the Wishbone still work and always will. The formation had to morph into something else in order for the offense to continue to grow. Air Force still ran the Wishbone into this millenium, they just did it out of the double-slot formation...still wishbone plays and concepts- new formation..

The Spread is not one formation. It is not limited. People are still coming up with **** to run out of it. Its not going away and it wont slow down, the sky is the limit with what you can do with it.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

bring a Tebow-type guy in for his special series of plays...

Dang it. Why didn't we go out and get a Tebow type player? Silly Croom. I wish you were the coach.

So when we come out with Carroll in the shotgun and 4 WR's are we running the spread too? Because based on your definition any formation that spreads the field is a spread offense. Every offense in the country runs a version of the spread.

So when they put McFadden in at QB, spread the field, and let him hand-off, keep it, or throw a pass

We did that with Dixon a few times. Croom needs to recruit a McFadden type player. That will help.

Who's fault is that? Question for ya- Do you think it would have been easier to recruit a Spread QB to MSU or a West Coast QB the last 4 years?</p>

MS hasn't produced a D1 QB worth a crap since Jason Campbell. And besides Eli Manning, when is the last time MSU or OM has gone into another state and signed a top flight QB.

My point is still the same, no matter what type of offense you run, you have to have a big time QB for it to be effective. We haven't had one, thus we have had to rely on defense and the run game. We have one committed, but we don't have one on the roster. Yes, part of that is Croom's fault.

 

[Todd4State]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a &quot;fad&quot;..

disclaimer: I do NOT want us to run the wishbone, I just like old school football.

but I think a big reason why people went away from it was because teams were so run heavy that they would have trouble passing if they had to- which would be when they were behind. The other problem was QB development, and I think teams were losing big time recruits because big time QB prospects were going to places that didn't run the bone.