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[DowntownDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

...he adapts, and that is why he wins. It may not be good enough if he can't recruit any better, though.

 

[RebelBruiser]

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...that is Nutt's greatest strength, even greater than his motivational style. He adapts his offense to what he's got. I wish we could say the same about our coach.

I'm still withholding judgement on Nutt when it comes to adaptability. I'll say that I believe he's better than most as evidenced by a lot of the things he did with McPhadden and Jones. However, he hasn't been in a situation where he had a good throwing QB and a set of solid WRs. That's what he has this year, and though he likes his RBs, he has the personnel (on paper of course) that appears to be tailored toward throwing the ball more.

If we come out and throw a decent amount and put up points, I'll give him credit for adapting well to his personnel. That's why I think Croom would do good to hire a young up and coming OC who brings a lot of ideas to the table. His system isn't inherently bad. It just hasn't been run the right way to take advantage of the strengths of his personnel. If he'd bring in someone with a mind for offensive coaching, he'd be fine.

However, I don't see that happening, because he just seems to me like the "old dog" type at least when it comes to his offense.

 

[DowntownDawg]

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Yes, because any time I disagree with somebody on something, that automatically means I am right and the other person is wrong. Because their opinion differs from mine, I know more than them. If it were the same, they would be of equal knowledge.

"He who knows not and knows that he knows not is wise. He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool."

Good luck with life, brother. I'd hate to be your family.

 

[Coach34]

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"And you'll never live down your "Peaches and I know more about football than anybody else" post. That's one of the most ridiculous things anybody has ever posted on this board."

this thread has proven it to be fairly accurate...We do appreciate HD's contributions as well...

 

[DowntownDawg]

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...season there. In fact, had Stoerner not put the ball on the ground against UT, Mississippi would never have been represented in the SEC Championship game. They were strong that year.

And I don't think Croom will do that either. No use pining away about it. Our best hope is that recruiting continues to skyrocket and we are actually able to get some personnel that will put us over the top in this retarded system.

 

[saddawg]

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Last damn thing I'm gonna say about it.

I don't know what you do for a living, but I do know it's not football coach.

I have coached. Coach34 has been a head coach before. There are, I'm sure more on here that have too.

Would you argue with a doctor, mechanic, lawyer, accountant, or whatever, if you were not one, about their job? No.

(Well, YOU might?)

Although I don't coach anymore, 2 of my best friends are coaches too. So all we do is talk football.

So yeah, I enjoy talking football with people that have actually have broken down film, called plays ect. I don't always agree with some of their ideas, but I respect them, just like anybody would respect one of their professional peer's opinion.

If I tried to tell my cousin the doctor I thought he was wrong in his surgical procedures, do you think he would respect my opinion?

He'd tell me to shut the hell up. As he should.

Just say for 17 sake, say Croom called us up today and said "Sad and Chewy , I'm in a hell of a mess. I just lost 2 coaches. I need you guys to help out at practice today. I need one to work with the QBs and one to work with the DBs."

I would say " Which ever, doesn't matter to me. What time you need me?" And I could go do it.

What would your answer be?

Probably the same as mine if my cousin asked me to assist on a gall bladder removal.

I've said it before, every ******* in America thinks they are experts on 3 things

Screwing, Football, and cooking on the grill.

 

[Eureka Dog]

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first "took off" as the lastest and greatest offense.

 

[DowntownDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

...so you basically agree with those on GP who say "How many college games have you coached?" "How many games have you played in?"

Check out Rule 7.

This is a message board. We're all "qualified" to discuss sports here. And for the record, my opinion is that unless you have ever coached in the SEC you only have slightly more experience on this topic than any of the rest of us do. Teaching the 6 year old Sunday School doesn't make you ordained.

I do appreciate that you have the ability to go help out with practice from time to time. That's great. But, and I'm sure you know this, your opinion doesn't count anymore than anybody else's to anybody but you.

To be honest, I find some of the stuff you post on the subject enlightening. I am sure that I could learn a lot about the game from you. But your observations are not inherently greater than my observations just because you coached on a different level. And I'll leave it at that.

Finally, I have a friend who coached for a long time and won state championships. He is also a big State fan. His opinion is just the opposite of yours. He doesn't believe that we would succeed with the spread because of the reasons that I have listed countless times. He believes we suck offensively because we don't have very good players on that side of the ball. Is he wrong? Do you know more about it than him?

 

[saddawg]

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For the record I don't think the spread is the end all. I just wish we would look at it or anything else to score. The refusal to try ANYTHING is what is driving me nuts. I really don't give a ****. Just be multiple. If something ain't working, don't just keep doing it. I bet your friend would agree with that.

 

[Todd4State]

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I do work in a hospital, and I can tell you that people do in fact ask questions about things that we do everyday- including doctor's about their surgery's. Heck, have you missed the Hacksaw Linton posts on here?

One thing that I have learned with working with people is that by listening to them, a lot of times you can figure out what's wrong with them and help.

The one thing that you do not want to do is fall into the trap of thinking that you know everything and throw out whatever the patient says, because odds are you won't help them, and you will come off as an *******.

Same thing here- just because you aren't an expert doesn't mean that you don't know anything. And when you do come out and say that you know more than others, you come across as an *******.

But I'm glad that you haven't had to go to the doctor.

Edit to say that if I treated a patient like you are suggesting in your post I could have been written up at the very least and possibly even fired.

 

[DowntownDawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

yuku

 

[Columbus Dawg]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

The refusal to try ANYTHING is what is driving me nuts.

We tried Dixon at QB in the Wild Hog formation. We ran some option. We ran a ton of shotgun. We have used multiple formations. And we did all of this with a true freshman under center. And oh, by the way, we went 8-5 and won a bowl game. I think it's pretty ridiculous that you would say we aren't trying different things. According to David Murray, we will see many new formations this year that we weren't capable of running in the past. But given our personnel, a grind it out game with Dixon getting 25 carries is still our best formula to actually try to win the game.

 

[RebelBruiser]

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Back to the spread, one thing I'll say about it is that while it may be a fad that will go away, it has made a lot more progress than people thought it would originally.

When you first saw it, people thought it was just a gimmick that would never work at a major football program. Well, now schools like Florida, West Virginia, LSU, Oregon, Texas, and Oklahoma are running variations of the spread as their primary offenses and going to BCS bowls, and you have teams like Auburn and Arkansas that are going to be running spread style offenses. That alone shows that it's a viable offensive system that can work even at the major programs.

It's not a be all end all solution, but most of the best offensive teams in the country at least incorporate some of its principles as part of their offensive package.

I think like most offenses, it will see its heyday and then fade somewhat, being replaced by a new fad, but I don't think that spread offense principles will ever completely die.

 

[hatfieldms]

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Yeah, they threw like **** against us last year, didn't they?

Nutt will do what it takes to score.

And we threw great against them last year. What's your point?

 

[Brutius]

This one is for Croom and others who say the Spread is a "fad"..

The football "experts" only use stats when they benefit their argument and ignore others. Arkansas passed for 223 yards against us., a whopping 60 yards above their season average. I would say something about how MSU passed that game for 421 yards, but I'm sure they have some sort of excuse (we were playing from behind, Dan Marino was calling the offensive plays from his house at Old Waverly etc.).

Just let them live in their little la-la land where they bump peters with each other and high five over their football expertise. Meanwhile, many of us will just sit here and be happy with another winning record, especially knowing that saddawg and coach34 are pissed that we aren't 3-9.

Your friend,
Brutius

 

[SnakePlissken]

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Any offense were the base formations are 3 wide, shotgun, things like that are spread offenses.

I'm not arguing that we run the spread but I have seen us line up 3 & 4 wide, with the QB in the shotgun, numerous times in the last 3-4 years. A lot of the time we usually have Dixon or Ducree as the lone back, lined up beside the QB, and use them to pick up the blitzes, run draws, screens, etc.