WOW! #2 transfer WR, #6 overall transfer. Hate it for those guys...
I saw it on their 247 board.
I saw it on their 247 board.
Top UNC WR Tez Walker Ineligible
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Why?WOW! #2 transfer WR, #6 overall transfer. Hate it for those guys...
I saw it on their 247 board.
Can't figure out why it's infuriating...this is his 3rd transfer.
Yeah, I thought there'd be more to it. For whatever the reasons are, he's transferred a bunch. If you look at the case individually, there are good reasons for each transfer, but you can't just allow unlimited transfers.
Mark my words, he'll be playing in the first game. Plenty of time for the NCAA to reverse course. We all know they will bend over backwards for UNC.
It's infuriating cause they're a bunch of pussies and didn't get their way.
IDK, seems pretty cut and dry. Maybe if this were his 2nd transfer they would be lenient. But #3? Doubtful.
Trump treatment = guilty
or Hunter Biden treatment = plea deal
That's the dual justice system question!
DOJ or NCAA, it's about the same kind of system and Tar Heels are known for receiving the Biden treatment
or Hunter Biden treatment = plea deal
That's the dual justice system question!
DOJ or NCAA, it's about the same kind of system and Tar Heels are known for receiving the Biden treatment
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I agree it seems straightforward. It's UNC, though. Granted, it's UNC football which doesn't have nearly as much pull as UNC basketball, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them reverse course. They'd have to get pretty creative with their justification for granting him immediate eligibility.
It’s the UNC qb that worries me. Saw him play several times and was impressed. We’ve got to bring pressure on him and have excellent pass coverage. Don’t know about their ol and what kind of protection Maye will get but we’ve got to get after him.
Their OL is crap. Downs was by far their biggest receiving threat last year, and he's gone. Walker was to be the answer to that loss. Mayes is talented. But he really struggled his last 4 games last year. Maybe DCs just figured him out. Maybe he just feasted on lesser opponents earlier in the year. We will find out, but lack of receiving options could impact Mayes tremendously.
I bet they get it. Not because it's against us (just our luck), but it's UNC, and it makes a good story.
It seems the "shock" with the Walker ruling is that while he has been at 3 previous programs, he only actually played for one. He signed with ETSU but was gray shirted after an ACL injury. So he sat out and transferred to NC Central, but the season was canceled due to covid. Then he transferred to Kent State where he actually played. So the argument from UNC is that he's only played for one program.
Even so, there was nothing that forced him to transfer from ETSU to NC Central. He didn't play b/c he was injured. And there was nothing that forced him to transfer from NC Central.
Agreed. My "good story" comment is that you can play the angle of writing off one transfer and blame covid, then sprinkle in a little injury talk, and get a couple online news agencies to write a sad article. Then the NCAA can be the nice guy, and give him a waiver.
That being said, I find this sort of thing annoying. Things like this should be handled long before now.
From the NCAA's perspective, I can imagine they look at this situation as setting a precedent. If they did what you describe and what UNC wants, by explaining away the previous transfers, you're basically making transfers a total free-for-all. You'd be able to explain away almost any transfer.
But, yeah, you can really play up the emotional redemption aspect of it to make a good story out of it. I can see him being granted eligibility at the 11th hour, the day before our game. Then he'll come out and have a monster game, leading UNC to the win.
Agree. "Covid hit so he transferred". That's not a valid reason. He already got an extra year of eligibility. Want a free transfer to go along with it?? Sheesh.
Mack was playing it up as though the kid had really been through the wringer. I was expecting to read some heart-wrenching ordeal of hardship and overcoming extreme adversity. Turns out it was a torn ACL (a fairly common injury in football) and the lost covid season which impacted thousands of players.
I know! Don't forget he's got an elderly grandmother, something that is quite unique.
Brown is putting the full court press on. Now it's a "mental health" problem for Walker.
“So when we look at what transfer rules are for and we look at the best for mental health, there’s absolutely no doubt that this is a mental health issue for Tez because it’s putting way too much pressure on him, and that’s a major talking point for Charlie Baker, the new NCAA director, which I’m hearing great things about.”
Guess we'll be seeing a lot of the "insanity defense" for transfers.
Queue up the tv interview with Walker's grandmother. This ain't Mack's first rodeo.
He said being close to his grandmother is everything. Ok, how does you having eligibility this year change that? You're still close to her. Mission accomplished. IF that's the most important thing, then you've accomplished it.
But, now, every article is "NCAA denies Tez Walker immediate eligibility to play near his ailing grandmother."
Yeah, he's gonna granted eligibility.
Rules, what rules!
We only follow the rules when it suits us and for the right teams.
Sounds a lot like the country in general, as we speak.
We only follow the rules when it suits us and for the right teams.
Sounds a lot like the country in general, as we speak.
In the hospital or wheelchair for full impact of course.
Rules, what rules!
We only follow the rules when it suits us and for the right teams.
Sounds a lot like the country in general, as we speak.
Even if you accept that Walker transferred to be close to his ailing grandmother and accept that as fitting into the NCAA's "mental health" exception, you can't explain away the previous 2 transfers.
I disagree. I don't subscribe to the theory of once a program has you, they have you forever. I'm all for players hanging in there and seeing a situation through. However, this seems like an under-recruited kid, that played his way into better opportunities. No one should begrudge a kid for that. A gray-shirt at a small FCS that was probably one of his few offers. A better FCS program comes along and they can't play because of COVID. So, you are then faced with the choice of missing two years of football or going somewhere where you can play. Dude finally gets a D-1 offer and balls out and finally gets the flagship university to see him and appreciate his talent. You guys know you would mad as hell if that was a South Carolina native with the same story trying to get into school here. I know it's North Carolina and any good player off their roster helps us, but as a parent I understand this one even if the mother is not that sick. See Jalen Brooks for a similar story and they let Brooks play after transferring twice. He never had to sit out a year.
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None of what you said makes sense. Sure things change, which is why the NCAA now allows one free transfer. The kid had no particular reason for transferring from ETSU. He wasn't benched. He was injured. He had no particular reason to transfer from NC Central. His transfer to UNC make sense, but that's 2 transfers too late.
You get one transfer for free. Maybe you can explain away another one due to extreme circumstances. But, I mean, come on, 3? There has to be a limit. If they let this kid have immediate eligibility, they are basically waving the white flag and saying it's a free-for-all.
It doesn't? I think you need to read up on Jalen Brooks before you make value judgments. Brooks started at Wingate, transferred to Tarleton State and transferred here. He never had to sit out. He got his waiver. Do you have a problem with that? If you don't, you are being hypocritical.
As suggested earlier in the thread, rules are now simply guidelines and it's pretty clear the path we are headed down. Now with NIL, we are openly paying players (as if they weren't already behind the scenes), transfers are rampant making rosters a crap shoot from one year to the next and conference realignments are also chasing the $$$$$. Next thing you know we'll have college free agency and mid-season transfers for those teams chasing championships! College football is now truly an out of control money game and the real sport we are passionate about will become history. IMHO, the only thing in question is the timeframe.
Mid season transfers seems unthinkable to me. But the way we're going, I wouldn't be surprised.
TSU was FCS. Hard to keep up with all the transfer rules, but going from FCS to FBS was always allowed to play immediately, right?
Well Brooks is before the NCAA started more heavily cracking down on it. If it were being enforced at the time, then so be it. I would be fine with it being held to the rules if that was the standard, which the NCAA is making that moving forward.
The part that falls apart from @adcoop in here is the transferring because of covid. He transferred after covid. He missed the 2020 season while at UNC -Central It wasn't like he transferred so he could play that year. He didn't need to transfer to Kent State at that point. That was a choice in 2021 (AFTER COVID while UNC-Central was playing again). Then add on that he wanted to play near his grandmother so he transferred to UNC... Well guess what UNC - Central is 5 minutes closer to his high school of West Charlotte than UNC - Chapel Hill... So why, again did he transfer away from UNC-Central in the first place, to Kent State which is 7 hours away? Kid is trying to play the system. Good for him for working his way up, but the NCAA has opened options to keep kids from being locked down, but it's not designed to be a free agent form of the minor leagues.
Also, consider what a Gray-shirt means. It's a delayed scholarship offer. He was never on the team at East Tennessee State. So, the NCAA is going to let these quarterbacks transfer to 3-4 schools because they didn't get first string, but deny this kid and count a transfer for a school that he didn't enroll. If the rules make sense, I am all for them. However, if they are arbitrary and result in all kinds of different outcomes, what's the point.
ETSU and North Carolina A&T are FCS. Further, the kids was a Gray-shirt offer at ETSU. He was like Tyreek Johnson. He was offered to enroll the next year. You going to count a transfer for a kid when he wasn't even in school, but CJ Daniels can transfer and his lose his starting QB position from a school in every Power 5 Conference. Make it make sense.
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There may be differences in the details, but adcoop highlights a good point.
If this was out WR, with the exact same story, we would probably feel differently.
If this was out WR, with the exact same story, we would probably feel differently.
Kent State is not FCS. That's where he transferred to UNC from.