Top UNC WR Tez Walker Ineligible

SSIGamecock

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Kent State is not FCS. That's where he transferred to UNC from.
ETSU and North Carolina A&T are FCS. Further, the kids was a Gray-shirt offer at ETSU. He was like Tyreek Johnson. He was offered to enroll the next year. You going to count a transfer for a kid when he wasn't even in school, but CJ Daniels can transfer and his lose his starting QB from a school in every Power 5 Conference. Make it make sense.
Yes, explain why he transferred for the 2021 season AWAY from Grandma? He was going to get to play at UNC Central in 2021, when he chose to transfer. Below is my reference for their 2021 season. He did not play in 2020. He did not transfer to Kent State before 2020 to play there. He didn't get there til 2021. That was his free transfer... and he chose to transfer AWAY from Grandma. Cry me a river.


SN - he did kick azz against UGA last year when Kent State hung with them for 2 quarters.
 

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Yes, explain why he transferred for the 2021 season AWAY from Grandma? He was going to get to play at UNC Central in 2021, when he chose to transfer. Below is my reference for their 2021 season. He did not play in 2020. He did not transfer to Kent State before 2020 to play there. He didn't get there til 2021. That was his free transfer... and he chose to transfer AWAY from Grandma. Cry me a river.


SN - he did kick azz against UGA last year when Kent State hung with them for 2 quarters.
I think that's part of the issue. It's not a believable story b/c he chose to transfer away to begin with. So what's the appeal?
 
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However, a Josh Belk transfer to be closer to his ailing grandmother when he was already going to a school 90 minutes away is okay? Like I said, I don't mind rules, but hypocrisy? I felt that Belk deal stunk all along and felt it wasn't going to work out for us. However, let's play the rule police when it applies to other programs.
 

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If you go by the NCAAs criteria, it’s cut and dry. No immediate eligibility.

Unfortunately, none of their criteria include “I regret my decision “.
 
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I think that's part of the issue. It's not a believable story b/c he chose to transfer away to begin with. So what's the appeal?
Exactly… and Adcoop just seems to think the reason he should play is because some people would be upset if it were us on the Sh.t end of the stick lol.

I, for one, am not mad when the rules are enforced against us, and expect them to be done equally across the board. Crazy I know.
 
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There may be differences in the details, but adcoop highlights a good point.

If this was out WR, with the exact same story, we would probably feel differently.
Well, of course. And UNC.fans would be saying what we’re saying right now.
 
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If you go by the NCAAs criteria, it’s cut and dry. No immediate eligibility.

Unfortunately, none of their criteria include “I regret my decision “.
However, you know that's not true. Quarterback JT Daniels is on his fourth program. Reason. He can't keep a starting job anywhere that he goes. Where's the hardship. 3 transfers sounds like more than one to me. This happens with QBs all the time. That's why I speak out on it. You either have rules that apply across the board or forget it. However, we have all this waiver non-sense which applies depending on who has the best lawyers or has in at the NCAA office. There is no cut and dried rules with NCAA at this time. That is why most people except the few Gamecock fans on this site says it stinks. All over the National Media.
 

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So, that makes it right?
A passionate response by one fan base or the other does not mean one or the other is correct. That’s why you look at the established criteria. His situation does not meet the criteria. It’s black and white. That doesn’t mean the NCAA won’t cave in because they probably will, but the first ruling is the correct one.
 
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So, that makes it right?
I don’t care if it’s right or not. We play UNC, not Rice. And this helps our chances of winning a very important game. I quit caring what the NCAA was doing when they suspended, then reinstated, $cam Newton before the SECCG. I suggest you do the same. Very little they do makes sense.
 

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if you think the portal’s been nuts up to this point, just wait to see what happens when the NCAA reverses course on this. It’s going to explode because then kids will basically be able to transfer unlimited times for any old reason they want.
 

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However, a Josh Belk transfer to be closer to his ailing grandmother when he was already going to a school 90 minutes away is okay? Like I said, I don't mind rules, but hypocrisy? I felt that Belk deal stunk all along and felt it wasn't going to work out for us. However, let's play the rule police when it applies to other programs.
Different scenario. Back then they would grant waivers bc they didn’t have the free transfer rule. And that was Bella only transfer. I’m pretty sure when they made that rule they didn’t retroactively apply it. So everyone had a free transfer. So JTD got the waiver from SoCal to UGA. His new free transfer to WVU. And I believe he transferred to Rice as a graduate transfer, which has always been immediate eligibility.
 
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A passionate response by one fan base or the other does not mean one or the other is correct. That’s why you look at the established criteria. His situation does not meet the criteria. It’s black and white. That doesn’t mean the NCAA won’t cave in because they probably will, but the first ruling is the correct one.
....and we will have a player (I promise you) that doesn't meet the criteria in less than a year. No crying about North Carolina and other schools having the NCAA in their pocket when that happens. You know how we Gamecock fans do. It's woe as me and everything is set up against us.
 

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WOW! #2 transfer WR, #6 overall transfer. Hate it for those guys...

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I saw it on their 247 board.
Marco Rubio is pressuring NCAA to reconsider similar ruling at FSU. If it works expect the same from UNC. This dude will play.
 

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The NCAA changed the 2 transfer rule on 1/11/23. Go on their website and see for yourself instead of relying on a partisan
hack like me
I have. They added criteria for waivers on 2nd transfers. Stop trusting everything Mac Brown says. He would have still had to have the waiver approved. Seeing as how he's on his 3rd transfer, and his reasoning seems a little shaky, it's likely that it would have been denied anyway. I does suck for the kid. I'm sure he was told all along the way by Brown and admin at UNC that everything would be fine. We have certainly had our share of last minute issues, so I can sympathize with it.
 

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lol, now the NC governor is appealing to the NCAA.

No way the NCAA can hold up under so much public pressure. Of course, nobody is highlighting that this is his THIRD transfer. It's all that he transferred to be close to his sick grandmother....who isn't too sick to come to games apparently.

How much public outcry do you think there would be if it were a USC player? Doubt the NCAA would have even read the eligibility request.

They will give in, of course, which will effectively give players carte blanche when it comes to transferring. Basically, you can transfer for any reason you want.
 
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lol, now the NC governor is appealing to the NCAA.

No way the NCAA can hold up under so much public pressure. Of course, nobody is highlighting that this is his THIRD transfer. It's all that he transferred to be close to his sick grandmother....who isn't too sick to come to games apparently.

How much public outcry do you think there would be if it were a USC player? Doubt the NCAA would have even read the eligibility request.

They will give in, of course, which will effectively give players carte blanche when it comes to transferring. Basically, you can transfer for any reason you want.
Yep...and it all boils down to this. Once again, the NCAA has created an impossible situation for themselves. One of the new criteria the came up with to approve waivers on 2nd transfers is "mental health". You really going to argue that a kid isn't suffering mentally?? Even if it's pretty evident he's not?? They just can't get out of their own way. Now we're going to have a huge increase in athletes with mental health issues.
 

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NCAA Under Fire After Denying Two Immediate Eligibility Waivers for Football Transfers (msn.com)
"The NCAA says that they're students, and that means that they should be treated like every other student, and they should have the ability to transfer when they want," Isenberg said.

They can transfer - they just can't play!

Whole lot of whining going on - they must be holding back on bringing out the momma's interview in various forms of sympathy garb as a last resort1
He also took a visit to Rutgers in Dec 2022. Seems like an odd thing to do if you’re trying desperately to get closer to an ailing grandma in NC.
 

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And we all know the NCAA enforces rules equally for all schools! :D

I'm sure they will eventually cave and grant Walker eligibility, but there is absolutely nothing at all unique or heart-wrenching about his story. His story is a common one in the portal era Tons of guys out there are on their 3rd or 4th school for any number of reasons, including situations not within their control.

The NCAA just has to decide if they are going to allow free, open and unlimited transfers without restraint.
 

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NCAA rules enforcement
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Bend me shape me, anyway you want me - but I am privileged so it's all right
 

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IDK, seems pretty cut and dry. Maybe if this were his 2nd transfer they would be lenient. But #3? Doubtful.
Kinda feel like he should have known this could be an issue and probably would be. Pressed his luck and lost if you ask me. Could have transferred to a smaller school nearby and his grandma could have seen him play.
 

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I think by them using the mental health angle will either back fire on them or be the type of narrative they need for the reversal. If he’s crying and dealing with a lot mentally, will playing football solve his mental health problems??
 

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I think by them using the mental health angle will either back fire on them or be the type of narrative they need for the reversal. If he’s crying and dealing with a lot mentally, will playing football solve his mental health problems??
Concussion might help 🤷‍♂️
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UNC has a record of avoiding NCAA penalties. Based on their record, they get treated different from every other school and will get their way again. NC governor Roy Cooper had no business writing the letter to the NCAA. He has a heck of lot important duties as governor than to get involved with an NCAA ruling.
 

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I disagree. I don't subscribe to the theory of once a program has you, they have you forever. I'm all for players hanging in there and seeing a situation through. However, this seems like an under-recruited kid, that played his way into better opportunities. No one should begrudge a kid for that. A gray-shirt at a small FCS that was probably one of his few offers. A better FCS program comes along and they can't play because of COVID. So, you are then faced with the choice of missing two years of football or going somewhere where you can play. Dude finally gets a D-1 offer and balls out and finally gets the flagship university to see him and appreciate his talent. You guys know you would mad as hell if that was a South Carolina native with the same story trying to get into school here. I know it's North Carolina and any good player off their roster helps us, but as a parent I understand this one even if the mother is not that sick. See Jalen Brooks for a similar story and they let Brooks play after transferring twice. He never had to sit out a year.
Brooks started and played at Wingate. He transferred to Tarleton State in the spring but never played. When he transferred to us in the fall, he had to sit out 5 games.

The NCAA has played fast and loose on transfers for the past few years. Maybe they have decided to ratchet things down on the rules. I agree I would be pissed if this had happened to us but at some point the NCAA needs to make rules and stick with them. A 3rd transfer is a pretty clear cut call.
 

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but at some point the NCAA needs to make rules and stick with them. A 3rd transfer is a pretty clear cut call.

Bingo. Bottom line is that he has had 3 transfers. Nobody's arguing the transfer to UNC isn't legit (though I question the sick grandma narrative).

Folks are saying "Oh! He tore his ACL and never played at his first school!" But what does that have to do with transferring? You don't have to transfer b/c you got injured. Doesn't matter that the COVID season was canceled. The NCAA already gave everyone an extra year to offset that. His first 2 transfers were purely selfish, and I don't mean selfish in a bad way. But he just decided he didn't want to be where he was any longer and went somewhere else.

If the NCAA allow him immediate eligibility, they are basically signaling free, open and unlimited transfers. Every kid's gonna have a sob story about why it was necessary for him to transfer.

All eyes are on them for this decision. If they whether the public outcry, it will signal a firm stand on the one-time transfer. If they cave in (like they probably will), then open the floodgates.
 
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