Top UNC WR Tez Walker Ineligible

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Bingo. Bottom line is that he has had 3 transfers. Nobody's arguing the transfer to UNC isn't legit (though I question the sick grandma narrative).

Folks are saying "Oh! He tore his ACL and never played at his first school!" But what does that have to do with transferring? You don't have to transfer b/c you got injured. Doesn't matter that the COVID season was canceled. The NCAA already gave everyone an extra year to offset that. His first 2 transfers were purely selfish, and I don't mean selfish in a bad way. But he just decided he didn't want to be where he was any longer and went somewhere else.

If the NCAA allow him immediate eligibility, they are basically signaling free, open and unlimited transfers. Every kid's gonna have a sob story about why it was necessary for him to transfer.

All eyes are on them for this decision. If they whether the public outcry, it will signal a firm stand on the one-time transfer. If they cave in (like they probably will), then open the floodgates.
What is amazing to me is that the Governor of NC got involved in a college sports issue and tried to intimidate the NCAA into reversing the call. Sometimes that has a way of backfiring because it puts the NCAA in a tight spot. Will they bow to overt political pressure or not? If they do, then what kind of message does that send? Will it become common for state Governors to negotiate for other players at other schools. If the NCAA bows to this, it is a dangerous precedent.
 

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What is amazing to me is that the Governor of NC got involved in a college sports issue and tried to intimidate the NCAA into reversing the call. Sometimes that has a way of backfiring because it puts the NCAA in a tight spot. Will they bow to overt political pressure or not? If they do, then what kind of message does that send? Will it become common for state Governors to negotiate for other players at other schools. If the NCAA bows to this, it is a dangerous precedent.
Agree, and if they bow to NC governor they also have to bow to FL as well. Enforcement is not a strength of the NCAA.
 
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NCAA Under Fire After Denying Two Immediate Eligibility Waivers for Football Transfers (msn.com)
"The NCAA says that they're students, and that means that they should be treated like every other student, and they should have the ability to transfer when they want," Isenberg said.

They can transfer - they just can't play!

Whole lot of whining going on - they must be holding back on bringing out the momma's interview in various forms of sympathy garb as a last resort1
100000% If his Grandmother is so incremental to his mental health, why didn't he transfer to UNC Charlotte... Where she lives? Why does he have to play football? Seems like having cake and eating it too. Do you want to play football or be close to Grandmother?

I was a regular student at USC. My grandmother passed away the 2nd week of my senior semester. I had 5 classes at the time. At the end of the year, one of my classes required me to do extra credit work to bump myself back to an A from a B because I had missed too many classes, even though, 2 of the classes I had missed were to be with my Granny the day she passed and the 2nd was the day of her funeral. I missed 3 total classes.... I'm sure the NCAA/Governors/Senators etc would have helped me if I had filed an appeal. Guess what, I accepted that you don't get excuses for personal hardships. I didn't file an appeal. I did what was asked of me, as it could have happened to anyone else. I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Crying because you don't get what you want is an actual excuse in today's sorry excuse for society.
 
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Exclusive footage of the NCAA reviewing an eligibility waiver request for a USC player:

 

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100000% If his Grandmother is so incremental to his mental health, why didn't he transfer to UNC Charlotte... Where he lives? Why does he have to play football? Seems like having cake and eating it too. Do you want to play football or be close to Grandmother?

I was a regular student at USC. My grandmother passed away the 2nd week of my senior semester. I had 5 classes at the time. At the end of the year, one of my classes required me to do extra credit work to bump myself back to an A from a B because I had missed too many classes, even though, 2 of the classes I had missed were to be with my Granny the day she passed and the 2nd was the day of her funeral. I missed 3 total classes.... I'm sure the NCAA/Governors/Senators etc would have helped me if I had filed an appeal. Guess what, I accepted that you don't get excuses for personal hardships. I didn't file an appeal. I did what was asked of me, as it could have happened to anyone else. I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Crying because you don't get what you want is an actual excuse in today's sorry excuse for society.

Indeed, it would seem playing football is immaterial to his mental health. He transferred to UNC to be closer to his grandma. Objective accomplished. Of course, they spin the "my sick grandma wants to see me play" narrative. How sick is she really if she can come sit through a 3+ hour football game?
 
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My take, if he plays then so be it, but don't let this be the persecution complex "everyone hate us" or "this is the reason why we lost"
If we can't compensate for 1 offensive player then we have much bigger problems.

I mostly agree. One transfer WR playing or not playing for UNC should not be the deciding factor in this game.

I do not have a persecution complex, but I'm mostly hung up on the inequitable nature of NCAA regulation and how it will probably come into play here. For now, it seems the NCAA is on the side of fairness. I have no doubts, though, as you mentioned above that he will eventually be ruled eligible. In that case, I will be upset b/c I have zero doubts the NCAA would pay zero attention to us if we were in a similar situation with a player. NCAA has always softened regulations for the more prominent programs (most notably, of course, with UNC).
 
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My take, if he plays then so be it, but don't let this be the persecution complex "everyone hate us" or "this is the reason why we lost"
If we can't compensate for 1 offensive player then we have much bigger problems.
I agree with this. We should be able to win this game with or without him. This kid isn't Jerry Rice. He just happens to be the best WR for a Charmin soft program that folds like a cheap tent whenever they play a team with a pulse.
 

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I mostly agree. One transfer WR playing or not playing for UNC should not be the deciding factor in this game.

I do not have a persecution complex, but I'm mostly hung up on the inequitable nature of NCAA regulation and how it will probably come into play here. For now, it seems the NCAA is on the side of fairness. I have no doubts, though, as you mentioned above that he will eventually be ruled eligible. In that case, I will be upset b/c I have zero doubts the NCAA would pay zero attention to us if we were in a similar situation with a player. NCAA has always softened regulations for the more prominent programs (most notably, of course, with UNC).
Exactly.
No rules - no discussion (unless something obvious needs a rule for the sanctity of the game).
Rules not enforced or unequally enforced - lots of discussion!
NCAA can fix this by growing a pair, but do they want to?
 
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Exactly.
No rules - no discussion (unless something obvious needs a rule for the sanctity of the game).
Rules not enforced or unequally enforced - lots of discussion!
NCAA can fix this by growing a pair, but do they want to?

It would be nice for once if the NCAA just staked out a position that the rule is the rule.

When you're dealing with thousands of players, every transfer is gonna have a sob story about why their situation is unique.
 

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It would be nice for once if the NCAA just staked out a position that the rule is the rule.

When you're dealing with thousands of players, every transfer is gonna have a sob story about why their situation is unique.
No exceptions. I hear that phrase all the time from people with rules!
 

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UNC has a record of avoiding NCAA penalties. Based on their record, they get treated different from every other school and will get their way again. NC governor Roy Cooper had no business writing the letter to the NCAA. He has a heck of lot important duties as governor than to get involved with an NCAA ruling.
Roy Cooper is a POS for sale to the highest leftist/liberal bidder.
 
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Fairness aside, even though it would be totally unwarranted, I guess we need to hope Walker plays. If he doesn't play and we win the game, every article written about the game with have the caveat "South Carolina defeated a short-handed UNC team, who was without their expected leading receiver due to a baffling eligibility issue. The outcome may have looked quite different had UNC been able put the dynamic receiver on the field."
 

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Fairness aside, even though it would be totally unwarranted, I guess we need to hope Walker plays. If he doesn't play and we win the game, every article written about the game with have the caveat "South Carolina defeated a short-handed UNC team, who was without their expected leading receiver due to a baffling eligibility issue. The outcome may have looked quite different had UNC been able put the dynamic receiver on the field."
Who cars about what the others say hahah

a win is a win, doesn't matter who plays. Football is not all about who has the best players, it is also about who has the most depth.
 

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Fairness aside, even though it would be totally unwarranted, I guess we need to hope Walker plays. If he doesn't play and we win the game, every article written about the game with have the caveat "South Carolina defeated a short-handed UNC team, who was without their expected leading receiver due to a baffling eligibility issue. The outcome may have looked quite different had UNC been able put the dynamic receiver on the field."
If he plays, and NC wins, shouldn't the narrative turn and then be - "NC wins using player who should have been declared ineligible!"
 

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ETSU and North Carolina A&T are FCS. Further, the kids was a Gray-shirt offer at ETSU. He was like Tyreek Johnson. He was offered to enroll the next year. You going to count a transfer for a kid when he wasn't even in school, but CJ Daniels can transfer and his lose his starting QB position from a school in every Power 5 Conference. Make it make sense.
CJ Daniels is the perfect example of why the rules needed to change. Any time there’s a change, you’re going to have those who are caught up in the cutoff. Only alternative is to make no changes at all ever.
 

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How does a team with arguably the 2nd highest ranked Division 1 QB not have a stable of good receivers? Why is UNC so dependent on a transfer to be a top 25 team? My guess is that they have some really good receivers but without a lot of experience and the lack of Walker (assuming he doesn't play) could be a trap for us.

I remember 2019 when UNC had a freshman QB and we may have taken him too lightly and got burned. That was the beginning of the end for Muschamp. UNC now has a freshman WR named Chris Culliver who had offers from Michigan, Ohio State, Tenn, Fl St. and South Carolina. Plus they have some pretty good returning WRs and a transfer from Ga Tech who was productive.

This receiving group will be good w/o Walker. We can't take anything for granted.
 

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How does a team with arguably the 2nd highest ranked Division 1 QB not have a stable of good receivers? Why is UNC so dependent on a transfer to be a top 25 team? My guess is that they have some really good receivers but without a lot of experience and the lack of Walker (assuming he doesn't play) could be a trap for us.

I remember 2019 when UNC had a freshman QB and we may have taken him too lightly and got burned. That was the beginning of the end for Muschamp. UNC now has a freshman WR named Chris Culliver who had offers from Michigan, Ohio State, Tenn, Fl St. and South Carolina. Plus they have some pretty good returning WRs and a transfer from Ga Tech who was productive.

This receiving group will be good w/o Walker. We can't take anything for granted.
I agree 100%
 

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How does a team with arguably the 2nd highest ranked Division 1 QB not have a stable of good receivers? Why is UNC so dependent on a transfer to be a top 25 team? My guess is that they have some really good receivers but without a lot of experience and the lack of Walker (assuming he doesn't play) could be a trap for us.

I remember 2019 when UNC had a freshman QB and we may have taken him too lightly and got burned. That was the beginning of the end for Muschamp. UNC now has a freshman WR named Chris Culliver who had offers from Michigan, Ohio State, Tenn, Fl St. and South Carolina. Plus they have some pretty good returning WRs and a transfer from Ga Tech who was productive.

This receiving group will be good w/o Walker. We can't take anything for granted.
Respectfully, we’re going to boat race the F out of the heelz.
 
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Respectfully, we’re going to boat race the F out of the heelz.
I have a friend who is a mega-die hard Clemson fan and he's confident we will beat the Heels by 28. I suspect there's a bit of gamesmanship going on there, but he doesn't think UNC will make a game out of it.

How does a team with arguably the 2nd highest ranked Division 1 QB not have a stable of good receivers? Why is UNC so dependent on a transfer to be a top 25 team? My guess is that they have some really good receivers but without a lot of experience and the lack of Walker (assuming he doesn't play) could be a trap for us.

I remember 2019 when UNC had a freshman QB and we may have taken him too lightly and got burned. That was the beginning of the end for Muschamp. UNC now has a freshman WR named Chris Culliver who had offers from Michigan, Ohio State, Tenn, Fl St. and South Carolina. Plus they have some pretty good returning WRs and a transfer from Ga Tech who was productive.

This receiving group will be good w/o Walker. We can't take anything for granted.

I've also found it odd that they are so dependent on a Kent transfer to play. He is touted as their best receiver, though he hasn't played a down for them. As far as football is concerned, I don't care if he plays or not. Their offense is going to score points so we have to be ready.
 

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I wonder when the NCAA will grant his waiver. They seem to be waiting for maximum dramatic impact.